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I would love to be able to take an average guy to a game, give him a laptop and score sheet, then have him do the job under deadline pressure while the wife calls to say your kid's sick and the car is making a thumpa-thumpa noise.

Filming it, of course, to show to every other dickhead fanboy that it's not like they think it is.
 
shotglass said:
I found that White Sox fans' board thread intriguing.

It just amazes me that the typical guy on the street believes he could go to a White Sox game tomorrow and cover it just like the beat writers. And really, that's the way most of them think. They think being a sportswriter requires no skill at all.

I find this outlook to be just mind-boggling. I don't think that I could show up at a steel mill tomorrow and do the job; I don't know how. I don't think I could step into a courtroom and try a case. I don't think I could work at McDonald's without training, for God's sake.

And I won't even get into how they look at it like all sportswriters are fans up there in the press box, supposed to be rooting the home team to another victory.

It just pisses me off. ****a buncha fans.

I'm with you, that was really scary to read. I understand fans always attack the media for any perceived slight of their team, and I've learned to expect no more, but to see how misguided they are about the profession is baffling. I didn't know we were all making six figures and getting to watch the games for free, and then getting paid to write about them after. Or that columnists just watch the games for free and don't work. And that college journalist's input: wow, just wow.
 
Boobie Miles said:
I didn't know we were all making six figures and getting to watch the games for free, and then getting paid to write about them after. Or that columnists just watch the games for free and don't work.
To be fair, the fan might have been referring to a guy we all love around here -- Mariotti. The fan may have a point if you consider that.
 
Yes, the fan on that message board believes that all sportswriters are Mariotti. I agree with you.

Which makes it all the more amazing that we don't believe all carmakers are Lee Iacocca.
 
SixToe said:
I would love to be able to take an average guy to a game, give him a laptop and score sheet, then have him do the job under deadline pressure while the wife calls to say your kid's sick and the car is making a thumpa-thumpa noise.

Filming it, of course, to show to every other dickhead fanboy that it's not like they think it is.

Man I hope I someday run a TV network. Because THAT reality show is getting the green ****ing light.
 
Smasher_Sloan said:
Those are people who have never seen Tommy Lasorda naked, eating spaghetti with his fingers.

OK, I'll take the bait. Did he really do that?
 
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I guess I could be a bit more specific.

"Hey, you in Section 3, Seat 28. Yeah, you. Put down that third ****in' hotdog and get up here. You've got a gamer and some notes to write. Get in the lockeroom now and then up to the press box. Deadline is 9 for the state edition and rewrite whatever you sent by 11:15 for the final.

"No, you can't sit here and watch the game. No, you can't call your wife for writing help. You don't know how to type? I guess your index fingers will be bloody. Get going. Batting practice ends in 20 minutes and you still need to get some notes."
 
shotglass said:
I found that White Sox fans' board thread intriguing.

It just amazes me that the typical guy on the street believes he could go to a White Sox game tomorrow and cover it just like the beat writers. And really, that's the way most of them think. They think being a sportswriter requires no skill at all.

I find this outlook to be just mind-boggling. I don't think that I could show up at a steel mill tomorrow and do the job; I don't know how. I don't think I could step into a courtroom and try a case. I don't think I could work at McDonald's without training, for God's sake.

And I won't even get into how they look at it like all sportswriters are fans up there in the press box, supposed to be rooting the home team to another victory.

It just pisses me off. ****a buncha fans.

C'mon Shottie,

How much training would you really need to forget to put my fries in thae bag at the drive thru?
 
A possible reason for hope would be if the radio folks got involved.

Baseball fans generally love listening to games on radio. And isn't it frustrating when the pxp guy doesn't (or can't) tell you what's going on? If you've never experienced this frustration, just listen to Don Sutton do pxp on radio. ;D

A few choice words from the radio folk along the lines of, "Sorry fans, I can't see the action from where we're sitting..." And I betcha the fans become more sympathetic. Then the club's PR department potentially starts rethinking things.

