NFL Week 15

[justgladtobehere]

Thursday
Los Angeles Chargers at Kansas City Chiefs (-3.5, 53.5)


Saturday
Houston Texans at New York Jets (+6, 41.5)

Cleveland Browns at Denver Broncos (-3, 45.5)


Sunday Early
Miami Dolphins at Minnesota Vikings (-7, 44.5)

Oakland Raiders at Cincinnati Bengals (-3, 46)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Baltimore Ravens (-8, 46.5)

Dallas Cowboys at Indianapolis Colts (-3, 47)

Detroit Lions at Buffalo Bills (-2.5, 38.5)

Green Bay Packers at Chicago Bears (-6, 45)

Tennessee Titans at New York Giants (-2.5, 43.5)

Washington Redskins at Jacksonville Jaguars (-7, 36)

Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons (-9, 44)


Sunday Late
New England Patriots at Pittsburgh Steelers (+1.5, 52)

Seattle Seahawks at San Francisco 49ers (+5.5, 44.5)


Sunday Night
Philadelphia Eagles at Los Angeles Rams (-9.5, 53.5)


Monday
New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers (+6, 52)

 

[Cosmo]

Over-under for Skins-Jagoffs is 36. LOL.

 

[poindexter]

Two late afternoon games.
That sucks.

 

[playthrough]

Should the Falcons be laying nine points to anyone? I think Green Bay catching 6 in Chicago is interesting. Also like the Chargers tomorrow night.

Also, for those of you that follow such things, my avatar hero Mr. Musburger is in 41st place in the Westgate Superbook NFL contest. If it ended today, he's in the money. The man is living right.

 

[poindexter]

I like the chargers but the thursday night game for the travel team is brutally hard. Would love to see the numbers ATS.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

If any of you see the Carolina Panthers - rumor is they've been looking for that train that hit them in Pittsburgh - tell them to get back to Charlotte. All they have to do is beat Drew Brees and the Saints twice, and somehow slow down Julio Jones in the week in between. Those two have been the biggest thorns over the years ... and that's when the team was actually in games and paying attention.

 

[swingline]

Let's. Go. Chiefs.

 

[poindexter]

Mason Foster with an oldie but goodie: My cousin was on my instagram account
Washington’s Mason Foster says his cousin posted profane Instagram message

 

[Shropshire Slasher]

Cowboys rookie Leighton Vander Esch has a Christmas package for you.

 

[playthrough]

If the league is serious about protecting players, they’ll start reviewing missed helmet hits like the one on Rivers late.

 

[Chef2]

Kansas City got absolutely ****ed on the last two plays.
You cant call PI on the second to last play, and not call it on the wing on the last play.

 

[DanOregon]

That was a choke. The three and out? The penalties? Not very clutch.

 

[swingline]

Well, that ****ing sucked.

 

[exmediahack]

Not the refs screwing Kansas City -- they were trigger-happy against both teams. (On the 2-point conversion, a pick play is the perfect play to run. If you don't get called, it's usually an easy conversion. If it IS called, just kick the extra point... no loss of down.)

Andy Reid is the mad scientist of this high-powered offense but he still doesn't see the importance of details within game situations.

One little thing. Up 28-21, the Chiefs get the kickoff. How about just taking the ball at the 20 if it's kicked deep? No holding penalty, no risk of a fumble, etc. At this point, you either need a field goal (10-point lead) or three first downs.

Now the big picture on how Reid sees the clock. He hasn't changed.

In the three losses (Patriots, Rams and now the Chargers), it was the other team that held the ball at the critical time. I said that, when it was 28-21 Chiefs and KC had 1st and 10 that I actually would feel better if it were 28-28 with 1:30 left and KC with the ball. That way there is no shell to go into on offense.

Once Benjamin got 29 yards to the KC 10 with 1:11 left... LET HIM SCORE. By tackling him, the Chiefs guaranteed Rivers would control the clock and, essentially, the game.

Play to your strengths. In all the losses (plus, Denver, which should have been a loss if Keenum could hit a receiver), it was the KC defense on the field at the end and not the offense.

 

[Chef2]

Ex is spot on with the pick play.
But you wouldn't have expected that crew to get that call correct in that spot with everything else they missed.

The mystery hold.
The shot to the head on Rivers.
The pi and non-offensive pi the last two plays.
The pick play.

That was not a good look by that crew.

 

[poindexter]

Thay was not a pick play on the 2 point conversion. Blown coverage. Nobody ever decided to cover Williams.

 

[exmediahack]

Ex is spot on with the pick play.
But you wouldn't have expected that crew to get that call correct in that spot with everything else they missed.

The mystery hold.
The shot to the head on Rivers.
The pi and non-offensive pi the last two plays.
The pick play.

That was not a good look by that crew.

It’s weird now. I see way too many PI calls but also way too many grounding calls in general.

But they talk about player safety. No call on the helmet hit on Rivers. The week before, I counted 6 late hits on Mahomes in 4th and OT.

Even more maddening for the Chiefs is they lost like that but were 2-0 on turnovers. Still lost.

 

[Chef2]

Thay was not a pick play on the 2 point conversion. Blown coverage. Nobody ever decided to cover Williams.

Incorrect.

 

[Chef2]

 

[poindexter]

There was no pick. The two DB's stood there like their feet were in concrete. Kelvin Benjamin ran between them. Nobody was guarding Williams regardless. They flat-out missed him. Not one player or coach has said anything about a pick play. Andy Reid pointed out that the Chiefs need to guard somebody on the last play.