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Mizzougrad96 said:
The Miami Herald makes it sound like Sparano is gone as well. I wonder if Cowher could wind up there.


Saprano will be gone. I'd be shocked if Cowher chose to go there. Tough division, terrible QB situation. Toro's decision to pass on Matt Ryan will haunt them for a decade.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
I don't think Cowher will go to Dallas. No way will be go somewhere where Jones is the GM.

Carolina doesn't want to pay what it would take to get Cowher.

Houston makes sense and could be choosing between Cowher and Fisher. If the Texans go with Cowher, I wonder where Fisher wi

Apparently Holmgren will target Gruden or Mornhinweg if he fires Mangini.

We've seen the Mornhinweg HC show before.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
 
San Francisco interim coach Jim Tomsula was helping as an assistant coach at the Division II college near my old shop not too long ago. Kinda cool.
 
spnited is correct. if the giants fire coughlin, fox will be their no. 1 choice to replace him. john mara loves him and fox is a defense-oriented, ball-control-styled coach. my theory on eli is that he has been very poorly coached. coughlin/gilbride run an offense that puts too much pressure on the qb to throw way too many high-risk passes. eli is never protected by dink-and-dunk passing, which is often the best way to go. this is a sport where the most important player's success is not just based on his talent but also the system he plays in. we see it all over the league. is there a better example than matt cassel?

my opinion: coughlin is a wonderful coach who is underappreciated by fans because he isn't warm and cuddly and behaves like a raving lunatic on the sideline. head coach's have a finite lifespan in one place and i agree coughlin's time is probably up; the players need a new voice.

i'm not a big perry fewell guy. fox should bring in a defensive coordinator he is more comfy with or run the defense himself for a while. and a new offensive coordinator is a must.
 
According to ESPN, the Niners are going after Harbaugh.

As a lifelong Niners fan, I like the move.
 
spnited said:
Mizzougrad96 said:
You don't think the Giants will grab Cowher?


Cowher wants too much control for the Giants liking.
Fox is a former assistant who the Maras and Tisches like and who they know will work well with Reece.
And there are still very faint whispers that a certain Big Fish wants to come back in an executive position...which would definitely eliminate Cowher.

It's not in the Giants' DNA to hire the likes of Cowher

Now, they MAY . . . but it would take a marked seachange in Giant thinking.

Fox fits their profile, only perfectly.

But this year was a classic case of imagined Giant entitlement which didn't jibe with prevailing league realities.
 
shockey said:
spnited is correct. if the giants fire coughlin, fox will be their no. 1 choice to replace him. john mara loves him and fox is a defense-oriented, ball-control-styled coach. my theory on eli is that he has been very poorly coached. coughlin/gilbride run an offense that puts too much pressure on the qb to throw way too many high-risk passes. eli is never protected by dink-and-dunk passing, which is often the best way to go. this is a sport where the most important player's success is not just based on his talent but also the system he plays in. we see it all over the league. is there a better example than matt cassel?

my opinion: coughlin is a wonderful coach who is underappreciated by fans because he isn't warm and cuddly and behaves like a raving lunatic on the sideline. head coach's have a finite lifespan in one place and i agree coughlin's time is probably up; the players need a new voice.

i'm not a big perry fewell guy. fox should bring in a defensive coordinator he is more comfy with or run the defense himself for a while. and a new offensive coordinator is a must.


my man shockey, with far greater knowledge of the subject than me, nails every point about how things operate in the Meadowlands.
 
I think those of us who watch too much ESPN just assumed that the Giants were dumping Coughlin to hire Cowher because it seems to have been beaten into our heads that that's the job Cowher wants.

I believe spnited and shockey.
 
I thought Coughlin going to NYC was going to be one of the all-time disastrous hires, not because he can't coach, but because it just seemed the wrong place for someone who had all kinds of problems dealing with the media in Jacksonville.

All things considered, he did pretty well.
 
Pancamo said:
Fisher to Dallas?

Will Jerry be happy with 8-9 wins every year?

From what I hear Jerry's wanted him for years. I think the Cardinal loss probably takes Garrett out of the running and moves Fisher to the lead.
 
Boom_70 said:
if Giants do anything Perry Fewell should be fired. Defense has killed the Giants. His blitzing and coverage schemes just do not work.

Until the last couple of weeks, the defense had been excellent under Fewell. Especially compared to last year.
 
shockey said:
spnited is correct. if the giants fire coughlin, fox will be their no. 1 choice to replace him. john mara loves him and fox is a defense-oriented, ball-control-styled coach. my theory on eli is that he has been very poorly coached. coughlin/gilbride run an offense that puts too much pressure on the qb to throw way too many high-risk passes. eli is never protected by dink-and-dunk passing, which is often the best way to go. this is a sport where the most important player's success is not just based on his talent but also the system he plays in. we see it all over the league. is there a better example than matt cassel?

my opinion: coughlin is a wonderful coach who is underappreciated by fans because he isn't warm and cuddly and behaves like a raving lunatic on the sideline. head coach's have a finite lifespan in one place and i agree coughlin's time is probably up; the players need a new voice.

i'm not a big perry fewell guy. fox should bring in a defensive coordinator he is more comfy with or run the defense himself for a while. and a new offensive coordinator is a must.

The only thing that may save Coughlin next week is that the Maras & Tisches may still be snowed in their houses and can't get to the office to fire him.
 
Armchair_QB said:
shockey said:
spnited is correct. if the giants fire coughlin, fox will be their no. 1 choice to replace him. john mara loves him and fox is a defense-oriented, ball-control-styled coach. my theory on eli is that he has been very poorly coached. coughlin/gilbride run an offense that puts too much pressure on the qb to throw way too many high-risk passes. eli is never protected by dink-and-dunk passing, which is often the best way to go. this is a sport where the most important player's success is not just based on his talent but also the system he plays in. we see it all over the league. is there a better example than matt cassel?

my opinion: coughlin is a wonderful coach who is underappreciated by fans because he isn't warm and cuddly and behaves like a raving lunatic on the sideline. head coach's have a finite lifespan in one place and i agree coughlin's time is probably up; the players need a new voice.

i'm not a big perry fewell guy. fox should bring in a defensive coordinator he is more comfy with or run the defense himself for a while. and a new offensive coordinator is a must.

The only thing that may save Coughlin next week is that the Maras & Tisches may still be snowed in their houses and can't get to the office to fire him.
I don't know about the Maras' but I'm pretty sure the Tisches are at one of their warm weather locations
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
According to ESPN, the Niners are going after Harbaugh.

As a lifelong Niners fan, I like the move.

Harbaugh/Gruden seem to be at the top of the list. Either would be fine with me. They definitely need a coach that knows offense, preferably with some history with the WCO.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
According to ESPN, the Niners are going after Harbaugh.

As a lifelong Niners fan, I like the move.

I've heard Gruden's name in the mix, too, as well as Holmgren. San Francisco needs to hire a GM first, though, then find a quarterback. The Dorks will want results now, especially trying to rally support for a stadium in Santa Clara, and will want a big name. Not quite a train wreck, but there's a lot of work to do.
 
If they hire Holmgren as anything other than a GM, my head might explode. I'd prefer Harbaugh, but I could deal with Gruden. Holmgren is a great coach, but I don't want someone who will coach another 2-3 years tops.
 
Harbaugh does not WCO. Power running game combined with vertical passing attack.
 

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