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There was a story in the Wall Street Journal about one-day fantasy sites, which are completely legal and seemingly a pretty fun way to play fantasy.

I signed up for an account last week, and won my first two head-to-heads that I signed up for, but I'm wondering if anyone else has participated and what thoughts and, more importantly, advice other fantasy players might have? It seems like there's a lot of luck involved in one-day leagues, but surely there are ways to find value.
 
I use FanDuel and DraftStreet every week during NFL and college football season. Not as much during basketball and baseball seasons, but some.

I'm a big fan.
 
JackReacher said:
I use FanDuel and DraftStreet every week during NFL and college football season. Not as much during basketball and baseball seasons, but some.

I'm a big fan.

Maybe you and **** Whitman can be best friends for life.
 
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**** Whitman said:
There was a story in the Wall Street Journal about one-day fantasy sites, which are completely legal and seemingly a pretty fun way to play fantasy.

I signed up for an account last week, and won my first two head-to-heads that I signed up for, but I'm wondering if anyone else has participated and what thoughts and, more importantly, advice other fantasy players might have? It seems like there's a lot of luck involved in one-day leagues, but surely there are ways to find value.
You won your first two? Wow, you should bet some serious money now.
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Always figured this was where fantasy sports was heading. I figure the next level will be to post odds and take bets on the fantasy games.
 
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Versatile said:
JackReacher said:
I use FanDuel and DraftStreet every week during NFL and college football season. Not as much during basketball and baseball seasons, but some.

I'm a big fan.

Maybe you and **** Whitman can be best friends for life.

You're 0-2, hoss.
 
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I prefer MLB Beat the Streak. Pick up to two guys per day to get a hit, first one to get 57 guys in a row to do it (and beat diMaggio's streak) wins like $5 mil.

FanDuel seems like a lot of time for minimal return. Beat the Streak is minimal time for minimal return.
 
TheSportsPredictor said:
I prefer MLB Beat the Streak. Pick up to two guys per day to get a hit, first one to get 57 guys in a row to do it (and beat diMaggio's streak) wins like $5 mil.

FanDuel seems like a lot of time for minimal return. Beat the Streak is minimal time for minimal return.

FanDuel doesn't take a lot of time. A few minutes to pick your team and that's it. And you'll actually win if you play FanDuel. You're not winning at Beat The Streak, although I do play that, too.
 
DanOregon said:
**** Whitman said:
There was a story in the Wall Street Journal about one-day fantasy sites, which are completely legal and seemingly a pretty fun way to play fantasy.

I signed up for an account last week, and won my first two head-to-heads that I signed up for, but I'm wondering if anyone else has participated and what thoughts and, more importantly, advice other fantasy players might have? It seems like there's a lot of luck involved in one-day leagues, but surely there are ways to find value.
You won your first two? Wow, you should bet some serious money now.
three-card-monte-3.jpg

For the record, I was not at all implying that I've got some skill as evidenced by the two wins. I was more or less saying that it felt like luck, which it was. But I like winning, and I was wondering if there were ways to actually win via skill.
 
**** Whitman said:
DanOregon said:
**** Whitman said:
There was a story in the Wall Street Journal about one-day fantasy sites, which are completely legal and seemingly a pretty fun way to play fantasy.

I signed up for an account last week, and won my first two head-to-heads that I signed up for, but I'm wondering if anyone else has participated and what thoughts and, more importantly, advice other fantasy players might have? It seems like there's a lot of luck involved in one-day leagues, but surely there are ways to find value.
You won your first two? Wow, you should bet some serious money now.
three-card-monte-3.jpg

For the record, I was not at all implying that I've got some skill as evidenced by the two wins. I was more or less saying that it felt like luck, which it was. But I like winning, and I was wondering if there were ways to actually win via skill.

