Porn for BYH

[dooley_womack1]

I think 1958, 1928 and 1892 have to be right up there, too.[/spnited]

 

[forever_town]

Are you kidding? spnited was in his high school's marching band in 1776! I'm surprised they don't keep sending him residuals for "Yankee Doodle Dandy"!

 

[Double J]

How do you know they don't? ;D

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

1985 was the nadir of 1980s music — it also gave us Mr. Mister, REO Speedwagon, "Party All The Time," "St. Elmo's Fire," "Sussudio," and at the tail end of the year, "Say You, Say Me." Hurl-tastic.

Disagree. I think it was the last gasp good year of the decade. Other than rap, the 1986-91 era, basically spanning my high school years, was unmitigated ****.

Some good things were done by actual heavy/thrash metal bands (NOT those glam bozos) from 1986-1991 as well.

 

[Bubbler]

1985 was the nadir of 1980s music — it also gave us Mr. Mister, REO Speedwagon, "Party All The Time," "St. Elmo's Fire," "Sussudio," and at the tail end of the year, "Say You, Say Me." Hurl-tastic.

Disagree. I think it was the last gasp good year of the decade. Other than rap, the 1986-91 era, basically spanning my high school years, was unmitigated ****.

Some good things were done by actual heavy/thrash metal bands (NOT those glam bozos) from 1986-1991 as well.

I know that's true, and you can include indie bands like the Pixies, etc., but the majority of music that was heard by most people from that era is so over-produced and saccarhin. Not to mention way too synth-driven.

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

1985 was the nadir of 1980s music — it also gave us Mr. Mister, REO Speedwagon, "Party All The Time," "St. Elmo's Fire," "Sussudio," and at the tail end of the year, "Say You, Say Me." Hurl-tastic.

Disagree. I think it was the last gasp good year of the decade. Other than rap, the 1986-91 era, basically spanning my high school years, was unmitigated ****.

Some good things were done by actual heavy/thrash metal bands (NOT those glam bozos) from 1986-1991 as well.

I know that's true, and you can include indie bands like the Pixies, etc., but the majority of music that was heard by most people from that era is so over-produced and saccarhin. Not to mention way too synth-driven.

Yeah, the group of albums called Reign in Blood/Master of Puppets/Rust in Peace/Among the Living didn't exactly get a lot of airplay. Alice in Chains' debut did get some play toward the end of that period, when radio stations were falling all over each other to get some "SEATTLE!!!!" on the airwaves.

 

[Buck]

Good music was harder to find then than now? Is that what you're saying there?

Yes, that is what I'm saying there.

So where is it now then?

Well, there's this thing called the Internet. Many of us have found it quite useful.
It has created greater ease of access to music and expanded the pool of music to which we have access.
It requires a little poking around some times, but there's a lot stuff on it, a lot more stuff than you could get at Sam Goodies or through your monthly record and tape club in 1985.

 

[BYH]

O hai everyone! How did I miss this?

The new top 40 makes me angry. I don't WANT to hear Alan Hunter, who never shuts the **** up, or Nina Blackwood, who has apparently been gargling glass the last 30 years, or even Mark Goodman, who seems as cool now (relatively speaking) as he did in 1984. **** Mel Karmazin, that cheap ****er, for getting rid of the AT40s on the 80s. The '70s editions are apparently still playing on the 70s station. Yippee. Nothing like hearing "You're No Good" to remind me of the time I crapped my diapers.

I thought it was already established that BYH porn is Belinda Carlisle circa 1987.

Nobody has ever been any hotter.

 

[Chef]

My Christmas gift to the board;

If BYH lasts 8 seconds while looking at this pic, well then I'll be shocked.

For more enjoyable Belinda pics, just do a google search in the "OFF" position.

 

[cyclingwriter]

1985 was the nadir of 1980s music — it also gave us Mr. Mister, REO Speedwagon, "Party All The Time," "St. Elmo's Fire," "Sussudio," and at the tail end of the year, "Say You, Say Me." Hurl-tastic.

Disagree. I think it was the last gasp good year of the decade. Other than rap, the 1986-91 era, basically spanning my high school years, was unmitigated ****.

Some good things were done by actual heavy/thrash metal bands (NOT those glam bozos) from 1986-1991 as well.

I know that's true, and you can include indie bands like the Pixies, etc., but the majority of music that was heard by most people from that era is so over-produced and saccarhin. Not to mention way too synth-driven.

Yeah, the group of albums called Reign in Blood/Master of Puppets/Rust in Peace/Among the Living didn't exactly get a lot of airplay. Alice in Chains' debut did get some play toward the end of that period, when radio stations were falling all over each other to get some "SEATTLE!!!!" on the airwaves.

