College football week 15 thread: Brutus of Spanish Leather

[Roscablo]

All this talk about no championship games and all the tie-breakers and everything else, but with how bloated the conferences are, the tie-breakers for no championship games would be mind-numbing and I can only imagine the chaos.

Plus, it wouldn't help Miami this year anyway as they would have still finished in a tie for second. Virginia on the other hand would be in the playoff without a title game.

 

[micropolitan guy]

Florida State

I did not know FSU was an all-women's school at one time. Thank you! Had to be a long, long time ago.

 

[micropolitan guy]

All this talk about no championship games and all the tie-breakers and everything else, but with how bloated the conferences are, the tie-breakers for no championship games would be mind-numbing and I can only imagine the chaos.

Plus, it wouldn't help Miami this year anyway as they would have still finished in a tie for second. Virginia on the other hand would be in the playoff without a title game.

Nine conference games will help. Would have gone a long way toward fixing the logjams in the ACC, MAC and MWC that resulted in goofy tie-breaking rules sending lesser teams to the championship game in each league.

 

[dixiehack]

I did not know FSU was an all-women's school at one time. Thank you! Had to be a long, long time ago.

I don’t think they changed over until after World War II. One of the reasons FSU gets squeamish about not being able to compete with the cream of the crop is not having extra generations of sports giving build upon itself. It was really a big deal to them at the start of the 2000s, though I imagine the effects are fading with time.

 

[HanSenSE]

Nine conference games will help. Would have gone a long way toward fixing the logjams in the ACC, MAC and MWC that resulted in goofy tie-breaking rules sending lesser teams to the championship game in each league.

The MW will have to come up with something more than the current system of Whatever Boise Wants.

 

[Flip Wilson]

West Texas beat Arkansas Tech 28-27 in the Heritage Bowl in Corsicana. All I got.

That’s like 45 minutes from me, and I’ve never heard of it until right now.

 

[tapintoamerica]

I don’t think they changed over until after World War II. One of the reasons FSU gets squeamish about not being able to compete with the cream of the crop is not having extra generations of sports giving build upon itself. It was really a big deal to them at the start of the 2000s, though I imagine the effects are fading with time.

I think 1947 was the year they went coed. It ultimately explains why they didn't whack Norvell. Not enough generational money to do what ATM did to Jimbo, who, by the way, says he wants back in the business but who appears likely to remain on the couch.

 

[tapintoamerica]

Holy mother****ing ****. Indiana won the Big Ten and is the No. 1 team in the country.

And they deserve it.
Won at Oregon and vs Ohio State on a neutral field.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

Holy **** this is really happening.

Yeah ... Indiana and Duke DO realize this is December and not March, correct?

(Just got back from watching the Duke-Virginia game with family. Eh, since we had season tickets and made every home game, had to see this through. Blue Devils don't do anything easy ... but still, first ACC title since 1962? And Indiana last won the Big Ten in 1945?)

 

[Sam Mills 51]

Congratulations @Sam Mills 51

It’s official. Our fourth President has made a deal with the Devils.

Yeah. Taking it, anyway.

I know people are still up in arms, but Duke got in on the fifth tiebreaker.

Here's the thing ... we saw that game in Durham. Biggest turd the Blue Devils dropped all season (forget the upper-decking jokes, folks ... there isn't one in Wallace Wade Stadium).

If it was David vs. Goliath, then Duke brought extra stones and an extra-large slingshot. And didn't stop until the end.

 

[MileHigh]

Was at high school championships today, but good on Indiana. Pretty cool. As the No. 1 team they get to pick the location for their quarterfinal and they most certainly will pick Granddaddy, which will be cool to see (but an end-of-game sunset instead of the third quarter).

 

[tapintoamerica]

Yeah ... Indiana and Duke DO realize this is December and not March, correct?

(Just got back from watching the Duke-Virginia game with family. Eh, since we had season tickets and made every home game, had to see this through. Blue Devils don't do anything easy ... but still, first ACC title since 1962? And Indiana last won the Big Ten in 1945?)

First outright title since 1962. Shared the 1989 title with Virginia. Spurrier's final year, when his team crushed Carolina in Chapel Hill and hurried to the corner of an end zone to secure a photo in front of an auxiliary scoreboard. UNC removed those auxiliary scoreboards before the next season.

