Week 10 NFL thread

[NDJournalist]

It's Week 10 in the NFL.

The marquee game this week is Carolina at San Francisco.

Others include a Lions-Bears showdown in a matchup of what could be the top two teams in the NFC North now that Rodgers is hurt, Broncos vs. Chargers and Cowboys vs. Saints.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Sonner ...

Bob Condotta
‏@bcondotta
Pete Carroll says not counting on Percy Harvin playing this week.

Granted, Bob Condotta works for the Seattle Times and not the Christian Science Monitor, but this is concerning to me as regards Harvin's Week 7 availability.

 

[JackReacher]

But has he indicated anything recently via Twitter? I don't follow him anymore.

 

[Captain_Kirk]

Looking forward to the Monday night game from a train wreck sort of perspective. Just too bad they can't invite the Jaguars and make it an all Florida cage match.

And the once 0-6 Giants could find themselves a game and a half out of first in the NFC East with home games coming up against the Aaron-less Packers and then the division leading Cowboys.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Not sure if it made it to the other thread, but Aaron Rodgers is out for at least three weeks, according to Schefter...

 

[IllMil]

You can fork GB. At least three weeks means 5-6. If he came back after that it would be on a short week at Detroit which seems doubtful. They're probably 5-7 by the time he's able to play again. They were something of a skeleton crew with him, but suddenly they're the Jaguars.

 

[amraeder]

You can fork GB. At least three weeks means 5-6. If he came back after that it would be on a short week at Detroit which seems doubtful. They're probably 5-7 by the time he's able to play again. They were something of a skeleton crew with him, but suddenly they're the Jaguars.

Giants and Vikings are still winnable games, even without Rodgers. Not guaranteed, but I've got to imagine with a week of work, Wallace is much better than hew as yesterday. I'm not willing to call them the Jags quite yet. (Here's where losing Cobb really hurts. The wrinkles he can add to your offense by lining up anywhere - wrinkles they don't really need with Rodgers slinging it - would come in handy with Wallace in.)

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Yeah, I don't think the Packers are done... They can definitely win at least one of the next three and they're all winnable. I'm not saying I would predict that they will win at Detroit on Thanksgiving, but it's definitely possible.

I picked the Bears to win the North before the season. If Cutler plays this weekend and they beat Detroit, that would seem to be very possible.

 

[IllMil]

I really question what's in the water in GB. The training staff/philosophy needs to be examined. Rodgers was a textbook shoulder injury, but it seems like it's a yearly thing now where they are just decimated by injuries. The frequency of them sure seems beyond coincidence.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

PFT has thrown out Vince Young and (gasp) Tebow as possible replacements for Rodgers.

It will never happen, but you have to love the Favre rumors.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I really question what's in the water in GB. The training staff/philosophy needs to be examined. Rodgers was a textbook shoulder injury, but it seems like it's a yearly thing now where they are just decimated by injuries. The frequency of them sure seems beyond coincidence.

Eh, teams have years where they get unlucky. It just happens that this year, the Packers and Falcons, two of the favorites to at least make the playoffs, have been hit really hard by injuries. To the Packers' credit, they're still in the mix despite it, but losing Rodgers for any period of time will be tough...

 

[IllMil]

They should get Tebow if they want their best chance at Jadeveon Clowney.

 

[IllMil]

I really question what's in the water in GB. The training staff/philosophy needs to be examined. Rodgers was a textbook shoulder injury, but it seems like it's a yearly thing now where they are just decimated by injuries. The frequency of them sure seems beyond coincidence.

Eh, teams have years where they get unlucky. It just happens that this year, the Packers and Falcons, two of the favorites to at least make the playoffs, have been hit really hard by injuries. To the Packers' credit, they're still in the mix despite it, but losing Rodgers for any period of time will be tough...

Right, but it's happened to the Packers for four years.

 

[LongTimeListener]

I really question what's in the water in GB. The training staff/philosophy needs to be examined. Rodgers was a textbook shoulder injury, but it seems like it's a yearly thing now where they are just decimated by injuries. The frequency of them sure seems beyond coincidence.

Do they have more injuries than other teams? I'd be surprised if they do. The list might be long, but the list is long for every team.

But, when your best defensive player is the #1 candidate in the "Bet on one guy who is absolutely positively juicing" competition, you're going to have to live with some hammy pulls and other stuff. Not that the broken thumb would be related to that, but when you're going through their laundry list of injuries and he's always on it, there's probably a reason for that. Couple other guys have gotten much larger since college too, in a way that human males aren't really able to do.

 

[IllMil]

Then they need to hire a trainer who's got better steroids.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I really question what's in the water in GB. The training staff/philosophy needs to be examined. Rodgers was a textbook shoulder injury, but it seems like it's a yearly thing now where they are just decimated by injuries. The frequency of them sure seems beyond coincidence.

Do they have more injuries than other teams? I'd be surprised if they do. The list might be long, but the list is long for every team.

But, when your best defensive player is the #1 candidate in the "Bet on one guy who is absolutely positively juicing" competition, you're going to have to live with some hammy pulls and other stuff. Not that the broken thumb would be related to that, but when you're going through their laundry list of injuries and he's always on it, there's probably a reason for that. Couple other guys have gotten much larger since college too, in a way that human males aren't really able to do.

Yeah, Matthews is textbook in what to look for in someone who is juicing. All the hammy pulls don't help... The Packers were hit hard by injuries a couple years ago and still won the Super Bowl.

The whole league has been hit hard by injuries. Obviously, when you lose one of the best players in the league, it's going to draw attention to that team.

 

[Morris816]

Regarding the injury front, it always boils down to the importance of the injured player to the team and your depth. The Patriots have lost several key players (Wilfork, Mayo, Vollmer) but have enough depth to compensate — so long as they don't lose Tom Brady.

The Pats may have been fine without Brady a few years ago but they didn't have other significant injuries, so somebody like Matt Cassel was able to have some success.

As for the Packers, I think they'll be either 1-2 or 2-1 in this next three-game stretch, but I doubt Rodgers returns for the Thanksgiving matchup with Detroit, so assuming the Lions avoid any significant injuries, the Lions probably win that one.

But as someone suggested in another thread, the Pack could always contact Matt Flynn.

 

[heyabbott]

I really question what's in the water in GB. The training staff/philosophy needs to be examined. Rodgers was a textbook shoulder injury, but it seems like it's a yearly thing now where they are just decimated by injuries. The frequency of them sure seems beyond coincidence.

What could the training staff have done to prevent Rodgers' injury? He was slammed, legally, on his side and the first thing that hit the ground was his shoulder.

The turf is natural on top of synthetic base, you can't blame the turf for being so hard and unyielding that it contributed to the injury. Though artificial turf, anecdotally, is worse for ACL and some other leg injuries.

 

[heyabbott]

How much fun would the NFL be if they played on a CFL field? Given the speed, agility and strength of todays players, spreading the game out a bit may reduce injuries.

 

[amraeder]

I really question what's in the water in GB. The training staff/philosophy needs to be examined. Rodgers was a textbook shoulder injury, but it seems like it's a yearly thing now where they are just decimated by injuries. The frequency of them sure seems beyond coincidence.

What could the training staff have done to prevent Rodgers' injury? He was slammed, legally, on his side and the first thing that hit the ground was his shoulder.

The turf is natural on top of synthetic base, you can't blame the turf for being so hard and unyielding that it contributed to the injury. Though artificial turf, anecdotally, is worse for ACL and some other leg injuries.

I believe his post was agreeing with you there - that Rodgers was happening no matter what, but that there's been a ton of other injuries over the past three years that made him question the training staff.