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boots said:
buckweaver said:
boots said:
buckweaver said:
boots said:
But there was a time when many considered him to be the best.

Oh, I think that's overstating it a bit. Nobody ever considered him to be the best all-around player in the world.

Best at set plays, sure. Best at putting a ball on a dime from 40 yards out and around a wall, absolutely. But as the Best Player in the World? Not a chance.
Is there ANYONE who is the absolute best? No. But if Beckham wasn't the best, the list in front of him wasn't long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Player_of_the_Year#List_of_male_winners

He was runner-up twice, to Rivaldo in 1999 and Figo in 2001.

The list isn't long, but Becks never would be in consideration for No. 1 either: Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Figo, Henry, Raul, Rivaldo were all more complete players ...

Beckham has one talent that's greater than anyone in the world. He's average, at best, in everything else. As per your statement, there was never "a time when many considered him to be the best."
That's your opinion and like noses, everyone has one. So what is the point you are trying to make here? I said many considered him to be the best. You googled and picked several others. Unless you have polled everyone in the world, and we know that you didn't, you're trying to hard to pick an argument.
Now if you wanted to argue about a current soccer star in his prime willing to play in the United States to promote the sport, you might generate a debate. What you're talking about isn't debateable. It's opinion. Everyone has one.

Why do we have a message board if we can't share opinions?
 
Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:
boots said:
buckweaver said:
boots said:
buckweaver said:
boots said:
But there was a time when many considered him to be the best.

Oh, I think that's overstating it a bit. Nobody ever considered him to be the best all-around player in the world.

Best at set plays, sure. Best at putting a ball on a dime from 40 yards out and around a wall, absolutely. But as the Best Player in the World? Not a chance.
Is there ANYONE who is the absolute best? No. But if Beckham wasn't the best, the list in front of him wasn't long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Player_of_the_Year#List_of_male_winners

He was runner-up twice, to Rivaldo in 1999 and Figo in 2001.

The list isn't long, but Becks never would be in consideration for No. 1 either: Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Figo, Henry, Raul, Rivaldo were all more complete players ...

Beckham has one talent that's greater than anyone in the world. He's average, at best, in everything else. As per your statement, there was never "a time when many considered him to be the best."
That's your opinion and like noses, everyone has one. So what is the point you are trying to make here? I said many considered him to be the best. You googled and picked several others. Unless you have polled everyone in the world, and we know that you didn't, you're trying to hard to pick an argument.
Now if you wanted to argue about a current soccer star in his prime willing to play in the United States to promote the sport, you might generate a debate. What you're talking about isn't debateable. It's opinion. Everyone has one.

Why do we have a message board if we can't share opinions?
If I stopped walking right now, I'm willing to bet that your face would turn brown.
 
boots said:
Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:
boots said:
buckweaver said:
boots said:
buckweaver said:
boots said:
But there was a time when many considered him to be the best.

Oh, I think that's overstating it a bit. Nobody ever considered him to be the best all-around player in the world.

Best at set plays, sure. Best at putting a ball on a dime from 40 yards out and around a wall, absolutely. But as the Best Player in the World? Not a chance.
Is there ANYONE who is the absolute best? No. But if Beckham wasn't the best, the list in front of him wasn't long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Player_of_the_Year#List_of_male_winners

He was runner-up twice, to Rivaldo in 1999 and Figo in 2001.

The list isn't long, but Becks never would be in consideration for No. 1 either: Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Figo, Henry, Raul, Rivaldo were all more complete players ...

Beckham has one talent that's greater than anyone in the world. He's average, at best, in everything else. As per your statement, there was never "a time when many considered him to be the best."
That's your opinion and like noses, everyone has one. So what is the point you are trying to make here? I said many considered him to be the best. You googled and picked several others. Unless you have polled everyone in the world, and we know that you didn't, you're trying to hard to pick an argument.
Now if you wanted to argue about a current soccer star in his prime willing to play in the United States to promote the sport, you might generate a debate. What you're talking about isn't debateable. It's opinion. Everyone has one.

Why do we have a message board if we can't share opinions?
If I stopped walking right now, I'm willing to bet that your face would turn brown.

???
I don't follow? Could you explain?
 
Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:
boots said:
Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:
boots said:
buckweaver said:
boots said:
buckweaver said:
boots said:
But there was a time when many considered him to be the best.

Oh, I think that's overstating it a bit. Nobody ever considered him to be the best all-around player in the world.

Best at set plays, sure. Best at putting a ball on a dime from 40 yards out and around a wall, absolutely. But as the Best Player in the World? Not a chance.
Is there ANYONE who is the absolute best? No. But if Beckham wasn't the best, the list in front of him wasn't long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Player_of_the_Year#List_of_male_winners

He was runner-up twice, to Rivaldo in 1999 and Figo in 2001.

The list isn't long, but Becks never would be in consideration for No. 1 either: Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Figo, Henry, Raul, Rivaldo were all more complete players ...

