NYPD turning its back on DeBlasio

[LongTimeListener]

It's not going to work unless we also build orphanages to house every child who ever gets arrested.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Perhaps we can even staff them with fresh-faced and eager 22-year-olds with no experience and a whole five weeks of training. Police for America. It will be a great bullet point on their resumes.

Why hasn't Caleb Hannan reported on this yet? It's been a whole five minutes.

 

[X-Hack]

How many don't teach for other reasons? Like incompetence. LOL.

What a completely worthless post.

 

[old_tony]

What's the root behavior?

Should the cops have engaged Michael Brown and/or Eric Garner?

If the answer is yes, then how the events spiraled out of control was not entirely of their doing.

If folks want to have an honest discussion about how aggressive policing should be, and what procedures should be followed, that's great. We should have it.

Cran believes we need to go back to the good old days when criminals just walked to the police station and turned themselves in.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Cran believes we need to go back to the good old days when criminals just walked to the police station and turned themselves in.

You mean like this guy?

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/12/man_walks_into_nopd_headquarte.html

Or this guy?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...ves-boyfriend-slasher-turns-article-1.2061683

Or this guy?

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/12...ve-convenience-store-robber-turns-himself-in/

 

[old_tony]

He's doing an absurdist commentary on Yankee's teacher stance.

And making a fool of himself.

 

[old_tony]

You mean like this guy?

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/12/man_walks_into_nopd_headquarte.html

Or this guy?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...ves-boyfriend-slasher-turns-article-1.2061683

Or this guy?

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/12...ve-convenience-store-robber-turns-himself-in/

Hell, we don't need cops at all.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Hell, we don't need cops at all.

They are making that very point themselves with their NYC work stoppage. Society seems to be functioning quite well without them writing tickets.

 

[dooley_womack1]

No, but I do think they are down because things that used to be tolerated are no longer tolerated.

Murders are down all over the nation. Maybe the programs to help minorities are bearing fruit? In NYC, turning Times Square into a mall and gentrifying much of Harlem didn't hurt, either.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

They are making that very point themselves with their NYC work stoppage. Society seems to be functioning quite well without them writing tickets.

Wait until the budget discussions come up.

 

[YankeeFan]

Police union chief criticizes the Mayor, and we get editorials calling on others in the labor movement to denounce the rhetoric.

Labor organizer assaults cop? Crickets:

An organizer for one of the city’s largest private labor unions was arrested Thursday in connection with the assault of two NYPD lieutenants on the Brooklyn Bridge during last Saturday's march against police violence.

Robert Murray, 43, an organizer for 32BJ SEIU, who surrendered to police and who police previously identified as "Male No. 3," is alleged to have pulled Lieutenants Philip Chan and Patrick Sullivan “to the ground” as they attempted to arrest CUNY adjunct professor Eric Linsker for allegedly throwing or trying to throw a metal garbage can. ("The acts of Eric Linsker is what started the whole chain of events," said Manhattan chief of detectives William Aubry at a press conference today.)

Referring to video of the melee, Aubry said, “He also punches Lt. Chan, twice, so hard that we have a witness that says he heard the fist to the face. He heard that noise.”

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/artic...nizer-arrested-brooklyn-bridge-police-assault

 

[cranberry]

So you think there should be editorials calling for what exactly?

 

[heyabbott]

Murders are down all over the nation. Maybe the programs to help minorities are bearing fruit? In NYC, turning Times Square into a mall and gentrifying much of Harlem didn't hurt, either.

Why would programs to help minorities bear fruit and reduce murders? Are those minorities prone to violence?

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Murders are down all over the nation. Maybe the programs to help minorities are bearing fruit? In NYC, turning Times Square into a mall and gentrifying much of Harlem didn't hurt, either.

Perhaps the most efficient statement ever typed on this site. So much condescension, paternalism and racism packed into 32 words.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Why would programs to help minorities bear fruit and reduce murders? Are those minorities prone to violence?

Yes, statistically. They are.

 

[Dick Whitman]

So you think there should be editorials calling for what exactly?

He wants to see the Nee York Times show some guts and take a hard-line stance against criminal assault.

 

[heyabbott]

Yes, statistically. They are.

Should statistic be used to justify stopping individuals, not as the sole factor, but as a factor?

 

[SnarkShark]

Yes, statistically. They are.

Statistically more likely to get convicted, you mean.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Statistically more likely to get convicted, you mean.

No. That's not what I mean. Minorities in the United States, blacks and Hispanics in particular, are much more statistically likely to commit violent acts than white people in the United States are.

 

[Boom_70]

No. That's not what I mean. Minorities in the United States, blacks and Hispanics in particular, are much more statistically likely to commit violent acts than white people in the United States are.

FBI Table 43 says it all . We don't have much to worry about with American Indians commiting murder but their
pubic drunkenness is off the charts:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...he-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf