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Ragu,

There are documents that prove that what I have posted here about an investigation of Novitzky is true. I can tell you this much. You will certainly not be the person who dictates when and where these documents are presented publically.
 
The Good Doctor said:
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Once again, I am rewarded for not being one of the 17.

Excellent work.
 
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Ragu,

Where's the indictment if they have such slam dunk evidence like you repeatedly suggest? What are you going to say after there is no indictment? Will you then burn your autographed copy of the Game of Shadows?
 
creamora said:
Novitzky may have some skeletons in his closet that at some point may become public knowledge. He and a couple of other IRS agents may be subjects of an internal investigation involving investigative misconduct. A part of it may involve some evidence which disappeared. There may be documents from this internal investigation in the possession of a few lawyers. These documents may not be under seal. here may be a lot more to this intriguing story.

That's a lot of maybes, Creamora, although none of it would be terribly surprising. There's always been something creepy about the guy's obsession with Bonds (which the Playboy article captured at the very beginning). I'll never understand why the Chronicle has chosen to portray him as some type of hero.
 
Maybes are best sometimes. The case is about "cheating to win" and maybe when all is said and done Novitzky will be determined to be the biggest cheater of all. Maybe Novitzky will be indicted. Would that surprise you? Could the hero of Game of Shadows possibly be indicted? Has he broken laws all along the way? Ask Michael Rains if he has any evidence of misconduct by Novitzky. What if the Chronicle boys have knowledge of misconduct by Novitzky, but have not reported it? It ain't over yet that's for sure.
 
cranberry said:
creamora said:
Novitzky may have some skeletons in his closet that at some point may become public knowledge. He and a couple of other IRS agents may be subjects of an internal investigation involving investigative misconduct. A part of it may involve some evidence which disappeared. There may be documents from this internal investigation in the possession of a few lawyers. These documents may not be under seal. here may be a lot more to this intriguing story.
. I'll never understand why the Chronicle has chosen to portray him as some type of hero.

I think I can guess.
 
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Fenian_Bastard said:
cranberry said:
creamora said:
Novitzky may have some skeletons in his closet that at some point may become public knowledge. He and a couple of other IRS agents may be subjects of an internal investigation involving investigative misconduct. A part of it may involve some evidence which disappeared. There may be documents from this internal investigation in the possession of a few lawyers. These documents may not be under seal. here may be a lot more to this intriguing story.
. I'll never understand why the Chronicle has chosen to portray him as some type of hero.

I think I can guess.

I can't wait for the next turn in the "Mark and Lance (and the Chron), American Heroes" saga. This is just getting started. Or, I should say, it could be. Depends on what we find out via new info on Novitsky, from Ellerman, etc.
 
A little more from Rains ...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2904759
 
cranberry,

Novitzky is about be exposed. Strap on your seatbelts! The fun
is about to begin.
 
creamora said:
cranberry,

Novitzky is about be exposed. Strap on your seatbelts! The fun
is about to begin.

Exposed as what? The guy who sent a bunch of drug dealers to prison?

A lawyer whose client looks guilty to the world and has legal action looming over his head comes out and says, "I have evidence of wrongdoing by the Feds! But, um, I'm not going to tell you what it is."

Yeah right. There's a reason no one paid any attention to him... It's the same old BS.

How's that libel lawsuit against the SF Chronicle he blustered about going?
 
creamora said:
cranberry,

Novitzky is about be exposed. Strap on your seatbelts! The fun
is about to begin.

Well, I still haven't heard the name Novitzky come up and I'm trying to guage whether Rains is confident or tossing a 'Hail Mary' on this. I guess we have to stay tuned.

Meanwhile, deal's off for Ellerman, who drew a pretty tough judge. If a new agreement isn't reached and a trial takes place, the Chronicle folks would be asked to testify. But that's highly unlikely.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/06/15/MNG72QFUR31.DTL

At Thursday's hearing, White said Ellerman's actions had damaged the criminal justice system at many levels -- harming grand jury secrecy, frustrating witnesses' expectations of confidentiality, interfering with the BALCO prosecution, forcing prosecutors to chase down the leaks, and smearing agents whom the attorney accused of leaking and lying to investigators, the press and the courts.
 
Ragu,

You make me laugh.

Cranberry,

Some cops on the inside may have turned on Novitzky. Novitzky may have told some lies under penalty of perjury. There may be evidence to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. Is it possible that Novitzky may be indicted and not Bonds?
 
But I read Game of Shadows and it clearly shows that Novitzky is a hero! And you have to believe the book because the writers' sources knew Novitzky so well it was as if they were present for all of the key moments in the narrative, which is a good thing because Novitzky's recording devices kept failing at all the wrong times.
 
Cranberry,

You have a brilliant mind for deductive reasoning. Just think, pretty soon Ragu will be able to use the pages of his book as toilet paper.
 
