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2muchcoffeeman said:
Anybody else completely unimpressed by Boise the other night? I thought they looked like they're good enough to win the championship ... of Conference USA. I have 'em at 8, but I'm rethinking it. What Tulsa presented shouldn't have even slowed a real title contender down.

Every team has off nights. Boise's didn't result in a loss.
 
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2muchcoffeeman said:
Anybody else completely unimpressed by Boise the other night? I thought they looked like they're good enough to win the championship ... of Conference USA. I have 'em at 8, but I'm rethinking it. What Tulsa presented shouldn't have even slowed a real title contender down.

Utah beat Weber State 37-21 last year, and I still think they might have deserved the national championship because the resume merited it. Boise State has beaten Fresno State and Miami (Ohio) more soundly than Cincy has this season, and some people view Cincy as a top-five team.
 
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Oz said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Anybody else completely unimpressed by Boise the other night? I thought they looked like they're good enough to win the championship ... of Conference USA. I have 'em at 8, but I'm rethinking it. What Tulsa presented shouldn't have even slowed a real title contender down.

Utah beat Weber State 37-21 last year, and I still think they might have deserved the national championship because the resume merited it. Boise State has beaten Fresno State and Miami (Ohio) more soundly than Cincy has this season, and some people view Cincy as a top-five team.

If everything holds to form the rest of the night, how will you treat Boise's win against Tulsa?
 
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Would it be too much of a stretch for me to jump Alabama two spots to No. 1 this week?
 
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Mystery Meat II said:
Oz said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Anybody else completely unimpressed by Boise the other night? I thought they looked like they're good enough to win the championship ... of Conference USA. I have 'em at 8, but I'm rethinking it. What Tulsa presented shouldn't have even slowed a real title contender down.

Utah beat Weber State 37-21 last year, and I still think they might have deserved the national championship because the resume merited it. Boise State has beaten Fresno State and Miami (Ohio) more soundly than Cincy has this season, and some people view Cincy as a top-five team.

If everything holds to form the rest of the night, how will you treat Boise's win against Tulsa?

I dropped Boise State one spot. Iowa (wins at 6-1 Penn State and 5-2 Wisconsin; beat 4-2 Arizona and 5-2 Michigan) and TCU (wins at 3-3 Clemson and 3-3 Virginia) have better resumes, but it's not like I'm jumping a one-loss team above the Broncos.

Texas Tech (22nd) and Arizona (25th) moved in, Oklahoma (22nd) and Auburn (24th) dropped out.

1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. Iowa
5. Texas Christian
6. Boise State
7. Southern California
8. Miami, Fla.
9. Cincinnati
10. Louisiana State
11. Oregon
12. Georgia Tech
13. Virginia Tech
14. Penn State
15. Brigham Young
16. Houston
17. Oklahoma State
18. Utah
19. Kansas
20. South Florida
21. Ohio State
22. Texas Tech
23. Nebraska
24. West Virginia
25. Arizona
 
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1. Florida (0)
2. Alabama (0)
3. Texas (0)
4. Cincinnati
5. Boise State (0)
6. Iowa (+3)
7. TCU (+1)
8. LSU (+2)
9. Oregon (+4)
10. Penn State (+4)
11. Southern Cal (+4)
12. Miami (Fla.) (+5)
13. Georgia Tech (+10)
14. South Florida (-7)
15. Utah (NR)
16. BYU (+2)
17. Virginia Tech (-6)
18. Houston (+3)
19. Oklahoma State (+5)
20. Pittsburgh (NR)
21. Texas Tech (NR)
22. West Virginia (NR)
23. Notre Dame (NR)
24. Arizona (NR)
25. Central Michigan (NR)

Dropped out: Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Missouri, South Carolina, Ohio State, Nebraska, Kansas.
 
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Re: 2009 SportsJournalists.com College Football Poll -- 10/12/2009 Page 14

My poll:

1. Alabama LW 2
2. Florida 1
3. Texas 3
4. Cincinnati 7
5. USC 6
6. TCU 9
7. Iowa 12
8. Boise St. 5
9. Miami 10
10. LSU 11
11. Oregon 14
12. Okie St. 16
13. Penn St. 15
14. BYU 17
15. Va Tech 4
16. Houston 20
17. Georgia Tech 24
18. Pitt 23
19. Utah 25
20. Texas Tech NR
21. Ohio St. 8
22. Central Michigan NR
23. Idaho NR
24. Kansas 13
25. South Florida 19

I don't think there were teams deserving past Texas Tech, FWIW.
 
