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Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

Good for him, I'm surprised the Phillies only went to $7 million in their offer.
 
Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

GB-Hack said:
Good for him, I'm surprised the Phillies only went to $7 million in their offer.

They only went that low b/c of his service time. Hopefully they'll work out a long-term deal in the near future with him.
 
Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

melock said:
GB-Hack said:
Good for him, I'm surprised the Phillies only went to $7 million in their offer.

They only went that low b/c of his service time. Hopefully they'll work out a long-term deal in the near future with him.

Phillies screwed up on their salary submission, simple as that.

No way Howard should even consider a deal that takes him past arbitration, certainly nothing like the crappy deal Pujols got. Howard should go year by year (going to arbitration, if necessary) then he should go out on the market and get himself a 10-year deal.

This reminds me a little of when Casey Close represented Derek Jeter in his '99 arbitration case with the Yankees.
 
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Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

cranberry said:
melock said:
GB-Hack said:
Good for him, I'm surprised the Phillies only went to $7 million in their offer.

They only went that low b/c of his service time. Hopefully they'll work out a long-term deal in the near future with him.

Phillies screwed up on their salary submission, simple as that.

No way Howard should even consider a deal that takes him past arbitration, certainly nothing like the crappy deal Pujols got. Howard should go year by year (going to arbitration, if necessary) then he should go out on the market and get himself a 10-year deal.

This reminds me a little of when Casey Close represented Derek Jeter in his '99 arbitration case with the Yankees.

I think it was Jayson Stark I heard on the radio yesterday talking about how talks between Howard and the team had not gone well and could get even uglier. Supposedly, he was pissed that they simply renewed his contract last year and he is unhappy about how his service time was set back whille waiting in the minors behind Jim Thome.

I just don't see him signing there long term unless the Phillies offer him above market value.
 
Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

Oggiedoggie said:
dignan said:
Who the **** is Ryan Horward?

I think he directed the movie "Cacoon."

If this Horward dude is getting 10 mil, man, imagine what Ryan Howard is going to get.
 
Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

Howard will be a DH in a matter of years though if the Phillies don't keep him around. They wasted him in the farm system with Thome at first. Not a wise move from the Philadelphia team.
 
Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

GB-Hack said:
Good for him, I'm surprised the Phillies only went to $7 million in their offer.

I'm not. They're the Phillies. They could **** up a one car funeral.
 
Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

Rumpleforeskin said:
Howard will be a DH in a matter of years though if the Phillies don't keep him around. They wasted him in the farm system with Thome at first. Not a wise move from the Philadelphia team.

Why? They get the same amount of years out of him, and they're closer to his prime.
 
Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

Guy_Incognito said:
Rumpleforeskin said:
Howard will be a DH in a matter of years though if the Phillies don't keep him around. They wasted him in the farm system with Thome at first. Not a wise move from the Philadelphia team.

Why? They get the same amount of years out of him, and they're closer to his prime.

Sure. Same with renewing him every year. It's fine as long as they have no intention whatsoever of re-signing him.
 
Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

cranberry said:
Guy_Incognito said:
Rumpleforeskin said:
Howard will be a DH in a matter of years though if the Phillies don't keep him around. They wasted him in the farm system with Thome at first. Not a wise move from the Philadelphia team.

Why? They get the same amount of years out of him, and they're closer to his prime.

Sure. Same with renewing him every year. It's fine as long as they have no intention whatsoever of re-signing him.

Of course, It sounded like he was assuming he was gone anyway, which if he think that his market comparison is Arod, I'd bet he will be.
 
Re: Ryan Horward wins $10 million

Horward deserves every penny he gets. Howard, too. They're both great players with their futures ahead of them. I hope the Phillies can keep them in that infield along with Utley for a long while. What an around-the-horn that would be, huh? Move over, Tinkers, Evers and Chance to make room for Horward, Utley and Howard.
 
outofplace said:
cranberry said:
melock said:
GB-Hack said:
Good for him, I'm surprised the Phillies only went to $7 million in their offer.

They only went that low b/c of his service time. Hopefully they'll work out a long-term deal in the near future with him.

Phillies screwed up on their salary submission, simple as that.

No way Howard should even consider a deal that takes him past arbitration, certainly nothing like the crappy deal Pujols got. Howard should go year by year (going to arbitration, if necessary) then he should go out on the market and get himself a 10-year deal.

This reminds me a little of when Casey Close represented Derek Jeter in his '99 arbitration case with the Yankees.

I think it was Jayson Stark I heard on the radio yesterday talking about how talks between Howard and the team had not gone well and could get even uglier. Supposedly, he was pissed that they simply renewed his contract last year and he is unhappy about how his service time was set back whille waiting in the minors behind Jim Thome.

I just don't see him signing there long term unless the Phillies offer him above market value.

I've read the same things from numerous reporters in Philadelphia. As dumb as the Phillies are they'd be stupid not to at least consider signing him long term to a contract that overpays him. He puts people in the seats and is one of the most dangerous hitters in baseball. Maybe they'll rethink it if he wins another MVP. He put those numbers last year despite missing several weeks with a leg injury.
 
mike311gd said:
Horward deserves every penny he gets. Howard, too. They're both great players with their futures ahead of them. I hope the Phillies can keep them in that infield along with Utley for a long while. What an around-the-horn that would be, huh? Move over, Tinkers, Evers and Chance to make room for Horward, Utley and Howard.

Your future is ahead of you, too. So is mine.
 
phils will sign him long term for the simple reason that he (in part with utley) help sell out most home games and probably a good amount on the road. These guys actually have people from philly really excited about baseball again and that is saying something considering the history this club has....
 
Moderator1 said:
mike311gd said:
Horward deserves every penny he gets. Howard, too. They're both great players with their futures ahead of them. I hope the Phillies can keep them in that infield along with Utley for a long while. What an around-the-horn that would be, huh? Move over, Tinkers, Evers and Chance to make room for Horward, Utley and Howard.

Your future is ahead of you, too. So is mine.

We've all got hope. Now if only my $10 million check will get here.
 

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