2014 NBA Coaching Carousel thread

[LongTimeListener]

Yep, yep, Warriors fire Mark Jackson, who is only too happy to be fired.

One big issue was him supposedly keeping his full-time home in L.A., where his ministry is also based. Hello Lakers.

I suspect Jermaine Jackson has a better shot at the Lakers job than Mark Jackson.

Why? He did a good job at Golden State, players always like him, and the Lakers' wish list seems to be diverging from the reality of who is going to be interested.

 

[Webster]

It sounded like the situation was toxic, but he took a team without its starting center to a competitive 7th game. Hard to say that they underachieved.

 

[HanSenSE]

Yes, it's the NBA, but back-to-back playoff appearances = fired? I don't know if another coach could have taken them further? I'm amazed they took the Clippers to 7 w/o Bogut. Yet, I see the names of all the usual suspects being tossed around as replacement, if they dare step into this vipers den. I see Don Nelson grabbing another brew in Maui and laughing.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Yep, yep, Warriors fire Mark Jackson, who is only too happy to be fired.

One big issue was him supposedly keeping his full-time home in L.A., where his ministry is also based. Hello Lakers.

I suspect Jermaine Jackson has a better shot at the Lakers job than Mark Jackson.

Why? He did a good job at Golden State, players always like him, and the Lakers' wish list seems to be diverging from the reality of who is going to be interested.

From everything I've seen, management and his own staff hated his guts, and his act was starting to wear thin with players, too. I think he may wait a while for the next coaching gig.

The Lakers can do better. The roster is **** right now, but they're still the Lakers.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Yep, yep, Warriors fire Mark Jackson, who is only too happy to be fired.

One big issue was him supposedly keeping his full-time home in L.A., where his ministry is also based. Hello Lakers.

I suspect Jermaine Jackson has a better shot at the Lakers job than Mark Jackson.

Why? He did a good job at Golden State, players always like him, and the Lakers' wish list seems to be diverging from the reality of who is going to be interested.

From everything I've seen, management and his own staff hated his guts, and his act was starting to wear thin with players, too. I think he may wait a while for the next coaching gig.

The Lakers can do better. The roster is **** right now, but they're still the Lakers.

What you're hearing is correct, but I think there's an equal chance that management consists of meddling owners who think they're playing fantasy basketball, nepotism (Lacob's son has far too much influence), and a GM in Bob Myers who is a former agent and one of those names that ascends in NBA circles just because he's a guy to know.

I don't know if that is the case. I do know that from the outside, it's as reasonable an interpretation as one that says it was Jackson's inability to work and play well with others that caused the rift.

 

[HanSenSE]

Yep, yep, Warriors fire Mark Jackson, who is only too happy to be fired.

One big issue was him supposedly keeping his full-time home in L.A., where his ministry is also based. Hello Lakers.

I suspect Jermaine Jackson has a better shot at the Lakers job than Mark Jackson.

Why? He did a good job at Golden State, players always like him, and the Lakers' wish list seems to be diverging from the reality of who is going to be interested.

From everything I've seen, management and his own staff hated his guts, and his act was starting to wear thin with players, too. I think he may wait a while for the next coaching gig.

The Lakers can do better. The roster is **** right now, but they're still the Lakers.

That's the biggest problem for whoever takes over in LA. The team is a candidate for Extreme NBA Makeovers, but will likely do whatever Kobe wants instead. That, and I don't think you can do a major rebuilding project in LA and keep the fans happy, especially with the Clippers on the rise.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Yep, yep, Warriors fire Mark Jackson, who is only too happy to be fired.

One big issue was him supposedly keeping his full-time home in L.A., where his ministry is also based. Hello Lakers.

I suspect Jermaine Jackson has a better shot at the Lakers job than Mark Jackson.

Why? He did a good job at Golden State, players always like him, and the Lakers' wish list seems to be diverging from the reality of who is going to be interested.

From everything I've seen, management and his own staff hated his guts, and his act was starting to wear thin with players, too. I think he may wait a while for the next coaching gig.

The Lakers can do better. The roster is **** right now, but they're still the Lakers.

That's the biggest problem for whoever takes over in LA. The team is a candidate for Extreme NBA Makeovers, but will likely do whatever Kobe wants instead. That, and I don't think you can do a major rebuilding project in LA and keep the fans happy, especially with the Clippers on the rise.

I doubt Kobe has much say at this point. He has no leverage, and they have no reason to worry about whether he's happy. He's a salary cap albatross for two years, totally untradeable and done when the contract ends.

I could be wrong, but if I'm the Lakers, Kobe's input means nothing to me now.

 

[Bob Cook]

You'll see Mark Jackson back on TV next year with his mentor in good-coach-who-wears-out-his-welcome-in-a-hurry, Doug Collins.