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Lots of juggling this week for me. Not very pleasant after about 16:

Team Pvs
1. Alabama 3
2. Florida 1
3. Texas 2
4. Boise State 5
5. Iowa 8
6. Cincinnati 13
7. USC 6
8. TCU 9
9. Miami 11
10. LSU 10
11. Oregon 16
12. Penn State 12
13. Georgia Tech 23
14. Oklahoma State 17
15. Utah 21
16. BYU 20
17. Virginia Tech 4
18. Houston NR
19. Texas Tech NR
20. Pittsburgh NR
21. Ole Miss 22
22. Ohio State 7
23. West Virginia NR
24. Nebraska 14
25. South Carolina 24

Fell out: Kansas (pvs 15), USF (18), Oklahoma (19), Wisconsin (25)
 
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1. Florida (1)
2. Alabama (3)
3. Texas (2)
4. USC (4)
5. Boise (7)
6. TCU ( 8 )
7. Cinci (9)
8. Iowa (10)
9. LSU (11)
10. Oklahoma State (12)
11. Miami (Fla) (13)
12. Georgia Tech (17)
13. Penn State (14)
14. Oregon (15)
15. Utah (20)
16. Virginia Tech (4)
17. BYU (21)
18. Pitt (24)
19. Ohio State (5)
20. WVU (25)
21. Kansas (18)
22. Texas Tech NR
23. Houston NR
24. Nebraska (15)
25. South Florida (22)
 
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None of the "big three" were impressive yesterday, but Florida shouldn't be pushed by Arkansas at home. 'Bama, who I think is slightly overrated, gets the nod over them. People are going to knock Texas for beating Oklahoma by three, but Christ, it's a rivalry game on a neutral field.

And vaya con dios Badgers. Wisconsin hung in there in my poll far longer than I thought they would.

1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. Florida
4. Boise State
5. TCU
6. Cincinnati
7. Iowa
8. USC
9. Oklahoma State
10. Oregon
11. LSU
12. BYU
13. Utah
14. Miami
15. Georgia Tech
16. Houston
17. Kansas
18. South Florida
19. Virginia Tech
20. West Virginia
21. Pitt
22. Penn State
23. Ohio State
24. South Carolina
25. Idaho
 
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Matt1735
Poll Vote
10/18/09

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Boise State
5. Cincinnati
6. Iowa
7. USC
8. LSU
9. Oregon
10. Oklahoma State
11. Georgia Tech
12. Virginia Tech
13. Miami
14. Penn State
15. TCU
16. Ohio State
17. BYU
18. West Virginia
19. Ole Miss
20. Central Michigan
21. Houston
22. Kansas
23. Pitt
24. Utah
25. Michigan
 
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1. Alabama (LW: 3)
2. Florida (1)
3. Texas (2)
4. Southern Cal (5)
5. Boise State (6)
6. Cincinnati (9)
7. Miami (12)
8. Iowa (12)
9. TCU (10)
10. LSU (11)
11. Virginia Tech (4)
12. Georgia Tech (15)
13. BYU ( 8 )
14. Oklahoma State (14)
15. Utah (17)
16. Penn State (19)
17. Oregon (21)
18. Houston (24)
19. Ohio State (7)
20. Texas Tech (UNR)
21. Pittsburgh (UNR)
22. Kansas (16)
23. Mississippi (UNR)
24. Idaho (UNR)
25. West Virginia (UNR)
 
Re: 2009 SportsJournalists.com College Football Poll -- 10/12/2009 Page 14

1, Alabama
2, Florida
3, Texas
4, Iowa
5, USC
6, TCU
7, Boise State
8, Cincinnati
9, Oregon
10, LSU
11, Miami
12, Georgia Tech
13, Penn State
14, Pitt
15, Virginia Tech
16, Oklahoma State
17, BYU
18, West Virginia
19, Central Michigan
20, Utah
21, Texas Tech
22, South Florida
23, Kansas
24, Oklahoma
25, Ohio State
 
Re: 2009 SportsJournalists.com College Football Poll -- And we are missing....

Elliotte Friedman
Starman
Sxysprtswrtr
 
Re: 2009 SportsJournalists.com College Football Poll -- And we are missing....

