NFL Coaching Carousel 2012-13 running thread...

[JosephC.Myers]

Carolina has to be pretty high on the list given the fact the owner fired the GM for hiring the current coach.

 

[BurnsWhenIPee]

Surprised Whisenhunt isn't on the list. The Super Bowl appearance was nice, but let's be honest - Kurt Warner was a gift. Maybe get a new GM. That offensive line isn't going to fix itself.

As a Cardinals fan from way (too far) back, I agree. Whisenhunt gets a ton of time for being there for the Super Bowl run, and the injuries that have ravaged the team this season give him more of an excuse, but this year's 4-0 start looks like it's going to be 4-7 here in a hurry. If they finish 5-11 or 6-10, it may be tough for him to keep his job.

That defense has a ton of home-grown talent with a lot of potential, and they are doing a good job of locking down their key players. But injuries or no, that offensive line has been a train wreck for years, and whatever they do to try and fix it isn't working. I'd think at the very least, Russ Grimm's future is a cloudy one there.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

Carolina has to be pretty high on the list given the fact the owner fired the GM for hiring the current coach.

Says who?

Yes, Ron Rivera's seat is already warm. But because a new GM is arriving, it might not matter what Rivera does the balance of the season. New GMs tend to want their own people.

 

[Roscablo]

Surprised Whisenhunt isn't on the list. The Super Bowl appearance was nice, but let's be honest - Kurt Warner was a gift. Maybe get a new GM. That offensive line isn't going to fix itself.

As a Cardinals fan from way (too far) back, I agree. Whisenhunt gets a ton of time for being there for the Super Bowl run, and the injuries that have ravaged the team this season give him more of an excuse, but this year's 4-0 start looks like it's going to be 4-7 here in a hurry. If they finish 5-11 or 6-10, it may be tough for him to keep his job.

That defense has a ton of home-grown talent with a lot of potential, and they are doing a good job of locking down their key players. But injuries or no, that offensive line has been a train wreck for years, and whatever they do to try and fix it isn't working. I'd think at the very least, Russ Grimm's future is a cloudy one there.

I wonder if with the Cardinals it is more than just the Super Bowl run. Maybe it's that they have an overall history of suckiness and Whisenhunt has a .500 record with a couple of playoff appearances. It's not like it's the best ownership and maybe they feel for that franchise it's good enough.

 

[sgreenwell]

Surprised Whisenhunt isn't on the list. The Super Bowl appearance was nice, but let's be honest - Kurt Warner was a gift. Maybe get a new GM. That offensive line isn't going to fix itself.

As a Cardinals fan from way (too far) back, I agree. Whisenhunt gets a ton of time for being there for the Super Bowl run, and the injuries that have ravaged the team this season give him more of an excuse, but this year's 4-0 start looks like it's going to be 4-7 here in a hurry. If they finish 5-11 or 6-10, it may be tough for him to keep his job.

That defense has a ton of home-grown talent with a lot of potential, and they are doing a good job of locking down their key players. But injuries or no, that offensive line has been a train wreck for years, and whatever they do to try and fix it isn't working. I'd think at the very least, Russ Grimm's future is a cloudy one there.

Question, since I don't really have any insight on the Cardinals, not being close to the area at all - Who makes the personnel decisions? Meaning, who decided going into the year that because they had Kolb and Skelton, well, they were all set. Kolb has played well, but it's not a shock he got injured, and he wasn't even the starter for some reason at the beginning of the year.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Surprised Whisenhunt isn't on the list. The Super Bowl appearance was nice, but let's be honest - Kurt Warner was a gift. Maybe get a new GM. That offensive line isn't going to fix itself.

As a Cardinals fan from way (too far) back, I agree. Whisenhunt gets a ton of time for being there for the Super Bowl run, and the injuries that have ravaged the team this season give him more of an excuse, but this year's 4-0 start looks like it's going to be 4-7 here in a hurry. If they finish 5-11 or 6-10, it may be tough for him to keep his job.

That defense has a ton of home-grown talent with a lot of potential, and they are doing a good job of locking down their key players. But injuries or no, that offensive line has been a train wreck for years, and whatever they do to try and fix it isn't working. I'd think at the very least, Russ Grimm's future is a cloudy one there.

Question, since I don't really have any insight on the Cardinals, not being close to the area at all - Who makes the personnel decisions? Meaning, who decided going into the year that because they had Kolb and Skelton, well, they were all set. Kolb has played well, but it's not a shock he got injured, and he wasn't even the starter for some reason at the beginning of the year.

Say wha? When?

 

[sgreenwell]

Surprised Whisenhunt isn't on the list. The Super Bowl appearance was nice, but let's be honest - Kurt Warner was a gift. Maybe get a new GM. That offensive line isn't going to fix itself.

As a Cardinals fan from way (too far) back, I agree. Whisenhunt gets a ton of time for being there for the Super Bowl run, and the injuries that have ravaged the team this season give him more of an excuse, but this year's 4-0 start looks like it's going to be 4-7 here in a hurry. If they finish 5-11 or 6-10, it may be tough for him to keep his job.

That defense has a ton of home-grown talent with a lot of potential, and they are doing a good job of locking down their key players. But injuries or no, that offensive line has been a train wreck for years, and whatever they do to try and fix it isn't working. I'd think at the very least, Russ Grimm's future is a cloudy one there.

