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Payton was on the hot seat entering this year. That's another example of how quick things can change.
Kudos to him, though, on making the biggest move--fixing that atrocious defense--and giving up 250 grand of his own money to do it. A decent defense puts the Saints in the playoffs every year since '06.
I think Payton has been a great play-caller for years, but it took awhile for him to really learn how to be a great head coach. This year, with the pressure on, he aced the test.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
I didn't think I could justify putting him No. 3, even though Fisher hasn't won anything. How can you put Shanahan behind Andy Reid, who is a good coach, but also hasn't won anything.

There's a reason that a lot of the coaches who have left the game are taking their sweet time coming back or aren't doing it at all.

if that's the logic then how does Ryan go ahead of Coughlin
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
I was listening to a show last night and they were asking people how many coaches would you rather have than Sean Payton. Most people had him in their top four and the by the end of the conversation they were talking about who the worst coach in the league was.

Too bad Zorn isn't still the head coach of the Redskins. He'd be number 32.

Now I'd go for Tom Cable as No. 32. Other than that, I got nothing.

I don't think Sean Payton is in the upper echelon of head coaches in the league. However, I think he's the right head coach for the New Orleans Saints. He might not be the right fit elsewhere, but there's no one else I'd rather have in New Orleans.
 
These guys are only as good as the players their GMs draft for them.

I would say that you have Whisenhunt too low.
 
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Lee Jackson Beauregard said:
Some of them can heal the sick and raise the 3-13 dead.

It isn't all who stocks the cupboard.

Yeah, but if reverse the draft order I think you will be pretty close to the public's coach rankings.
 
Lee Jackson Beauregard said:
Some of them can heal the sick and raise the 3-13 dead.

It isn't all who stocks the cupboard.

True, but then why didn't the greatest of the greats win multiple SBs with different QBs over different eras?
 
93Devil said:
Lee Jackson Beauregard said:
Some of them can heal the sick and raise the 3-13 dead.

It isn't all who stocks the cupboard.

True, but then why didn't the greatest of the greats win multiple SBs with different QBs over different eras?

ever hear of Joe Gibbs
 
cjericho said:
93Devil said:
Lee Jackson Beauregard said:
Some of them can heal the sick and raise the 3-13 dead.

It isn't all who stocks the cupboard.

True, but then why didn't the greatest of the greats win multiple SBs with different QBs over different eras?

ever hear of Joe Gibbs

One.

How many more can you name?
 
93Devil said:
cjericho said:
93Devil said:
Lee Jackson Beauregard said:
Some of them can heal the sick and raise the 3-13 dead.

It isn't all who stocks the cupboard.

True, but then why didn't the greatest of the greats win multiple SBs with different QBs over different eras?

ever hear of Joe Gibbs

One.

How many more can you name?

parcells also. but what's the point. they have a franchise QB that wins multiple SBs then they should go out and get someone else? the way to build a team is pretty much get a franchise qb and solid def and build around it.
 
Other than the Giants, who did Parcells win a Super Bowl with?

My point is the draft and grooming your picks are just as important as who coaches your team.

Landry won with different groups of players for the same team, but the list is very short.
 
93Devil said:
Other than the Giants, who did Parcells win a Super Bowl with?

My point is the draft and grooming your picks are just as important as who coaches your team.

Landry won with different groups of players for the same team, but the list is very short.

Seriously??

Simms won 1 Super Bowl
Hostetler won 1 Super Bowl
2 different QBs

yeah drafting and grooming your picks is very important but good teams with good coaches have won with sub-par QBs.



edit: it's pretty much the same in every sport. who has won multiple NBA titles with different teams.
Phil Jackson and he had 2 of the best 5 players in the league on each of those teams.
if you're going to say the coach needs to win with different teams and different QBs the list is very small. but most people would agree that a coach going from one winning team and taking over another and improving that team is a measure of a good coach.
 
cjericho said:
Mizzougrad96 said:
I didn't think I could justify putting him No. 3, even though Fisher hasn't won anything. How can you put Shanahan behind Andy Reid, who is a good coach, but also hasn't won anything.

There's a reason that a lot of the coaches who have left the game are taking their sweet time coming back or aren't doing it at all.

if that's the logic then how does Ryan go ahead of Coughlin

Or Tomlin. Question the guy for this season all you want, but he has led his team to a Super Bowl. And he, like Ryan, led his team to the playoffs in his first season when that team had missed the playoffs the previous year.
 
cjericho said:
93Devil said:
Other than the Giants, who did Parcells win a Super Bowl with?

My point is the draft and grooming your picks are just as important as who coaches your team.

Landry won with different groups of players for the same team, but the list is very short.

Seriously??

Simms won 1 Super Bowl
Hostetler won 1 Super Bowl
2 different QBs

yeah drafting and grooming your picks is very important but good teams with good coaches have won with sub-par QBs.



edit: it's pretty much the same in every sport. who has won multiple NBA titles with different teams.
Phil Jackson and he had 2 of the best 5 players in the league on each of those teams.
if you're going to say the coach needs to win with different teams and different QBs the list is very small. but most people would agree that a coach going from one winning team and taking over another and improving that team is a measure of a good coach.

So you are saying the team that Hostetler won with was different than the group Simms won with?

And if Parcells was so great, why didn't the Pats, Jets and Cowboys win SBs with him?

The logic that a coach, or a different coach, can step in and turn things around is what gets coaches fired every season, and keeps the Redskins, Lions, Rams and all the other bottom feeders at the bottom.

Many times you are better sticking with what you have and figuring out a way to support that coach better.
 
93Devil said:
cjericho said:
93Devil said:
Other than the Giants, who did Parcells win a Super Bowl with?

My point is the draft and grooming your picks are just as important as who coaches your team.

Landry won with different groups of players for the same team, but the list is very short.

Seriously??

Simms won 1 Super Bowl
Hostetler won 1 Super Bowl
2 different QBs

yeah drafting and grooming your picks is very important but good teams with good coaches have won with sub-par QBs.



edit: it's pretty much the same in every sport. who has won multiple NBA titles with different teams.
Phil Jackson and he had 2 of the best 5 players in the league on each of those teams.
if you're going to say the coach needs to win with different teams and different QBs the list is very small. but most people would agree that a coach going from one winning team and taking over another and improving that team is a measure of a good coach.

So you are saying the team that Hostetler won with was different than the group Simms won with?

And if Parcells was so great, why didn't the Pats, Jets and Cowboys win SBs with him?

The logic that a coach, or a different coach, can step in and turn things around is what gets coaches fired every season, and keeps the Redskins, Lions, Rams and all the other bottom feeders at the bottom.

Many times you are better sticking with what you have and figuring out a way to support that coach better.

Parcells is good, maybe not great. he didn't improve those teams?
no it wasn't a different era, not many guys coach over 20 years. but it
was different QBs different RB and WRs
 
Lovie Smith has to go straight to 31 (Cable is in a category of his own) for hiring (or allowing to be hired) the certifiable cement-head Rod Marinelli (0-16) as DC, and the back-stabbing, undermining, egomaniacal primadonna Mike Martz as OC.

The entire Bears offseason will consist of those two idiots attempting to pack the roster full of sub-mediocre waiver-wire-level castoffs whose only virtue is they "know the [coach's] system." Systems in both cases which have become completely outmoded and outdated.

By October, Martz will be scapegoating the defense for all the team's problems (never mind the 5 turnovers and 8 sacks per game barfed up by his QBs) and working his pals in the media to push the angle "the locker room has given up on Lovie," and guess who is available to take over at any time??
 

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