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Has this been discussed yet?

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-070405greenstein,1,525803.column?coll=cs-home-utility
 
Average fan isn't going to give a ****.
But it is bull****. And isn't going to get better.
 
yeah, but I like how he led with the perspective of an NBA announcer unable to pick out who a foul was called on. so he's leading by demonstrating how this trend does have an affect on fans, even if not directly in baseball ...
 
A tidbit I found interesting at the end of the column is ESPN/ABC is going to use the yellow first-and-10 line during MLS games now to see if players are offsides.
 
Angola! said:
A tidbit I found interesting at the end of the column is ESPN/ABC is going to use the yellow first-and-10 line during MLS games now to see if players are offsides.

They already do that extensively in Europe and I think on Mexican league games. Not a huge leap there.
 
This is where the columnists should chime in.

Say something like: "Wow, that was a great pitch that handcuffed Jeter in the ninth inning, but of course we couldn't tell what kind of pitch that was from the new pressbox down the line."

Say it early and often. Nobody will do anything, probably, but it's a pain in the ass to the club when you remind fans regularly why your job just got harder.
 
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Dan Rydell said:
This is where the columnists should chime in.

Say something like: "Wow, that was a great pitch that handcuffed Jeter in the ninth inning, but of course we couldn't tell what kind of pitch that was from the new pressbox down the line."

Say it early and often. Nobody will do anything, probably, but it's a pain in the ass to the club when you remind fans regularly why your job just got harder.

Like they could tell to begin with. They figured it out by watching TV monitors before.
 
Yeah, that's why they suck also. But that's another thread.
 
slappy4428 said:
Average fan isn't going to give a ****.

Yeah, but Greenstein is the media columnist. So he's doing his job by writing about it.

And as odd as it seems, fans do care about stuff like this. Whenever someone finds out I'm a sports writer, they want to know: 1. Where I sit. 2. What is it like?
 
Sometime in the future, the following post-game scenario will arise:

Beat Writer: Ozzie, what happened on that play in the third that led to you getting tossed?

Ozzie: What the ****? You were here, you saw it! It was a bull**** call!

Beat Writer: No, I didn't see it. The view from the new press box sucks and they won't show replays on the in-house feed.
 
i'd heard st. louis redid its press box because it was so ****ty and baseball threatened to take away the all-star game fter the terrible reviews from teh world series. someone told me the gutted the thing and started over. i haven't been there yet, any reviews?
 
Went to St. Louis as a fan last year and called a friend in the press box to ask him what the **** was up with that joint. He said it was every bit as bad as it appeared.
Glad it was redone.
 
Dan Rydell said:
This is where the columnists should chime in.

Say something like: "Wow, that was a great pitch that handcuffed Jeter in the ninth inning, but of course we couldn't tell what kind of pitch that was from the new pressbox down the line."

Say it early and often. Nobody will do anything, probably, but it's a pain in the ass to the club when you remind fans regularly why your job just got harder.
What job?


That's what 99.44 percent of fans think.
 
Those are people who have never seen Tommy Lasorda naked, eating spaghetti with his fingers.
 
Simon_Cowbell said:
Dan Rydell said:
This is where the columnists should chime in.

Say something like: "Wow, that was a great pitch that handcuffed Jeter in the ninth inning, but of course we couldn't tell what kind of pitch that was from the new pressbox down the line."

Say it early and often. Nobody will do anything, probably, but it's a pain in the ass to the club when you remind fans regularly why your job just got harder.
What job?


That's what 99.44 percent of fans think.

Doesn't make them right.
 
This is a no-win scenario for us and it will get worse when (say it with me) Bud Selig retires. Fans will be quick to either, A) ignore; or B) trash any column where a writer complains about losing the best seat in the house. Clubs won't care because they're making money by selling those seats. You either swallow hard and continue to go to the ballpark, or (for columnists) find something else to write about. That doesn't really work if your team is in the race, though, and fans want to read all about it. Like I said, this is a no-win scenario.
 
Moondoggy said:
This is a no-win scenario for us and it will get worse when (say it with me) Bud Selig retires. Fans will be quick to either, A) ignore; or B) trash any column where a writer complains about losing the best seat in the house. Clubs won't care because they're making money by selling those seats. You either swallow hard and continue to go to the ballpark, or (for columnists) find something else to write about. That doesn't really work if your team is in the race, though, and fans want to read all about it. Like I said, this is a no-win scenario.

Again - Teddy Greenstein is a media columnist. It's not like Rick Morrissey wrote a column about this.

Also, note that when he quoted Phil Arvia, an actual columnist, Arvia's response was to say that he'd do the same thing if he was the team.

BTW, looks like the White Sox fans out there are definitely on board with the media on this one:

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=86015
 
I love it when fans side with the club.

I wouldn't expect them to care about the media ("You get a free pass to the game," like we'd be at a September game between the Royals and Devil Rays if we weren't working), but if they resent that, why don't they resent the club charging them $5 for a Coke? Or a $6 "handling fee" when they order tickets?

They might be annoyed with us, but they're getting ****ed by the franchise.
 
I found that White Sox fans' board thread intriguing.

It just amazes me that the typical guy on the street believes he could go to a White Sox game tomorrow and cover it just like the beat writers. And really, that's the way most of them think. They think being a sportswriter requires no skill at all.

I find this outlook to be just mind-boggling. I don't think that I could show up at a steel mill tomorrow and do the job; I don't know how. I don't think I could step into a courtroom and try a case. I don't think I could work at McDonald's without training, for God's sake.

And I won't even get into how they look at it like all sportswriters are fans up there in the press box, supposed to be rooting the home team to another victory.

It just pisses me off. ****a buncha fans.
 

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