Beckham has one talent that's greater than anyone in the world. He's average, at best, in everything else. As per your statement, there was never "a time when many considered him to be the best."
That's your opinion and like noses, everyone has one. So what is the point you are trying to make here? I said many considered him to be the best. You googled and picked several others. Unless you have polled everyone in the world, and we know that you didn't, you're trying to hard to pick an argument.
Now if you wanted to argue about a current soccer star in his prime willing to play in the United States to promote the sport, you might generate a debate. What you're talking about isn't debateable. It's opinion. Everyone has one.

Why do we have a message board if we can't share opinions?
If I stopped walking right now, I'm willing to bet that your face would turn brown.

???
I don't follow? Could you explain?
You follow me around so closely that if I stoppped, your face would smash my ass.
 
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boots said:
Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:
boots said:
Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:
boots said:
buckweaver said:
boots said:
buckweaver said:
boots said:
But there was a time when many considered him to be the best.

Oh, I think that's overstating it a bit. Nobody ever considered him to be the best all-around player in the world.

Best at set plays, sure. Best at putting a ball on a dime from 40 yards out and around a wall, absolutely. But as the Best Player in the World? Not a chance.
Is there ANYONE who is the absolute best? No. But if Beckham wasn't the best, the list in front of him wasn't long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Player_of_the_Year#List_of_male_winners

He was runner-up twice, to Rivaldo in 1999 and Figo in 2001.

The list isn't long, but Becks never would be in consideration for No. 1 either: Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Figo, Henry, Raul, Rivaldo were all more complete players ...

Beckham has one talent that's greater than anyone in the world. He's average, at best, in everything else. As per your statement, there was never "a time when many considered him to be the best."
That's your opinion and like noses, everyone has one. So what is the point you are trying to make here? I said many considered him to be the best. You googled and picked several others. Unless you have polled everyone in the world, and we know that you didn't, you're trying to hard to pick an argument.
Now if you wanted to argue about a current soccer star in his prime willing to play in the United States to promote the sport, you might generate a debate. What you're talking about isn't debateable. It's opinion. Everyone has one.

Why do we have a message board if we can't share opinions?
If I stopped walking right now, I'm willing to bet that your face would turn brown.

???
I don't follow? Could you explain?
You follow me around so closely that if I stoppped, your face would smash my ass.

So you're saying you don't wipe your ass? That's just gross.
 
shotglass said:
buckweaver said:
Beckham has one talent that's greater than anyone in the world. He's average, at best, in everything else. As per your statement, there was never "a time when many considered him to be the best."

Nope. Won't even give you that one, buckster.

That's not to say I don't hear it a lot. And then every time I see him play, the man STILL does ... not ... make ... mistakes.

He orchestrates a game when he's in it. An absolute game-changer, to this day.

I don't even know what the English coach was thinking earlier this year.

New English boss Steve McClaran wanted to make a fresh start with the team, naming his own captain to the team as Beckham was seen as one of Ericksson's boys by everyone in England. Then the team had some bad results in Euro qualifying, and Beckham was welcomed back and did a fine job in his first two games back.
 
Yes, great idea: make a fresh start.
You might not make Euro 2008, but at least you've made a fresh start.
Brilliant! as the lads over there might say.
 
Did you catch SJ's own Poindexter jump out of the stands and challenge Beckham.

I'd say this pretty much slams the lid on the Beckham experiment.

 
, "David Beckham is a global sports icon who will transcend the sport of soccer in America." Don Garber MLS Commissioner.

Maybe Dave is trying to ramp up soccer excitement in the U.S. by starting European style soccer riots
 
boots said:
I enjoy futbol, or soccer here in the U.S. I remember when Pele came and invigorated the sport. Beckham is not Pele but it would be nice if he could generate a positive reaction to the sport.
What hurts soccer is that stars such as Pele and Beckham come over here long after their prime. What is needed is for some players in their prime to play and promote the sport in the U.S.

Just because.

I like these old threads just to review the dead warhorses. Angola! in this one, shotglass as well.

yet boots stays alive in 2009.
 
poindexter said:
boots said:
I enjoy futbol, or soccer here in the U.S. I remember when Pele came and invigorated the sport. Beckham is not Pele but it would be nice if he could generate a positive reaction to the sport.
What hurts soccer is that stars such as Pele and Beckham come over here long after their prime. What is needed is for some players in their prime to play and promote the sport in the U.S.

Just because.

I like these old threads just to review the dead warhorses. Angola! in this one, shotglass as well.

yet boots stays alive in 2009.

Take it to PMs and have a happy Soccer Is Dripping Away in the USA Day.
 
Yeah, I mean it wasn't his 60-yard pass that led to the Galaxy's first goal on Sunday, and his exquisite corner kick that led to the second, and he's not still playing at a high-level and for the English National team.

He's completely past his prime. ::)
 

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