So hug a local radio broadcaster today. :P
 
Sort of a tangential issue (and not about this specific thread), but if you believe 'we are not the story,' how do you justify the creation of the 'Media Columnist'?

I have so many thoughts on this I can't even sort them into this post, but interested in other perspectives.
 
Lugnuts said:
A possible reason for hope would be if the radio folks got involved.

Baseball fans generally love listening to games on radio. And isn't it frustrating when the pxp guy doesn't (or can't) tell you what's going on? If you've never experienced this frustration, just listen to Don Sutton do pxp on radio. ;D

A few choice words from the radio folk along the lines of, "Sorry fans, I can't see the action from where we're sitting..." And I betcha the fans become more sympathetic. Then the club's PR department potentially starts rethinking things.

So hug a local radio broadcaster today. :P

According to the column the Sox didn't move the radio or TV booths. Just the press box.
 
21 said:
Sort of a tangential issue (and not about this specific thread), but if you believe 'we are not the story,' how do you justify the creation of the 'Media Columnist'?

I have so many thoughts on this I can't even sort them into this post, but interested in other perspectives.

Interesting. I also find it interesting that it's among the first things I read in my paper Sunday morning.
 
21 said:
Sort of a tangential issue (and not about this specific thread), but if you believe 'we are not the story,' how do you justify the creation of the 'Media Columnist'?

I have so many thoughts on this I can't even sort them into this post, but interested in other perspectives.

I'd suggest that there's a difference between debate over who does a good job, who is worth reading/listening to, and an interest in how they go about doing their jobs.
 
Rudy Martzke made quite a name for himself as a media, albeit tv, columnist in USA Today. I always loved the backhanded compliments he received, like this one from the late **** Schaap:

"Rudy Martzke is one of the most influential reporters in America, and the fact that he has reached this prestigious position without displaying taste, judgment or grace in the use of the English language is some tribute to Rudy Martzke."
 
Armchair_QB said:
Lugnuts said:
A possible reason for hope would be if the radio folks got involved.

Baseball fans generally love listening to games on radio. And isn't it frustrating when the pxp guy doesn't (or can't) tell you what's going on? If you've never experienced this frustration, just listen to Don Sutton do pxp on radio. ;D

A few choice words from the radio folk along the lines of, "Sorry fans, I can't see the action from where we're sitting..." And I betcha the fans become more sympathetic. Then the club's PR department potentially starts rethinking things.

So hug a local radio broadcaster today. :P

According to the column the Sox didn't move the radio or TV booths. Just the press box.

Hmmm. Sucks for them, then. Maybe the writers can catch the game on TV or radio. [/ducking]
 
shotglass said:
21 said:
Sort of a tangential issue (and not about this specific thread), but if you believe 'we are not the story,' how do you justify the creation of the 'Media Columnist'?

I have so many thoughts on this I can't even sort them into this post, but interested in other perspectives.

I'd suggest that there's a difference between debate over who does a good job, who is worth reading/listening to, and an interest in how they go about doing their jobs.

I agree with you, to some extent....but:

Newspaper people say 'we are not the story.' Yet every paper now has a media column/report....devoted to radio/TV folk who apparently ARE the story, if they merit a column devoted exclusively to their work. If you treat your local media as 'newsworthy,' then you have very much made them part of the story.

And if newspapers can run columns critiquing/discussing the work of radio/tv people, who do we care if some message board fans (or radio/tv people, for that matter) critique/discuss the work of print people?
 
They can discuss the work of print people all they want. But posting **** like, "They're a bunch of crybabies who complain when they get into the game for free" doesn't have a lot of value.

Nor does Chris L's lame calling Shaughnessy "Chinless Wonder."
 
Smasher_Sloan said:
They can discuss the work of print people all they want. But posting **** like, "They're a bunch of crybabies who complain when they get into the game for free" doesn't have a lot of value.

Nor does Chris L's lame calling Shaughnessy "Chinless Wonder."

No different from print people calling tv people 'vidiots'....etc.

We do, however, agree about Lasorda.
 

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