Question, since I don't really have any insight on the Cardinals, not being close to the area at all - Who makes the personnel decisions? Meaning, who decided going into the year that because they had Kolb and Skelton, well, they were all set. Kolb has played well, but it's not a shock he got injured, and he wasn't even the starter for some reason at the beginning of the year.

Say wha? When?

Well, everything is relative. Eight TDs, three picks - That's great for the Cardinals! He's been Dilfering it, gave them just enough to win, etc.

... Okay, so maybe he still sucks.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

If the Chargers lose tonight, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see out first coaching casualty of the season before Monday.

*IF* I land a date with Molly Sims...

Have you even seen the Chiefs play this year?

I expect the Chargers to win. Then again, I also expected them to manage to find the end zone against the Browns.

 

[LongTimeListener]

The Chargers are going to win by 24. This is the kind of game they always have, just when it looks like things are going to shot they beat up on a patsy. They'll hang around the division race until Week 15 at least.

 

[Mark2010]

You can be 4-8 after 12 weeks and alive in the playoff race, so it's a little early to push the panic button.

 

[JC]

You can be 4-8 after 12 weeks and alive in the playoff race, so it's a little early to push the panic button.

Not in the real world you can't

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Surprised Whisenhunt isn't on the list. The Super Bowl appearance was nice, but let's be honest - Kurt Warner was a gift. Maybe get a new GM. That offensive line isn't going to fix itself.

As a Cardinals fan from way (too far) back, I agree. Whisenhunt gets a ton of time for being there for the Super Bowl run, and the injuries that have ravaged the team this season give him more of an excuse, but this year's 4-0 start looks like it's going to be 4-7 here in a hurry. If they finish 5-11 or 6-10, it may be tough for him to keep his job.

That defense has a ton of home-grown talent with a lot of potential, and they are doing a good job of locking down their key players. But injuries or no, that offensive line has been a train wreck for years, and whatever they do to try and fix it isn't working. I'd think at the very least, Russ Grimm's future is a cloudy one there.

Question, since I don't really have any insight on the Cardinals, not being close to the area at all - Who makes the personnel decisions? Meaning, who decided going into the year that because they had Kolb and Skelton, well, they were all set. Kolb has played well, but it's not a shock he got injured, and he wasn't even the starter for some reason at the beginning of the year.

Say wha? When?

Well, everything is relative. Eight TDs, three picks - That's great for the Cardinals! He's been Dilfering it, gave them just enough to win, etc.

... Okay, so maybe he still sucks.

Kolb was doing fine before he got hurt. It's not that he's an overall ****ty QB; he's an otherwise decent QB who makes crippling mistakes. He cut way back on those mistakes at the start of the season and did fairly well. He can also play well on the move, and with this offensive line he's usually running for his life. He's not great, by any stretch, but if he's healthy and not forcing throws into triple coverage they can win with him.

By comparison, John Skelton is absolutely awful.

I don't see any way Whisenhunt gets run this year. Honestly, after 4 games this team had already exceeded the win total I was expecting this season. The QB situation is shaky at best, the offensive line is terrible and the running backs look like a MASH unit. The defense is solid, but not enough to make up for the offense.

And yes, I would think Russ Grimm should be feeling some heat at this point.

 

[Mark2010]

You can be 4-8 after 12 weeks and alive in the playoff race, so it's a little early to push the panic button.

Not in the real world you can't

But in the NFL you can.

 

[JC]

You can be 4-8 after 12 weeks and alive in the playoff race, so it's a little early to push the panic button.

Not in the real world you can't

But in the NFL you can.

Show me the last 4 and 8 team to make the playoffs. If there has been one, please show me how many

 

[YGBFKM]

You can be 4-8 after 12 weeks and alive in the playoff race, so it's a little early to push the panic button.

Not in the real world you can't

But in the NFL you can.

Show me the last 4 and 8 team to make the playoffs. If there has been one, please show me how many

The Chargers.

 

[FileNotFound]

If I recall correctly, the '96 Jags were 4-7 before making it to the AFC title game.

 

[YGBFKM]

To clarify, the 2008 Chargers started 4-8, won their last four, including a blowout of the Broncos, and won the division.

 

[MileHigh]

To clarify, the 2008 Chargers started 4-8, won their last four, including a blowout of the Broncos, and won the division.

And Mike Shanahan was fired two days later.

If I recall correctly, the '96 Jags were 4-7 before making it to the AFC title game.

!@#$%$

Correct. Including one of the biggest upsets in playoff history, most likely denying the Donkeys three straight Lombardis.

 

[Mark2010]

That's my point. Schedules and injuries are not always equal. Being 4-8 certainly isn't the recommended way to go. But you're still in the conversation and, thus, not likely to throw in the towel and make a coaching change.

 

[JosephC.Myers]

Carolina has to be pretty high on the list given the fact the owner fired the GM for hiring the current coach.

Says who?

Yes, Ron Rivera's seat is already warm. But because a new GM is arriving, it might not matter what Rivera does the balance of the season. New GMs tend to want their own people.

Because the owner has either directly said or implied enough for it to be reported that the reason why the GM was fired was because he hired the current coach. That has a tendency to make a coach's seat rather warm, especially when the team's record isn't good to begin with.