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No guarantee of victory even if the TD call stands. Nobody would feel totally secure even if they made the subsequent two-point conversion and took a three-point lead with 2:30 to go and Aaron Rodgers leading the opposing offense.
The Steelers were the better team. At no point were the Ravens in control.

But somebody has to explain to me how a receiver can make a catch, take two steps (maybe three steps) in the end zone and not be credited with a touchdown. I'm sure the phrase "football move" will be invoked. But if you're in the end zone in this situation, why is there a need for a football move any more than there is a need for a lacrosse move?
Did anybody hear what Gene Steratore said? Did he agree with the overturn?
Calvin Johnson wonders too. I have never understood why this was an incomplete pass when if he was a running back he could fumble the ball and it’s still a touchdown if he crosses the goal line first

 
With 40 seconds left in the first half, with the Pack at midfield … the Bears let someone run wide open deep for an easy TD. Green Bay up 14-3.

I’ve seen this movie before …
 
Here's the rule. Apparently Likely failed to complete the "additional step" referenced below. I still question why that should be required in the end zone.
Let's say a guy catches the ball with two feet in the end zone and, without moving either foot, spikes the ball. Nobody would rule that an incomplete pass.

ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS. A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is
complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
(c) after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, clearly performs any act common to the game (e.g., extend the ball forward, take an
additional step, tuck the ball away and turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long
enough to do so.
 
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Thoughts and prayers if you had Denver (-7.5)
Did you see the ending?
Broncos up 10
Denver commits a stupid delay of game.
5 seconds left
Raiders kick fg
24-17 final
 
Here's the rule. Apparently Likely failed to complete the "additional step" referenced below. I still question why that should be required in the end zone.
Let's say a guy catches the ball with two feet in the end zone and, without moving either foot, spikes the ball. Nobody would rule that an incomplete pass.

ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS. A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is
complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
(c) after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, clearly performs any act common to the game (e.g., extend the ball forward, take an
additional step, tuck the ball away and turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long
enough to do so.
Player was controlling the ball to spike the ball.

Jesse James caught that ball and Troy picked off Manning.

****ty rule, but they have to have something in place to determine the bobbling catch that is dropped.
 
Not sure I've ever felt confident after a Bears loss. Especially to the Packers. But the Bears showed in the second half that they can't be taken for granted.

Johnson might have gotten a little too cute on that last play. Ultimately, if the Bears had any pass rush, they probably win that game.
 
Player was controlling the ball to spike the ball.

Jesse James caught that ball and Troy picked off Manning.

****ty rule, but they have to have something in place to determine the bobbling catch that is dropped.
Likely has two feet down in the end zone and is clearly in firm control through the second step. Same is true of the spiker in the example.
Likely takes the second step and begins to extend his arms while taking the third step. Doesn't the extension of the ball count as the act common to the game that satisfies the requirements?
 
Thoughts and prayers if you had Denver (-7.5)
Did you see the ending?
Broncos up 10
Denver commits a stupid delay of game.
5 seconds left
Raiders kick fg
24-17 final

Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm."

There was no need for the Raiders to kick the field goal there.

Unless ...
 
Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm."

There was no need for the Raiders to kick the field goal there.

Unless ...
I keep telling myself “Self……there’s no way Vegas can be that good…..”
 
Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm."

There was no need for the Raiders to kick the field goal there.

Unless ...
They thought a 46-yard field goal could be completed in < 5 seconds, which would allow for an onside kick that they could recover and run in for a TD.
Or not.
 
Would love @MileHigh to weigh in on the Ravens-Steelers calls.
1) Likely's TD/no catch
2) The apparent confluence of two fundamental rules in the Rodgers catch of his own deflected pass: down by contact; and completion of a catch.
 
They thought a 46-yard field goal could be completed in < 5 seconds, which would allow for an onside kick that they could recover and run in for a TD.
Or not.
Well the kicking team can't advance a recovered onside kick, so there's that.

Or Pete's buddies had the Raiders plus 7.5. More likely.
 
Would love @MileHigh to weigh in on the Ravens-Steelers calls.
1) Likely's TD/no catch
2) The apparent confluence of two fundamental rules in the Rodgers catch of his own deflected pass: down by contact; and completion of a catch.
It’s a weird rule. Why can a ball carrier for a split second take it over the goal line or a receiver sideline catch it instantly with two feet down be touchdowns, but a receiver needs a stride and a half in that situation? I don’t know.

Would two hands and two feet down mean more fumbled catches after hits?

They’ve had this ruling for a couple decades and they don’t seem like they want to change it.
 

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