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The chances of the Bengals' offensive line giving Burrow enough time to throw deep more than once a month are not good. His goal for this year should be to do whatever it takes to stay out of the orthopedist's office.
 
In both his games Burrow average less than 10 yards a completion. I know Burrow is operating with a bad offensive line and poor receivers (A.J. Green is currently of shell of what he had been). But I think we need to see if Burrow has the ability to drive the ball to his wide receivers down field before we can determine if he will be a top flight NFL quarterback.
Did you watch him at LSU?
 
Did you watch him at LSU?

Was that a function of playing on a truly superior team where he had lots of time and superior receivers. Or was he basically another Mark Sanchez? Why was he unable to beat out Haskins and then mediocre at LSU his junior year?
 
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All I see is a guy running for his life and checking down to the TE.

He could be excellent. I can't tell from last night.
 
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But Burrow got the backdoor cover for my Miami Heat/Bengals 2 team parlay.
 
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Was that a function of playing on a truly superior team where he had lots of time and superior receivers. Or was he basically another Mark Sanchez? Why was he unable to beat out Haskins and then mediocre at LSU his junior year?

Take a look at what Mark Sanchez did his final season at USC. Then look at what Burrow did last year. See the difference?
 
Take a look at what Mark Sanchez did his final season at USC. Then look at what Burrow did last year. See the difference?

Burrow had a record breaking season.

But why was Burrow unable to start at Ohio State? Do you believe Dwayne Haskins is extraordinarily talented? And why was Burrow mediocre at LSU his junior year?

I watched almost all his 61 throws (I watched the end of the NBA game and missed a few). But in the 61 passes he threw did he ever throw a pass that you looked at and said "My God, what a talent". If I had watched Mahomes, Marino or Rogers throw 61 passes I think I would have probably seen glimmers of great talent even if they played on bad teams. I did not think I saw that last night.
 
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Burrow had a record breaking season.

But why was Burrow unable to start at Ohio State? And why was he mediocre at LSU his junior year?

I watched almost all his 61 throws (I watched the end of the NBA game and missed a few). But in the 61 passes he threw did he ever throw a pass that you looked at and said "My God, what a talent". If I had watched Mahomes, Marino or Rogers throw 61 passes I think I would have probably seen glimmers of great talent even if they played on bad teams. I did not think I saw that last night.

I don't know how much we can really learn from last night, though I saw a few really impressive throws in the part of the game I watched. I'm questioning the Sanchez comparison. Burrow was so much better in his final year of college football than Sanchez that it isn't even funny.

I don't know that what happened at Ohio State means much. Sometimes the light just doesn't go on at first. Joe Flacco ended up at Delaware be cause he couldn't beat out Tyler Palko at Pitt. He ended up a decent starting quarterback in the NFL for 10 years, including a very good season for a Super Bowl championship team. Sure, being in the right system and having great talent around him was a big part of Burrow's senior year, but he still had to make the plays and he did it at an unprecedented level.
 
Joe Burrows is one of the most poised field leaders - aka a winner - to come into the NFL in years.
He’ll be on par with Mahomes in terms of being the QB you want on your team by Year Four.
 
Do GB fans still own the rights to FireMikeMcCarthy.com? I assume they would transfer it for $1?
 
Burrow had a record breaking season.

But why was Burrow unable to start at Ohio State? Do you believe Dwayne Haskins is extraordinarily talented? And why was Burrow mediocre at LSU his junior year?

I watched almost all his 61 throws (I watched the end of the NBA game and missed a few). But in the 61 passes he threw did he ever throw a pass that you looked at and said "My God, what a talent". If I had watched Mahomes, Marino or Rogers throw 61 passes I think I would have probably seen glimmers of great talent even if they played on bad teams. I did not think I saw that last night.

Haskins didn't exactly suck at Ohio State. He was a Heisman Trophy finalist who threw for 4,800 yards and 50 touchdowns his last year there. I don't know how good an NFL quarterback he'll turn out to be, but he was outstanding in college.

Similarly, Burrow was better than mediocre his junior year at LSU. He threw for almost 3,000 yards, had a 16-5 TD to INT ratio, and ran for seven TDs. The team won nine games -- it should have been 10 if they hadn't gotten royally ****ed at Texas A&M -- and played in a New Year's Six bowl. He just made such a quantum leap from 2018 to 2019 that it made it look like he was more average than he was in 2018.
It also helped that, sometime around February 2019, for the first time in 20 years LSU discovered that the forward pass is legal.

I think what Burrow really has is a mix of very capable talent and every positive intangible in the book. It's clichéd, but you see it right away when you watch him for a few games. He's tough. He doesn't panic. He has good pocket presence and knows when to run and when to scramble to buy time. He keeps his eyes downfield and can spot a play developing. He doesn't make a ton of mistakes, which is a huge part of playing QB. Give him a line that can protect him to some degree, to where they can run some deeper routes, and he'll be fine.
This was one of his signature plays in 2019, and it's the one I always think of to sum up what he brings to the table. It's a long catch and run by the receiver, off of a pass that wasn't anything special in and of itself. But the way Burrow senses pressure, moves up in the pocket, keeps the play alive, and stands in to finish the play while taking a hit are all very special. A lot of QBs would have taken a sack there. He kept his cool and created one of the biggest plays of LSU's season.

 
Giants RB Saquon Barkley has been carted off with an apparent knee injury.
 
I think Haskins will be a fine quarterback in due time. The Football Team has some nice options around him that weren't there last year. I don't think he'll ever be an all-pro, but he'll be more than serviceable. He already seems to have gotten away from making debilitating mistakes, at least he did in Week 1. That defense is really good and will give him cover to grow and learn this year.
 

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