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Does anyone know what time today it will be released?

Jon Wilner lists the AP's voting guidelines in his blog, excerpted below. Can anyone tell me how you can vote on the preseason poll and adhere to the first one on the list? I realize these guidelines are for the entire season, but doesn't this reveal the folly of a preseason poll? I guess you have to decide who had the best practices the last two weeks?

* Base your vote on performance, not reputation or preseason speculation.

* Avoid regional bias, for or against. Your local team does not deserve any special handling when it comes to your ballot.

* Pay attention to head-to-head results and don’t hesitate to make significant changes in your ballot from week to week.

There’s no rule against jumping the 16th-ranked team over the eighth-ranked team, if No. 16 is coming off a big victory and No. 8 just lost 52-6 to a so-so team.

* Teams on NCAA probation ARE eligible for the AP poll.

Ethical guidelines:

* Voters should have no professional or booster connection to the schools they cover. This could pose a conflict of interest.

* Voters cannot write for team media guides or even independent fan magazines associated with certain schools. This has the potential of compromising a reporter’s objectivity.

* Adhere to APME (AP Managing Editors) and APSE (AP Sports Editors) standards of conduct: We do not accept free tickets, deals, discounts or gifts, etc.

* Please be advised: “Homerism” will be challenged and could lead to dismissal from the poll board.

http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/collegesports/2007/08/15/inside-the-ap-top-25-preseason-poll/



Anyway, I'll be interested to see if the AP poll is similar to the USA Today poll. Maybe Whitlock will show up and grace us with his rankings.
 
Johnny Dangerously said:
* Pay attention to head-to-head results and don’t hesitate to make significant changes in your ballot from week to week.

There’s no rule against jumping the 16th-ranked team over the eighth-ranked team, if No. 16 is coming off a big victory and No. 8 just lost 52-6 to a so-so team.

God, I'd HOPE so!
 
Johnny Dangerously said:
* Please be advised: “Homerism” will be challenged and could lead to dismissal from the poll board.

Has anyone actually been challenged on this point and kicked off the poll board?
 
The Top 25 teams in The Associated Press preseason college football poll, with first-place votes in parentheses, 2006 records, total points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one point for a 25th-place vote, and final ranking:
Record Pts Pvs
1. Southern Cal (62) 11-2 1,622 4
2. LSU (2) 11-2 1,511 3
3. West Virginia (1) 11-2 1,396 10
4. Texas 10-3 1,375 13
5. Michigan 11-2 1,371 8
6. Florida 13-1 1,276 1
7. Wisconsin 12-1 1,192 7
8. Oklahoma 11-3 1,166 11
9. Virginia Tech 10-3 1,148 19
10. Louisville 12-1 1,031 6
11. Ohio St. 12-1 876 2
12. California 10-3 790 14
13. Georgia 9-4 782 23
14. UCLA 7-6 605 _
15. Tennessee 9-4 571 25
16. Rutgers 11-2 560 12
17. Penn St. 9-4 542 _
18. Auburn 11-2 519 9
19. Florida St. 7-6 392 _
20. Nebraska 9-5 377 _
21. Arkansas 10-4 376 15
22. TCU 11-2 283 22
23. Hawaii 11-3 256 _
24. Boise St. 13-0 187 5
25. Texas A&M 9-4 162 _
Others receiving votes: Missouri 128, Georgia Tech 94, Boston College 75, Oregon 73, South Carolina 69, Miami 68, Alabama 66, Oregon St. 42, Wake Forest 40, South Florida 28, Arizona St. 17, BYU 14, Southern Miss. 12, Notre Dame 11, Virginia 7, Clemson 6, Oklahoma St. 3, Texas Tech 2, Houston 1, Kentucky 1, N.C. State 1, Purdue 1.
 
N.C. State got a vote? Is Chuck Amato a college beater now?
 
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dooley_womack1 said:
Cool, Mizzou bubbling just under.

(For Missouri fans, this counts as a victory).

Of course, they've had the preseason hype before.
 
I'm just wondering where Wisconsin gets this much love. I sure didn't see the next Big Ten power last year.
 
dooley_womack1 said:
Cool, Mizzou bubbling just under.

(For Missouri fans, this counts as a victory).

