Mass. may defect from Eastern Time Zone

[swingline]

I want to retire from winter.

I wish I could hibernate. Damned ****ty evolution.

 

[MisterCreosote]

Cold and darkness >>>> heat, daylight and massive crowds.

 

[swingline]

I'll grant you the massive crowds, but I'd rather have heat and daylight every day and twice on Sunday.

 

[micropolitan guy]

California is talking about this too.

Bill to end daylight saving time passes California committee

Arizona already does this without much problem. But it definitely would be weird to have half the West Coast on what would essentially be Mountain Time for half the year.

And it would screw up a lot of baseball telecasts to have Cali games starting at 7 p.m. PST, which would be 8 p.m. PDT on the rest of the West Coast and at 11 p.m. EDT.

 

[albert77]

I'll grant you the massive crowds, but I'd rather have heat and daylight every day and twice on Sunday.

Unless you live someplace where summer lasts from mid-April to the end of October.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Arizona already does this without much problem.

Despite Cosmo's assertion earlier, I don't recall 4:30 darkness ever, and in any case this wouldn't be addressing that, it would just be removing DST in the summertime.

Biggest effect I can see would be on youth and adult rec activities. Most facilities in California are outdoor with no lights. Without DST, you'd be talking about losing baseball/soccer/tennis/swimming daylight by 7:00 or so in April and May, 7:30 in June and July.

 

[Ace]

Heard a blurb about this on the radio. Massachusetts is going to study switching to Atlantic time (with no DST) to avoid it getting dark so early in the winter.

Massachusetts Could Swap Time Zones for Later Winter Sunsets

Not sure how I feel about this one. As someone who has lived much of my life on the far eastern fringe of the Central zone, I recognize how depressing 4:30 sunsets are. But at the same time, it feels like there's something unseemly about constantly rejiggering the clocks to get the outcome just so. At a certain point, it's winter and it is supposed to be dark, right?

But isn't Daylight Savings Time an example of rejiggering the clocks?

 

[LongTimeListener]

Ace, there's probably some merit to the idea that people are out longer than they used to be. People who used to get home from work at 5:00 now get home at 6:00, kids have after-school activities longer into the day, traffic takes longer than it used to, etc.

 

[Ace]

Ace, there's probably some merit to the idea that people are out longer than they used to be. People who used to get home from work at 5:00 now get home at 6:00, kids have after-school activities longer into the day, traffic takes longer than it used to, etc.

I hate it when when it gets dark at 5. Instead of fussing with time zones, can't we just get the earth to stop tilting?

There's gotta be an app for that, right?

 

[Captain_Kirk]

Being on the west side of the time zone helps. In Atlanta, it's light pretty much up until 9pm in the summer.

Hate the cold and snow of the north, but also hate the gray. Definitely someone who's mood is impacted by sunshine. When I lived up north, the number of gray days strung together could seem like an endless string. Down south, the sun rules, and a gray sky is the exception to the rule.

 

[Buck]

I've got two words for you:

giant lamps

 

[Spartan Squad]

California is talking about this too.

Bill to end daylight saving time passes California committee

This died in the state senate a week ago

Effort to eliminate Daylight Saving Time fizzles in Senate: 'I just like it,' says a state senator

 

[LongTimeListener]

Well that's good. Maybe the State of Jefferson will take it up.

 

[Spartan Squad]

Are those guys still at it?

 

[LongTimeListener]

Are those guys still at it?

We drove to Oregon earlier this month. Still on the California side of I-5, there's a barn off the freeway with STATE OF JEFFERSON in giant letters, I assume to be visible from the air as well as the road. My brother-in-law saw a T-shirt at a convenience store but didn't buy me one, the *******.

 

[Spartan Squad]

We drove to Oregon earlier this month. Still on the California side of I-5, there's a barn off the freeway with STATE OF JEFFERSON in giant letters, I assume to be visible from the air as well as the road. My brother-in-law saw a T-shirt at a convenience store but didn't buy me one, the *******.

Jagoff!

Did a search for the t-shirt, I'm not sure if that is a serious state seal or the logo from a local moonshine distributor.

 

[Cosmo]

Weird part about Arizona is up north where the rez uses DST and the rest of the state does not. Was sort of confusing when I worked in Flag since some of our outskirt schools were on the rez and we had to get times right for the paper.

 

[Roscablo]

I loved the no DST while living in Arizona. Just not having to adjust the clocks and adjust with them or even worrying about it, especially with kids, was nice. Did have to think what time everywhere else was, especially with family living in other parts of the Mountain Time Zone. I don't totally care if places got rid of standard time or DST, although I sort of lean toward DST just because I'm not sure how much I'd like it getting light after 9 in the morning in the winter where I currently live (something I don't think people generally consider), although the later summer hours are nice, but I'm not against getting rid of the stupid twice a year clock shifting.

 

[Buck]

Do that many people really struggle with the clock adjustment twice a year? Is that difficult?
It's been around since 1918 in the U.S.

I've got no issue either way. Getting rid of it is fine, but do people really struggle that much with adjusting their clocks twice a year?

 

[Cosmo]

No, but the first week after the shift is a little jarring, because it starts getting pretty dark on the evening commute. We do an alternate work schedule in the fall and winter where we start at 8 and end at 5:30 every other week, rather than 8:30-5. It's dark when you drive in and dark when you leave. A little off putting.