For those who missed it, Larry McCormack did a live TV interview on CBS 5 at 6 PM after the Ellerman hearing on Thursday. He said that the two Chronicle reporters shared in the accountability for the grand jury leaks and they should also receive some type of consequence. If you recall from an article in The Recorder, McCormack stated that he had personally given evidence from the case directly to Fainaru-Wada. Now that McCormack seems to be grooming himself for the Tonight Show, look for more details about the role of Fainaru-Wada to emerge.
 
creamora said:
For those who missed it, Larry McCormack did a live TV interview on CBS 5 at 6 PM after the Ellerman hearing on Thursday. He said that the two Chronicle reporters shared in the accountability for the grand jury leaks and they should also receive some type of consequence. If you recall from an article in The Recorder, McCormack stated that he had personally given evidence from the case directly to Fainaru-Wada. Now that McCormack seems to be grooming himself for the Tonight Show, look for more details about the role of Fainaru-Wada to emerge.

Outstanding. With Nifong's and now possibly Novitzsky's/MFW's, ... bills coming due, it looks like we finally might be returning to some sort of karmic justice in the sports world.

The article MFW & LW wrote about a week ago on Bonds was a joke, and little more than a last-ditch PR ploy to essentially 'please get Barry before he breaks the record or we'll look like even bigger fools than we already do.'

Right now, that's looking highly unlikely. In fact, it seems right now as if the last hope for that is if Giambi sings. If you think Giambi is going to implicate Bonds, you're crazy.

Bonds is 9 away, Kobe is whining through a pliant Bucher, Nifong is on his way to disbarment, and the Novitzsky/MFW insane clown posse is looking to be going the way of General Custer.

It's a damn, damn good day my friends. Wanna-be MJ's, on-the-hook NBA reporters, joke DA's, vengeful IRS operatives and profit- and glory-hungry reporters have been put on notice. Here, here.
 
After hearing the audio of the Larry McCormack interview on CBS again, here is more precisely what he said, "There is definitely culpability on the part of the reporters. The reporters are guilty of wrongdoing on several levels."
It may be that McCormack will have more to say about Mark Fainaru-Wada's aiding and abetting of the crimes committed by Ellerman. It may also be that there is evidence of obstruction by Fainaru-Wada. This MAY all get very interesting soon.

Also, Michael Rains has let the cat out of the bag already regarding Jeff Novitzky's investigative misconduct being part of the evidence he has turned over to the US Attorney. A sound bite of an interview he recently did was recently aired on CBS. The entire Rains interview will be aired on Sunday night at 11:30 PM on a Bay Area sports show on channel 5. Rains names Novitzky and talks briefly about the type of investigative misconduct involved. It may have something to do with false information provided in the affidavits submitted to obtain the original search warrants. This MAY get very interesting soon, too.

I also find the timing of Kevin Ryan's public statements to the effect that the story is nearing an end to be of interest. Hmmmm. Maybe it's just a coincidence.
 
It seems as though Kevin Ryan thinks the case needs some closure. Could it be that he knows there is a lack of evidence and that they are unable to bring an indictment against Bonds? It's interesting that the Chronicle boys are now helping Ryan announce his prediction of the end of the case on the front page of the Sunday (tomorrow) edition. What happened to all the slam dunk evidence presented in the Game of Fabrication? Is some closure around the corner as Ryan predicts or might it be some exposure?



Prosecutor reflects on BALCO firestorm

These days, in discussing the case, Ryan avoids mentioning Bonds by name. But he predicted that his successor, acting U.S. Attorney Scott Schools, would wrap up BALCO -- and, by implication, the Bonds perjury probe -- relatively soon.

"It's almost been five years," Ryan says. "All things must come to an end. At some time, we have to have closure."

He declined to predict whether Bonds would be indicted.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/17/RYAN.TMP
 
No number of "twists and turns to come" and "could it bes?" and parsing of legal wranglings few people not involved give a crap about, obscures the realities as most people correctly see them, cream. Sorry.

No matter how much you try to shift the spotlight to "the Feds (or Jeff Novitsky) or the media (the SF Chronicle) It's still inescapable that BALCO got busted, the principles involved all went to jail as drug dealers, and the evidence--combined with ridiculous corroborating evidence of his usage--shows that for at least a time, BALCO was supplying Barry Bonds with performance-enhancing drugs that he lied about using under oath.

It all sort of begins and ends with that for people, cream. The sophistry doesn't change it and it doesn't take anyone's eye off the ball. How about instead of another "Could Jeff Novitsky be hiding dead cats under his bed?" post, you address what we DO know. Was BALCO dealing steroids to athletes? Was Barry Bonds one of those athletes? And if you say no (and it would be a lie if you said no), why was Greg Anderson keeping detailed doping calendars documenting his use? Did all of the principles involved with the BALCO case plead guilty and go to jail and now carry the label of "convicted felon" around with them?

Those are all things that DON'T require the mental gymnastics of your "could bes" that are simply meant to stain the people who had the temerity to shed light on the athletes who got caught and the drug dealers who were supplying them.
 

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