RIP Rue McClanahan

[Mizzougrad96]

Wasn't there one member of that cast who was hated by everyone else? I think it was either Rue or Betty White, IIRC.

McClanahan said it was Bea Arthur because Arthur didn't like being part of an ensemble.

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/golden-girl-rue-mcclanahan-dies--1299

According to the E! True Hollywood Story, Arthur was the reason the show didn't continue. I don't think she liked that the other characters were far more popular than hers, even though she was technically the star of the show.

 

[Point of Order]

Not the first time that creative tension helped make a show great. The Andy Griffith Show had one of the great ensemble casts in television history but apparently Aunt Bea hated everyone else on the show and the feeling was mutual towards her in return.

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Not the first time that creative tension helped make a show great. The Andy Griffith Show had one of the great ensemble casts in television history but apparently Aunt Bea hated everyone else on the show and the feeling was mutual towards her in return.

Aunt Bea was a ***** ...

I had forgotten about the Golden Girls spinoff.

 

[dooley_womack1]

Wasn't the show with the Joe Isuzu guy also a spinoff of sorts?

 

[The Big Ragu]

Wasn't the show with the Joe Isuzu guy also a spinoff of sorts?

How much does it have to suck for that guy that a whole generation recognizes him, but they only know him to be "Joe Isuzu"? I couldn't come up with his name if you paid me and denied me a search engine.

 

[Seahawk]

Sadly, I know the name without looking it up.

He is David Leisure, and he played the neighbor Charlie on Empty Nest, which was indeed a Golden Girls spinoff. In one episode, Charlie got a new license plate that read, "Clover"

He thought it would be cool to have a license plate, C lover, as in Charlie lover. But, alas, it read as Clover.

Funny stuff, right there.

This post does not make me feel very cool.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I knew Leisure without looking it up as well...

Don Cheadle actually got his start on the Golden Girls spinoff Golden Palace.

 

[Gutter]

Knew the David Leisure name as well ... also had a great cameo in 10 Things I Hate About You.

 

[D-3 Fan]

Wasn't the show with the Joe Isuzu guy also a spinoff of sorts?

It was David Leisure who was known as Joe Izuzu. He appeared in a few episodes on The Golden Girls, which landed him a spot on "Empty Nest" which followed GG on NBC. Empty Nest starred Richard Mulligan, Dinah Manoff, and Kristy McNichol.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Empty Nest was a solid show.

 

[Double J]

David Leisure. And yeah, "Empty Nest" was a spinoff of "Golden Girls."

 

[westcoastvol]

Not the first time that creative tension helped make a show great. The Andy Griffith Show had one of the great ensemble casts in television history but apparently Aunt Bea hated everyone else on the show and the feeling was mutual towards her in return.

Aunt Bea was a ***** ...

I had forgotten about the Golden Girls spinoff.

Fred and Ethel Mertz (William Frawley and Vivian Vance) absolutely hated each other, too. They had the chance to do their own show after I Love Lucy went off the air and they both declined it.

 

[Guy_Incognito]

Empty Nest was a solid show.

You're kidding, right? I don't think I laughed once, and I probably saw every episode (not proud, just saying).

 

[Double J]

Why would you watch every episode of a sitcom you never, ever found to be funny??

 

[D-3 Fan]

Not the first time that creative tension helped make a show great. The Andy Griffith Show had one of the great ensemble casts in television history but apparently Aunt Bea hated everyone else on the show and the feeling was mutual towards her in return.

Aunt Bea was a ***** ...

I had forgotten about the Golden Girls spinoff.

Fred and Ethel Mertz (William Frawley and Vivian Vance) absolutely hated each other, too. They had the chance to do their own show after I Love Lucy went off the air and they both declined it.

I saw a doc on I Love Lucy a while back. Frawley and Vance didn't like each other, but Frawley was a misogynist in every sense of the word towards Vance. He so much hatred it was uncomfortable.

Being Uncle Bub on My Three Sons was a perfect fit for him, because it was an all-male cast.

 

[Killick]

Knew the David Leisure name as well ... also had a great cameo in 10 Things I Hate About You.

Me, too. Though I always remember him first as Joe Isuzu and second as a dead ringer for Dan Patrick.

 

[Guy_Incognito]

Why would you watch every episode of a sitcom you never, ever found to be funny??

it was on

 

[forever_town]

Fred and Ethel Mertz (William Frawley and Vivian Vance) absolutely hated each other, too. They had the chance to do their own show after I Love Lucy went off the air and they both declined it.

From what I heard, it was Vivian Vance who said no. I think William Frawley was willing to do the show so he could make more money, but Vance didn't need to.

 

[westcoastvol]

Fred and Ethel Mertz (William Frawley and Vivian Vance) absolutely hated each other, too. They had the chance to do their own show after I Love Lucy went off the air and they both declined it.

From what I heard, it was Vivian Vance who said no. I think William Frawley was willing to do the show so he could make more money, but Vance didn't need to.

Frawley was in the John Wayne movie "Fighting Seabees"-a WW2 flick that also featured Jimmie Dodd of Mickey Mouse Club fame. Frawley gets shot outside a bunker and it's one of the worst, most fake deaths you've ever seen.