 

[DanOregon]

I wouldn't put Alabama in. It isn't just the loss and the performance today, it's the injuries too. The shaky win over Auburn didn't help. They look like a third-tier SEC team to me. And I'd be fine with giving Texas, Oklahoma's spot. They are pretty much the same team at this point and head-to-head should matter, and OK's offense is feeble at this point. Oklahoma didn't deserve as much juice from the Bama win as they got.

My field.
Indiana v. winner of Oregon-Tulane
Georgia v. winner of Ole Miss-JMU
Texas Tech v. winner of Texas A&M and Miami
Ohio State v. winner of Oklahoma-ND

Though I wonder if the poohbahs will try to avoid rematches for bowl games and conference v. conference matches, flipping Oregon and Ole Miss. I figure the "tweak" next year will be reseeding after every round, so the top seeds always play the lowest remaining team.

I don't understand the love for BYU. They are a good team, but it isn't like the Big 12 had a great non-conference win. The complete list of Big 12 P4 non-conference wins is: Stanford, UCLA, Iowa, North Carolina (2), SMU (2), Pitt. ZERO teams who are currently ranked. Six of their 8 total against the ACC. Texas Tech played Kent State (coach fired). Oregon State (coach fired); BYU played Portland State (coach fired), Stanford (Coach fired); Utah played UCLA (coach fired), and Cal Poly (coach fired).

 

[Sam Mills 51]

First outright title since 1962. Shared the 1989 title with Virginia. Spurrier's final year, when his team crushed Carolina in Chapel Hill and hurried to the corner of an end zone to secure a photo in front of an auxiliary scoreboard. UNC removed those auxiliary scoreboards before the next season.

Yeah, know that story. I was in Kenan for that game ... so-called fans scurried out of there almost as quickly as they did for most of Belichick's highly disciplined performances.

 

[tapintoamerica]

Yeah. Taking it, anyway.

I know people are still up in arms, but Duke got in on the fifth tiebreaker.

Here's the thing ... we saw that game in Durham. Biggest turd the Blue Devils dropped all season (forget the upper-decking jokes, folks ... there isn't one in Wallace Wade Stadium).

If it was David vs. Goliath, then Duke brought extra stones and an extra-large slingshot. And didn't stop until the end.

They played with the gumption of an underdog and won because of that mindset. There was never a moment when Virginia was in control. The better team won.

 

[Here me roar]

There was a point mid-season where Alabama found some toughness and Simpson was playing as well as anybody. But they did not sustain it and they limped to the end of the season. They are not a playoff team. Roll Tide but they need to roll out of this picture.

 

[Batman]

Yeah ... Indiana and Duke DO realize this is December and not March, correct?

(Just got back from watching the Duke-Virginia game with family. Eh, since we had season tickets and made every home game, had to see this through. Blue Devils don't do anything easy ... but still, first ACC title since 1962? And Indiana last won the Big Ten in 1945?)

And Texas Tech gets its first outright title since 1955, when it was in the Border Conference.

 

[tapintoamerica]

Yeah, know that story. I was in Kenan for that game ... so-called fans scurried out of there almost as quickly as they did for most of Belichick's highly disciplined performances.

Still chasing its first ACC title since 1980.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

They played with the gumption of an underdog and won because of that mindset. There was never a moment when Virginia was in control. The better team won.

They played like a team that had nothing to lose ... that was playing with house money. A win wasn't going to get them into the CFP. But still, a ring game, a cap-and-T-shirt game for its first conference crown in more than 60 years.

The Duke alum in my family knew the realities. What I was more worried about was her husband, who is trying to be supportive but lives and dies with this more than she does (OTOH, the poster typing this is more like a sportswriter in terms of not going too far one way or another). He hasn't been feeling the best - and they white-knuckled their way through the Duke-Michigan State men's basketball game earlier Saturday, so it was not an easy day.

 

[BTExpress]

Death, taxes, and the Vortex of Domination and All Other Things Almighty Protection League.

Works both ways, my friend.

Except no one is banging the drum for Alabama here. You're arguing with air.