I'm sure you can cut down the odds, at least, if you REALLY dive into it and analyze matchups. For a sport like baseball, especially, you can figure out which hitters hit which pitchers really well and use them, find guys on short-term hot streaks and figure out who's slumping and avoid them.
Not sure all that effort is worth whatever the potential return is, though. If you're going that far you might as well just find a bookie and bet the games themselves.
 
Batman said:
**** Whitman said:
DanOregon said:
**** Whitman said:
There was a story in the Wall Street Journal about one-day fantasy sites, which are completely legal and seemingly a pretty fun way to play fantasy.

I signed up for an account last week, and won my first two head-to-heads that I signed up for, but I'm wondering if anyone else has participated and what thoughts and, more importantly, advice other fantasy players might have? It seems like there's a lot of luck involved in one-day leagues, but surely there are ways to find value.
You won your first two? Wow, you should bet some serious money now.
three-card-monte-3.jpg

For the record, I was not at all implying that I've got some skill as evidenced by the two wins. I was more or less saying that it felt like luck, which it was. But I like winning, and I was wondering if there were ways to actually win via skill.

I'm sure you can cut down the odds, at least, if you REALLY dive into it and analyze matchups. For a sport like baseball, especially, you can figure out which hitters hit which pitchers really well and use them, find guys on short-term hot streaks and figure out who's slumping and avoid them.

See, I was wondering if the key was finding out who is OVERVALUED because of things like that. In other words, are pitcher-hitter matchups just noise because of the small sample sizes involved? Same with streaks and slumps? And are those things wrongfully being added into player values?

I'm going to try something. I'm going to try to find pitching value for a few nights in a row and see how I do. Wins are worth a lot of points, and if you can find cheap wins from mediocre pitchers, then you can really load up on offense.

Tonight, after analyzing the match-ups, I decided to go with Roberto Hernandez. He's pitching at home against an OK starting pitcher (Deduno), for a team that scores a lot more runs than the team he is pitching against.

I also thought about John Lannan, PHI, at home against WASH, Matt Garza pitching in Chicago, but on the road, against a terrible White Sox batting order, and Jon Lester, who is facing a bad Mariners lineup, but available at a considerable discount because he's pitching against King Felix.
 
Giving this a shot. It looks like you can set up private matches, so if anyone on here wants to play, let me know.
 
So looking back at my pitching picks for last night:

* Hernandez, who I ultimately picked, returned 6 points on a $5,200 salary.
* John Lannan, who I strongly considered, return 16 points on a measly $4,800 salary. Value pick of the night.
* Matt Garza returned 16 points on a $7,500 salary.
* Jon Lester returned 6 points on a $6,600 salary.

Obviously still trying to figure it out, but not bad. Derek Holland, Zack Greinke, Tim Lincecum, Jeremy Guthrie, Kevin Slowey, and Bartolo Colon also ended up bringing excellent value last night, pitching-wise.

In hindsight, I should have carried through my Wall Street principles here and hedged on all those pitchers and started each one in about five match-ups or so. I think I would have come out ahead for the night that way.
 
It feels lame to do it, but Wainwright ($9,800) and Verlander ($8,500), pitching at home tonight against sad sack lineups, feel like hanging curveballs over the middle of the plate. I also pitched Josh Johnson ($6,300) in a few games, as he seemed like good value against the Indians. Cole Hamels ($7,100) at home against the Nationals is tempting, as well, if I want to add some more hedge at lunch today. He's undervalued right now, and pitching at home against a team that doesn't score many runs and strikes out a lot.
 
Football_Bat said:
Inky_Wretch said:
black dude with pompano said:
I've used DraftStreet...It really is like legal sports gambling. It's so obvious that I wonder why no one thought of it long ago.

I have a difficult time believing somebody won $270,000 in one month on that site as the leaderboard indicates.

Dayum, yeah.

I believe it. I at least believe it's possible. I'm sure there's a way to crack the system, particularly in quant-friendly games like baseball and basketball, as opposed to the NFL and hockey. At that point, like poker before it, it's just a matter of how much money you have to pour into it.
 

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