NFL MVP

[JC]

Yeah, he looked really good against Tampa Bay. But Elliott and the running game is what really makes that team go.

That's called an oline

 

[da man]

That's called an oline

Elliott has a lot to do with it, too. I didn't see Darren McFadden hurdling guys downfield and breaking off the kinds of runs Elliott is making.

 

[da man]

Elliott has a lot to do with it, too. I didn't see Darren McFadden hurdlig guys down field and breaking off the kind of runs Elliott is making.

As Jason Garrett has said many times, "The running back matters."

 

[Michael_ Gee]

Elliott is terrific. But that offensive line ought to be co-MVPs. They just didn't help him. Tough to imagine Prescott being nearly as good without them.

 

[Football_Bat]

Nobody is beating Brady for MVP.

ROY between Prescott and Elliott will be interesting. I have to lean Zeke. He's been the more consistent of the two. I don't see a darkhorse other than maybe Bosa.

 

[User 11148]

Elliott is terrific. But that offensive line ought to be co-MVPs. They just didn't help him. Tough to imagine Prescott being nearly as good without them.

It's all interrelated, which is why the idea of an MVP in professional football is kind of silly. Take away one of those three pieces and the other two don't look nearly so good.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

It's all interrelated, which is why the idea of an MVP in professional football is kind of silly. Take away one of those three pieces and the other two don't look nearly so good.

I agree with you. But it's weird everyone in football keeps telling you it's the ultimate team sport and then only gives individual awards to offensive stars.

 

[da man]

I agree with you. But it's weird everyone in football keeps telling you it's the ultimate team sport and then only gives individual awards to offensive stars.

Sean Lee has been by far the best defensive player on the team with the league's best record -- which also ranks No. 1 in the league in rushing defense.

As I recall, NFLGSIS's stats show him second in the league in total tackles and solo tackles.

 

[CD Boogie]

Bell is the real outlier. The QBs are all bunched together. Bell is averaging more than 20 yards more per game from scrimmage than the nearest guy, David Johnson.

Steelers with Bell last year win the Super Bowl.

 

[Kayaugstin Kott]

1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers (though he could play his into No. 1)

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

So there's not a single defensive player worthy of consideration?

Maybe. I couldn't think of any worth serious consideration.
I'll add an "other."

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

My sole argument against Brady is they went 4-1 without him.
Does NE make the playoffs without Brady? I think so.
The same with Prescott/Elliott. With Romo/Elliott I think Dallas still makes the playoffs and contends. The same is true with Prescott/and whoever is backing Elliott (if he weren't playing).
Isn't Rodgers having an off year in terms of passing? I say that without looking.

I think the Falcons may or may not make the playoffs with Schaub instead of Ryan under center. But the Falcons are hardly a dominant team. Dangerous? Oh hell yes.

But I really like Carr. If they miss the 2-point conversion against New Orleans whats happens? Are still atop the division? I don't think the Raiders make the playoffs without Carr.

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Sean Lee has been by far the best defensive player on the team with the league's best record -- which also ranks No. 1 in the league in rushing defense.

As I recall, NFLGSIS's stats show him second in the league in total tackles and solo tackles.

And Dallas also has one of the best O-lines in the NFL... Makes it easy to run and pass with you got holes and time.

 

[outofplace]

Bell is the real outlier. The QBs are all bunched together. Bell is averaging more than 20 yards more per game from scrimmage than the nearest guy, David Johnson.

Steelers with Bell last year win the Super Bowl.

I think they beat the Broncos with him, but I doubt they would have beaten the Patriots on the road.

You have to look at more than yards from scrimmage per game with Bell because of the time he missed due to the suspension. Of course, Brady missed even more time, so there is that argument.

 

[da man]

And Dallas also has one of the best O-lines in the NFL... Makes it easy to run and pass with you got holes and time.

The offensive line isn't helping Sean Lee make tackles, is it?

 

[heyabbott]

I don't think the Raiders make the playoffs without Carr.

It looks like the Cowboys make the playoffs without their original starting QB. Do the Falcons win 2 games with Shaub? Do the Giant win 2 games without Eli, who is not even playing very good? Green Bay without Rogers may be less than the Eagles.
Without the 1st string QB, 10 of the 12 playoff teams would have losing records

 

[cjericho]

My sole argument against Brady is they went 4-1 without him.
Does NE make the playoffs without Brady? I think so.
The same with Prescott/Elliott. With Romo/Elliott I think Dallas still makes the playoffs and contends. The same is true with Prescott/and whoever is backing Elliott (if he weren't playing).
Isn't Rodgers having an off year in terms of passing? I say that without looking.

I think the Falcons may or may not make the playoffs with Schaub instead of Ryan under center. But the Falcons are hardly a dominant team. Dangerous? Oh hell yes.

But I really like Carr. If they miss the 2-point conversion against New Orleans whats happens? Are still atop the division? I don't think the Raiders make the playoffs without Carr.

Garoppolo was pretty banged up when Brady came back. Brisett also was hurt.

 

[Football_Bat]

Sean Lee has been by far the best defensive player on the team with the league's best record -- which also ranks No. 1 in the league in rushing defense.

As I recall, NFLGSIS's stats show him second in the league in total tackles and solo tackles.

And yet, the voters left Sean Lee off the Pro Bowl roster.

 

[da man]

And yet, the voters left Sean Lee off the Pro Bowl roster.

I'm not a Cowboys fan by any means, but that really is a travesty. That defense has been way better than anyone ever thought it would be, and Lee is the No. 1 reason. He's been fabulous.

 

[CD Boogie]

It looks like the Cowboys make the playoffs without their original starting QB. Do the Falcons win 2 games with Shaub? Do the Giant win 2 games without Eli, who is not even playing very good? Green Bay without Rogers may be less than the Eagles.
Without the 1st string QB, 10 of the 12 playoff teams would have losing records

Do the Giants have any offense at all without Beckham?