 

[Bob Cook]

Well call me Nostra-****in-domus.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014/05/mark-jackson-unlikely-to-rejoin-espn-this-year-but-net-open-to-return/

 

[LongTimeListener]

Tim Kawakami ‏@timkawakami 1h
Mark Jackson knew this was coming, or probably was coming. To me before Game 6: "You want a good view for the end of the run."

 

[Mark2010]

Yep, yep, Warriors fire Mark Jackson, who is only too happy to be fired.

One big issue was him supposedly keeping his full-time home in L.A., where his ministry is also based. Hello Lakers.

Why? Record-wise, the Warriors did better with Jackson than with any of the half dozen guys before him.

I still think there's a chance Doc Rivers winds up with the Lakers.

 

[Pancamo]

I saw reports that said Jackson was lazy and unprepared. I wonder if the fired assistant coach was taping conversations because Jackson was forcing his beliefs on people who didn't want to hear it.

 

[wicked]

Great term to use with a black coach when you want to get rid of him, "lazy." Same was done with Al Skinner at Boston College.

Reminds me of a plantation society, where only the white folk are "scrappy" and "hard-working."

 

[YankeeFan]

Great term to use with a black coach when you want to get rid of him, "lazy." Same was done with Al Skinner at Boston College.

Reminds me of a plantation society, where only the white folk are "scrappy" and "hard-working."

Ugh.

I have no idea if Mark Jackson was "lazy", but what if he was? Stereotypes suck, but sometimes African-American guys are lazy, and white guys are scrappy.

The key is to not default to stereotypes without any evidence.

Now, granted, Pancamo didn't present any evidence, but if there are "reports" out there saying such, it's worthy of discussion, and hopefully the reports give some examples.

Either way, it was clearly dysfunctional. When one assistant doesn't talk to you, and another is taping you, something is wrong. You have to be curious about what is on tape, and if they'll ever see the light of day.

 

[qtlaw]

As a lifelong Ws fan, I thank MJax for coaching the Ws to back to back playoff appearances and for actually caring and playing D. That was something that was sorely missed around here for the past 20 years. He also got his players to play hard for him and apparently had not tuned him out (although there's a vague rumour circulating that the players were not as universal in their support as appeared in print)

From the stands, it looked like his game end offense was too predictable and ineffective (post up Barnes, the 6-7th best offensive option); especially when you had a 1st (or 2nd) team ALL-NBA player standing in the corner.

The criticism of Lacob as a "fantasy sports" owner may be legit but he's made (or presided over) the following decisions:

1. Hired MJax;
2. Trade small Monta for big, legitimate center, Bogut (key to last year's playoff run);
3. Hired GM Myers who has done well;
4. Laid plans to move the W's over to SF

Lacob has transformed the Ws from a franchise that players avoided to one that is a destination point. He's shown himself to be a bright strategist and I have faith in him making the right decision.

 

[wicked]

I'm just curious as to why a white coach has never been called lazy, that's all. (And no, I'm not trying to get the thread locked, it's a legit question, though.)

 

[Jake_Taylor]

Not exactly high profile, but Ted Woodward was called lazy by a few people before getting canned at Maine.

 

[Bubbler]

As a lifelong Ws fan, I thank MJax for coaching the Ws to back to back playoff appearances and for actually caring and playing D. That was something that was sorely missed around here for the past 20 years. He also got his players to play hard for him and apparently had not tuned him out (although there's a vague rumour circulating that the players were not as universal in their support as appeared in print)

From the stands, it looked like his game end offense was too predictable and ineffective (post up Barnes, the 6-7th best offensive option); especially when you had a 1st (or 2nd) team ALL-NBA player standing in the corner.

The criticism of Lacob as a "fantasy sports" owner may be legit but he's made (or presided over) the following decisions:

1. Hired MJax;
2. Trade small Monta for big, legitimate center, Bogut (key to last year's playoff run);
3. Hired GM Myers who has done well;
4. Laid plans to move the W's over to SF

Lacob has transformed the Ws from a franchise that players avoided to one that is a destination point. He's shown himself to be a bright strategist and I have faith in him making the right decision.

MJax? Is it too much to actually spell out his name?

Having covered him some as a player, I always thought Jackson was two-faced and phony. Just one man's opinion.

 

[Bubbler]

In the NBA, you can win coach of the year and get canned. You can win a playoff series and get canned. That's very rare in other sports.

But enough about Frank Vogel.

 

[YankeeFan]

Having covered him some as a player, I always thought Jackson was two-faced and phony. Just one man's opinion.

He did some meet and greet, community/sponsorship relations type work for the Knicks when I dealt with them. Felt the same way about him.