Whenever we're ranked in the preseason, it's usually a bad thing... ;D
 
Johnny Dangerously said:
The Top 25 teams in The Associated Press preseason college football poll, with first-place votes in parentheses, 2006 records, total points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one point for a 25th-place vote, and final ranking:
Record Pts Pvs
1. Southern Cal (62) 11-2 1,622 4
2. LSU (2) 11-2 1,511 3
3. West Virginia (1) 11-2 1,396 10
4. Texas 10-3 1,375 13
5. Michigan 11-2 1,371 8
6. Florida 13-1 1,276 1
7. Wisconsin 12-1 1,192 7
8. Oklahoma 11-3 1,166 11
9. Virginia Tech 10-3 1,148 19
10. Louisville 12-1 1,031 6
11. Ohio St. 12-1 876 2
12. California 10-3 790 14
13. Georgia 9-4 782 23
14. UCLA 7-6 605 _
15. Tennessee 9-4 571 25
16. Rutgers 11-2 560 12
17. Penn St. 9-4 542 _
18. Auburn 11-2 519 9
19. Florida St. 7-6 392 _
20. Nebraska 9-5 377 _
21. Arkansas 10-4 376 15
22. TCU 11-2 283 22
23. Hawaii 11-3 256 _
24. Boise St. 13-0 187 5
25. Texas A&M 9-4 162 _
Others receiving votes: Missouri 128, Georgia Tech 94, Boston College 75, Oregon 73, South Carolina 69, Miami 68, Alabama 66, Oregon St. 42, Wake Forest 40, South Florida 28, Arizona St. 17, BYU 14, Southern Miss. 12, Notre Dame 11, Virginia 7, Clemson 6, Oklahoma St. 3, Texas Tech 2, Houston 1, Kentucky 1, N.C. State 1, Purdue 1.

How did the 'Canes get 68 votes?
 
sportschick said:
Mizzougrad96 said:
I just want to know who voted for Kentucky...

Hey, they're undefeated! :P

I thought Hawaii would be higher.

Hawaii should be higher. And I'd vote for Kentucky before Alabama.

Meanwhile, defending ACC champ Wake Forest returns eight billion starters and only scrapes together 40 votes, while dogass Florida State is busy collecting Notre Dame's usual preseason welfare check.
 
shotglass said:
I'm just wondering where Wisconsin gets this much love. I sure didn't see the next Big Ten power last year.

Defense could be nasty; special teams (specifically kicker and punter) should be outstanding. If they can find a QB, they'll be able to utilize some nice weapons on offense.

Trips to OSU and PSU will be tough (and Illinois could get them, too) but UW could/should win the league.
 
hockeybeat said:
Johnny Dangerously said:
The Top 25 teams in The Associated Press preseason college football poll, with first-place votes in parentheses, 2006 records, total points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one point for a 25th-place vote, and final ranking:
Record Pts Pvs
1. Southern Cal (62) 11-2 1,622 4
2. LSU (2) 11-2 1,511 3
3. West Virginia (1) 11-2 1,396 10
4. Texas 10-3 1,375 13
5. Michigan 11-2 1,371 8
6. Florida 13-1 1,276 1
7. Wisconsin 12-1 1,192 7
8. Oklahoma 11-3 1,166 11
9. Virginia Tech 10-3 1,148 19
10. Louisville 12-1 1,031 6
11. Ohio St. 12-1 876 2
12. California 10-3 790 14
13. Georgia 9-4 782 23
14. UCLA 7-6 605 _
15. Tennessee 9-4 571 25
16. Rutgers 11-2 560 12
17. Penn St. 9-4 542 _
18. Auburn 11-2 519 9
19. Florida St. 7-6 392 _
20. Nebraska 9-5 377 _
21. Arkansas 10-4 376 15
22. TCU 11-2 283 22
23. Hawaii 11-3 256 _
24. Boise St. 13-0 187 5
25. Texas A&M 9-4 162 _
Others receiving votes: Missouri 128, Georgia Tech 94, Boston College 75, Oregon 73, South Carolina 69, Miami 68, Alabama 66, Oregon St. 42, Wake Forest 40, South Florida 28, Arizona St. 17, BYU 14, Southern Miss. 12, Notre Dame 11, Virginia 7, Clemson 6, Oklahoma St. 3, Texas Tech 2, Houston 1, Kentucky 1, N.C. State 1, Purdue 1.

How did the 'Canes get 68 votes?

They didn't. They got 68 points. No way did 68 voters put Miami in their Top 25, mainly because there are only 65 voters.
 
dooley_womack1 said:
Cool, Mizzou bubbling just under.

(For Missouri fans, this counts as a victory).

It shouldn't. Given Mizzou's talent in recent years, and the relative weakness of the Big 12 North, it's a ****ing sham that they haven't done more.

I'll reserve judgment this year until they prove they can win the games they should: Illinois, Ole Miss, Colorado just to name a few. They still can't win on the road, and still lose at least one game a year they shouldn't.
 
No Duke?!

And is there a site that shows who, in fact, is voting in the poll? I remember at one point finding a site that had those names for basketball, but wasn't sure if there was a football list circulated.
 
dixiehack said:
Hawaii should be higher. And I'd vote for Kentucky before Alabama.

Meanwhile, defending ACC champ Wake Forest returns eight billion starters and only scrapes together 40 votes, while dogass Florida State is busy collecting Notre Dame's usual preseason welfare check.

It's the power of addition by subtraction -- no more Jeff Bowden. Plus, Chuck Amato is back in Tallahassee. Yay.
 

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