Worst No. 1 NFL draft picks?

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Do you think Rivals.com got it right with their top 10 worst No. 1 draft picks?

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playthrough said:
Incredibly dumb to include Vick on any draft-bust list.

I dunno. He never lived up to his potential and the dogfighting thing really damaged the Falcons. They were horrible last season, and they may be just as bad for the next couple of years. The Falcons may be worse off than when they drafted Vick. That's a pretty good sign that you were a bust.
 
Bill Brasky said:
playthrough said:
Incredibly dumb to include Vick on any draft-bust list.

I dunno. He never lived up to his potential and the dogfighting thing really damaged the Falcons. They were horrible last season, and they may be just as bad for the next couple of years. The Falcons may be worse off than when they drafted Vick. That's a pretty good sign that you were a bust.

He led them to 2 of their 8 franchise playoff appearances in 40+ years. One of their two NFC conference championships. The Falcons went from having empty seats to a waiting list after he arrived.

He left damage on the franchise. But, they are still better off for having had him on the team.
 
my buddy jeff lageman should not be on any "bust" list. he was a solid player for a pretty long time. 8) 8) 8)
 
AlleyAllen said:
I'm just not sure ... Dog-gate or not ... that Michael Vick should have been on this list.

And Walt Patulski? I'd like to honestly see how many NFL fans under the age of 30 even know who the hell he was.

Good thread Alley - the fact that NFL fans under 30 never heard of him is no reason to leave him off list. A bad pick is a bad pick. I would list Patulski near the top but in the context of 1972 draft overall it was not bad. Not many good players came out that year . ( the best Franco Harris at # 13 by Steelers)

I would have to put Jeff George on list before Vick and I would also have to include John Matuszak drafted by Houston in 1973 . In fact Matuszak might be at top of my list.
 
Boom_70 said:
AlleyAllen said:
I'm just not sure ... Dog-gate or not ... that Michael Vick should have been on this list.

And Walt Patulski? I'd like to honestly see how many NFL fans under the age of 30 even know who the hell he was.

Good thread Alley - the fact that NFL fans under 30 never heard of him is no reason to leave him off list. A bad pick is a bad pick. I would list Patulski near the top but in the context of 1972 draft overall it was not bad. Not many good players came out that year . ( the best Franco Harris at # 13 by Steelers)

I would have to put Jeff George on list before Vick and I would also have to include John Matuszak drafted by Houston in 1973 . In fact Matuszak might be at top of my list.

the fact that folks don't know the name "walt patulski" tells you what a supreme bust he was, no?
 
Go back before the AFL-NFL merger and there are number one busts that make Tim Couch look like John Elway. Terry Baker? How about Randy Duncan by Green Bay in 1958? He was a QB, and they already had Bart Starr and Paul Hornung on the team.
But this is a question with a simple answer. The worst number one of all time was the first one. In 1936, the Eagles (no surprise they qualified for the pick) chose Jay Berwanger of the University of Chicago. Berwanger never played a down. He never signed a contract. He went to medical school so he could make real money.
 
shockey said:
Boom_70 said:
AlleyAllen said:
I'm just not sure ... Dog-gate or not ... that Michael Vick should have been on this list.

And Walt Patulski? I'd like to honestly see how many NFL fans under the age of 30 even know who the hell he was.

Good thread Alley - the fact that NFL fans under 30 never heard of him is no reason to leave him off list. A bad pick is a bad pick. I would list Patulski near the top but in the context of 1972 draft overall it was not bad. Not many good players came out that year . ( the best Franco Harris at # 13 by Steelers)

I would have to put Jeff George on list before Vick and I would also have to include John Matuszak drafted by Houston in 1973 . In fact Matuszak might be at top of my list.

the fact that folks don't know the name "walt patulski" tells you what a supreme bust he was, no?

Not necessarily. Usually, colossal failures get quite a bit of press. Heaven's Gate? Battlefield Earth? George W. Bush?
 
AlleyAllen said:
shockey said:
Boom_70 said:
AlleyAllen said:
I'm just not sure ... Dog-gate or not ... that Michael Vick should have been on this list.

And Walt Patulski? I'd like to honestly see how many NFL fans under the age of 30 even know who the hell he was.

Good thread Alley - the fact that NFL fans under 30 never heard of him is no reason to leave him off list. A bad pick is a bad pick. I would list Patulski near the top but in the context of 1972 draft overall it was not bad. Not many good players came out that year . ( the best Franco Harris at # 13 by Steelers)

I would have to put Jeff George on list before Vick and I would also have to include John Matuszak drafted by Houston in 1973 . In fact Matuszak might be at top of my list.

the fact that folks don't know the name "walt patulski" tells you what a supreme bust he was, no?

Not necessarily. Usually, colossal failures get quite a bit of press. Heaven's Gate? Battlefield Earth? George W. Bush?
Yeah, but this was Buffalo. Now, if he'd played at the other end of the state...
 
Did notice the high percentage of Golden Domers on the list (Ken McAfee anyone?) But mostly I appreciated Rivals going back to the 1970s on this thing, before Kiper, the combine and the endless speculation. And Carter's injury should preclude him from being on the list. Who knows how good (or bad) he would have been healthy.
 