REM and U2 put out a lot of good songs that got significant airplay between 1986 and 1991. Were they as popular as the hair metal crud and bad R&B? Sadly no, but they sold.

 

[BYH]

1985 was the nadir of 1980s music — it also gave us Mr. Mister, REO Speedwagon, "Party All The Time," "St. Elmo's Fire," "Sussudio," and at the tail end of the year, "Say You, Say Me." Hurl-tastic.

Disagree. I think it was the last gasp good year of the decade. Other than rap, the 1986-91 era, basically spanning my high school years, was unmitigated ****.

Some good things were done by actual heavy/thrash metal bands (NOT those glam bozos) from 1986-1991 as well.

I know that's true, and you can include indie bands like the Pixies, etc., but the majority of music that was heard by most people from that era is so over-produced and saccarhin. Not to mention way too synth-driven.

Yeah, the group of albums called Reign in Blood/Master of Puppets/Rust in Peace/Among the Living didn't exactly get a lot of airplay. Alice in Chains' debut did get some play toward the end of that period, when radio stations were falling all over each other to get some "SEATTLE!!!!" on the airwaves.

REM and U2 put out a lot of good songs that got significant airplay between 1986 and 1991. Were they as popular as the hair metal crud and bad R&B? Sadly no, but they sold.

They weren't? Joshua Tree sold 10 million copies and Out Of Time sold four million copies. They certainly held their own against hair metal and rap.

 

[Double J]

Just looking at 1987-88, U2 also had two No. 1 singles and another hit that peaked at No. 3. That's more than significant airplay. Bon Jovi was the only hair metal band of the era with more than one No. 1 record.

 

[cyclingwriter]

1985 was the nadir of 1980s music — it also gave us Mr. Mister, REO Speedwagon, "Party All The Time," "St. Elmo's Fire," "Sussudio," and at the tail end of the year, "Say You, Say Me." Hurl-tastic.

Disagree. I think it was the last gasp good year of the decade. Other than rap, the 1986-91 era, basically spanning my high school years, was unmitigated ****.

Some good things were done by actual heavy/thrash metal bands (NOT those glam bozos) from 1986-1991 as well.

I know that's true, and you can include indie bands like the Pixies, etc., but the majority of music that was heard by most people from that era is so over-produced and saccarhin. Not to mention way too synth-driven.

Yeah, the group of albums called Reign in Blood/Master of Puppets/Rust in Peace/Among the Living didn't exactly get a lot of airplay. Alice in Chains' debut did get some play toward the end of that period, when radio stations were falling all over each other to get some "SEATTLE!!!!" on the airwaves.

REM and U2 put out a lot of good songs that got significant airplay between 1986 and 1991. Were they as popular as the hair metal crud and bad R&B? Sadly no, but they sold.

They weren't? Joshua Tree sold 10 million copies and Out Of Time sold four million copies. They certainly held their own against hair metal and rap.

Add up all the glam metal sales from Poison, Guns and Roses, Motley Crue,Ratt, Cinderella, Winger et al. plus Bell Biv Devo, Bobby Brown and other "New Jack" bands, and they dwarf the sales of the the then modern rock genre which encompassed U2, REM and the indie scene such as the Pixies, Dinosaur Jr and the rest. I think that is what Bubbler was getting at. There were beacons of good music in the late 1980s, and some of it sold albums and concerts, but the mass percentage of the record-buying product was forking over money for junk.

 

[Double J]

And they're not doing that still?

 

[cyclingwriter]

And they're not doing that still?

I once got in a debate with my flower child boss about the late 1960s/ early 1970s music scene. He emphatically insists the best music ever came from them. I agreed, but with the caveat that it was everywhere so people saw it. People forget for every Grateful Dead, Zeppelin, Rolling Stones record that came out then, there was an Englbert Humperdink looming around the corner. People forgot the crap.
I am sure there is a lot of great rock music being today, but it is buried behind Lady Gaga videos.

so, you are correct. Somewhere along the line, record companies went paint by numbers. Ok, rant over.

 

[Double J]

Somewhere along the line? Nope, it's always been that way. Look at the 1940s - for every "Sentimental Journey" at the top of the hit parade or on the radio, there was a corresponding "Mairzy Doats."