Michael_ Gee said:
Go back before the AFL-NFL merger and there are number one busts that make Tim Couch look like John Elway. Terry Baker? How about Randy Duncan by Green Bay in 1958? He was a QB, and they already had Bart Starr and Paul Hornung on the team.
But this is a question with a simple answer. The worst number one of all time was the first one. In 1936, the Eagles (no surprise they qualified for the pick) chose Jay Berwanger of the University of Chicago. Berwanger never played a down. He never signed a contract. He went to medical school so he could make real money.

And I believe Gerald Ford had an offer to play for the Lions, but he elected to go to law school instead. Mind you, the NFL wasn't looking too solid at that point, what with merged franchises like the Steagles. On a throwback day, I want to see Philly and Pittsburgh wearing Steagles jerseys.

Also, Emtman at No. 1 and Quentin Coryatt at No. 2 is a prime example of why the Colts sucked before Jim Irsay finally convinced his father that, yes, Jim Irsay was a lousy GM and maybe hiring a real one would be a good idea. What, trading two first-round picks for Fredd Young wasn't enough? Talk about your cries for help.
 
The Steagles were a one-year creation of World War II (too many players on active duty to field independent rosters), as was the Card-Pitt merger the following season. "Throwbacks" wouldn't exist -- they wore Eagles jerseys in 1943, Cardinals in '44.
 
Bob Cook said:
And I believe Gerald Ford had an offer to play for the Lions, but he elected to go to law school instead. Mind you, the NFL wasn't looking too solid at that point, what with merged franchises like the Steagles. On a throwback day, I want to see Philly and Pittsburgh wearing Steagles jerseys.

Huh? The Steagles existed for one year (1943). Apparently there was a war going on or something and there was a shortage of young men to play professional football.

The Steagles used the Eagles' jerseys.
 
Bob Cook said:
Also, Emtman at No. 1 and Quentin Coryatt at No. 2 is a prime example of why the Colts sucked before Jim Irsay finally convinced his father that, yes, Jim Irsay was a lousy GM and maybe hiring a real one would be a good idea. What, trading two first-round picks for Fredd Young wasn't enough? Talk about your cries for help.

The extra "D" stands for Defense, you know.

It's not a coincidence that the Colts' fortunes rapidly began to change when Bob Irsay's health began to fail and Jim was able to move into an ownership role and turn the GM job over to Bill Tobin, and later, Bill Polian. Tobin had a few dust-ups with Mel Kiper, but built an AFC finalist largely through free agency and other teams' castoffs. Polian built a championship team through the draft, by largely shunning free agency. The only real draft miss Polian had was picking Rob Morris in the first round, but even he turned into a serviceable player once he was moved to OLB.

Emtman looked like a great choice at the time, but injuries never allowed his career to blossom. The only thing I really remember about his career was his long game-winning INT return at Miami on the last play of the game. He was pretty good when healthy ... that one week.

Coryatt was a bust from the beginning. Big-time bust.

That draft could've set the Colts on a successful run in the 1990s. But instead, it killed them. At least in 1987, when Cornelius Bennett held out, they got Eric Dickerson out of it.
 
In my lifetime the worst 1st round draft pick I have seen was when the Giants took Rocky Thompson.

Someone mentioned Ken Mcavee earlier- another in a long line of ND busts of the 70's . In that time frame ND players failed by the truck load . The NFL loved those big slow white guys with a pedegree before scouting got a lot more sophiscated.
 
Darren McFadden is a guaranteed supertsar!! He's DARREN MCFADDEN!!!!!!" [/E60reporters]

(I just noticed the typo on superstar, but I kind of like "supertsar."

When you talk about supertsars . . . .
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And at 6 feet 7, he had the size all GMs are looking for.
 
Perennially Overrated said:
I have to think Tony Mandarich should be on that list. Sure, he might've improved as a Colt, but the Packers passed on Barry Sanders. Favre and Sanders woulda been pretty solid, IMO.

Ron Wolf was brought in in 1991 to stop the fail that was the Green Bay Packers at the time. If if wasn't for that Mandarich Pick, I don't think they ever get Favre. As a matter of fact, (if the Pack got Sanders) they're probably just like the Lions during that stretch--good, not great, maybe a playoff appearance. Wolf came in and brought in Mike Holmgren and Favre came in 19-92.

And while not #1 overall picks, Akili Smith has to rate right up there with T. Couch.
 
I'm with Piotr. If you suffer a catastrophic career-ending injury, you're not a bust. That has nothing to do with picking poorly or a player not living up to their potential, it's just bad luck.
 
Write-brained said:
Is it Ki-Jana Carter's fault he tore his ACL?

He shouldn't be No. 2.

That's a crime he's on the list. Did he live up to expectations? Of course not, but like WB said it's not his fault he tore up his knee, and his career, on his first carry in his first preseason game.

Carter's game was centered around his speed and doctors simply couldn't put him back together like they might have been able to with today's medical advances. Same with trainers, which I'm sure in Cincy were terrible then just like the rest of the franchise.
 
Boom_70 said:
In my lifetime the worst 1st round draft pick I have seen was when the Giants took Rocky Thompson.

The list for worst first-round pick begins and ends with Russell Erxleben, Saints, 1979 (11th overall). A freakin' punter-place kicker in the first round? Not to mention he was excrement on the field (and as a human being, see jail time for financial misdoings).

Typical East Coast bias. :)
 

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