You also have to consider - what is crap? One man's crap, musically speaking, is another man's treasure. Let's look at 1969, a truly landmark year. You had the Beatles, the Stones, the Supremes, Elvis Presley, Marvin Gaye, Sly and the Family Stone, etc. They were all at the top of the charts at one point or another during that year. So were "Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye" by Steam, "Dizzy" by Tommy Roe and "Sugar, Sugar" by the Archies, which, believe it or not, was actually the No. 1 song of the entire year. But those are three great, classic records, even if they don't necessarily "compare" to the Grateful Dead or Zeppelin or what was happening at Woodstock. (And, for the record, I'd rather listen to the Archies and Tommy Roe - one man's treasure. )

 

[BYH]

Add up all the glam metal sales from Poison, Guns and Roses, Motley Crue,Ratt, Cinderella, Winger et al. plus Bell Biv Devo, Bobby Brown and other "New Jack" bands, and they dwarf the sales of the the then modern rock genre which encompassed U2, REM and the indie scene such as the Pixies, Dinosaur Jr and the rest. I think that is what Bubbler was getting at. There were beacons of good music in the late 1980s, and some of it sold albums and concerts, but the mass percentage of the record-buying product was forking over money for junk.

90 pct (if not more) of those bands didn't sell as much in their entire career as U2 did with one record, or as much as REM did with any two. Those metal/hip-hop bands (most of which roooooled, but I won't argue that with you here ) continue to tour and record today, to absolutely zero fanfare.

Even the non-U2/REMs of the indie/alternative world continue to tour and record to some attention. They may not be selling many records, but they've still got a legitimacy about them that the metal/hip hoppers traded in exchange for many miilions in sales. Considering how even most million-selling bands are broke thanks to terribly shady deals, I imagine they'd trade the platinum records for some respect.

 

[Chef]

Add up all the glam metal sales from Poison, Guns and Roses, Motley Crue,Ratt, Cinderella, Winger et al. plus Bell Biv Devo, Bobby Brown and other "New Jack" bands, and they dwarf the sales of the the then modern rock genre which encompassed U2, REM and the indie scene such as the Pixies, Dinosaur Jr and the rest. I think that is what Bubbler was getting at. There were beacons of good music in the late 1980s, and some of it sold albums and concerts, but the mass percentage of the record-buying product was forking over money for junk.

90 pct (if not more) of those bands didn't sell as much in their entire career as U2 did with one record, or as much as REM did with any two. Those metal/hip-hop bands (most of which roooooled, but I won't argue that with you here ) continue to tour and record today, to absolutely zero fanfare.

Even the non-U2/REMs of the indie/alternative world continue to tour and record to some attention. They may not be selling many records, but they've still got a legitimacy about them that the metal/hip hoppers traded in exchange for many miilions in sales. Considering how even most million-selling bands are broke thanks to terribly shady deals, I imagine they'd trade the platinum records for some respect.

Didn't Steelheart have a No. 1 album?

 

[Chef]

O hai everyone! How did I miss this?

You were probably out sifting through the bins upon bins of good new music that apparently is out there.

Yeah.

He should be sending me a copy of steelheart anyday now.

 

[Petrie]

1985 was the nadir of 1980s music — it also gave us Mr. Mister, REO Speedwagon, "Party All The Time," "St. Elmo's Fire," "Sussudio," and at the tail end of the year, "Say You, Say Me." Hurl-tastic.

Disagree. I think it was the last gasp good year of the decade. Other than rap, the 1986-91 era, basically spanning my high school years, was unmitigated ****.

Some good things were done by actual heavy/thrash metal bands (NOT those glam bozos) from 1986-1991 as well.

I know that's true, and you can include indie bands like the Pixies, etc., but the majority of music that was heard by most people from that era is so over-produced and saccarhin. Not to mention way too synth-driven.

Yeah, the group of albums called Reign in Blood/Master of Puppets/Rust in Peace/Among the Living didn't exactly get a lot of airplay. Alice in Chains' debut did get some play toward the end of that period, when radio stations were falling all over each other to get some "SEATTLE!!!!" on the airwaves.

REM and U2 put out a lot of good songs that got significant airplay between 1986 and 1991. Were they as popular as the hair metal crud and bad R&B? Sadly no, but they sold.

They weren't? Joshua Tree sold 10 million copies and Out Of Time sold four million copies. They certainly held their own against hair metal and rap.

Add up all the glam metal sales from Poison, Guns and Roses, Motley Crue,Ratt, Cinderella, Winger et al. plus Bell Biv Devo, Bobby Brown and other "New Jack" bands, and they dwarf the sales of the the then modern rock genre which encompassed U2, REM and the indie scene such as the Pixies, Dinosaur Jr and the rest. I think that is what Bubbler was getting at. There were beacons of good music in the late 1980s, and some of it sold albums and concerts, but the mass percentage of the record-buying product was forking over money for junk.

I like a lot of this junk...