Oct. 19, 2009

The Song Remains the Same, only
the names have been changed


By SLAPPY4428
Vengant Pollster


Something I read within the last week struck a familiar chord. It was a couple of columnists, one from an transplanted and unabashed ACC fanboi and the other, always a Little Ray of SEC Sunshine, starting to plant the seed of a Florida-Alabama rematch in the BCS title game even before either team has qualified for the true national championship game – the SEC Title game.

And I started getting pissed.

The first writer just planted the seed and started the argument of “Who is greater than the greatest two teams in the greatest conference in the history of the world?” (I might be embellishing this quote a teensy bit.)

And he ticked off every possibility and said why they aren’t better under any circumstances than the two SEC teams.

The one thing he did say, after discounting every other Division I team in America other than Eastern Michigan and Florida International, was it would be up to the voters and whether or not they could stomach a Florida-Alabama rematch.

Now that one writer has greased the skids, that brings me to the other guy. He’s a Harris voter, which makes up part of the formula to determine whether or not America could stomach a rematch.

In 2006, his position was clear after No. 1 Ohio State beat No. 2 Michigan, 41-38. The communist said that Michigan was never an option for him for a lot of reasons – the biggest was that U-M had its bite at the apple and couldn’t deliver. And that's a very sound argument.

Let us fast-forward four seasons, when the pairing of surrendering the championship to an SEC rematch looms like the onset of gray hair, middle-age spread and prostate issues. They might come, they might not – but you know it’s a possibility.

Why would it not be acceptable for some to handle the possibility of an all-Big Ten game in 2006, but start the drumbeat for the SEC in 2009? Simple. Regional bias. The same writer didn’t drop LSU a lick after losing to Florida, but undefeated Iowa didn’t crack the top 10.

This is going to be our great battle this season, boys and girls. It’s going to have nothing to do with teams deserving to play in the championship game – and as history tells us, Florida turned out to be just fine in 2006. But it will be the SEC whining in 2009, just as the Big 12 did in 2008 and the Big 10 did in 2006.

Assuming everything plays out, it’s going to be payback for 2006. And when SEC backers cry foul, all they have to do is think back to this little bit of prophecy by one of the league’s biggest backers.

“There are too many good teams from too many good leagues that have played too many good games to surrender the championship to a Big Ten rematch, simply because two Big Ten teams put on a show Saturday afternoon,” opined the Harris voter.

“It's tough enough when all the top teams don't play each other. The last thing I want to see is a rematch.”

SportsJournalists.com COLLEGE FOOTBALL POLL
10/19/2009
RK. TEAM (1st) PTS Last

1. Florida (15) 800 1
2. Alabama (14) 797 2
3. Texas (2) 769 3
4 . USC 679 6
5. Boise State 670 5
6. Cincinnati 636 8
7. Iowa 632 11
8. Texas Christian 583 9
9. LSU 539 10
10. Miami (Fla.) 522 13
11. Oregon 486 12
12. Oklahoma St. 442 14
13. Georgia Tech 423 20
14. Penn State 401 15
15. BYU 388 18
16. Virginia Tech 359 4
17. Utah 253 22
18 Houston 232 24
19. Pitt 181 NR
tie. Ohio State 181 7
21. Texas Tech 143 NR
22. Kansas 119 16
23. West Virginia 106 NR
24. South Florida 97 19
25. Central Michigan 60 NR
Also receiving votes: Nebraska 42, South Carolina 37, Notre Dame 33, Mississippi 29, Oklahoma 22, Idaho 16, Arizona 12, Cal 11, Oregon State 8, Michigan 7, Navy 6, North Carolina 4.


The SportsJournalists.com college football poll committee: Slappy4428 (chairman), 2muchcoffeeman, Agate Page, Azom, Bubbler BYH, Della9250, Diabeetus, Dparker85, GB-Hack, Hammer Pants, Hank Scorpio, Huggy, Ishouldcoco, Jesus Muscatel, Joe Schmoe, KYsportswriter, Layman, Madhavok, Matt1735, Orville Redenbacher, Oz, Piotr Rasputin, Popedirkbenedict, Precious Roy, Red Smith Clone, Rockbottom, Rumpleforeskin, spnited, Stormsurge, Trooper Bari, WS, Songbird. Not Voting: Elliotte Friedman, Starman, Sxysptswrtr.
 
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My joy for Oklahoma not making it is tempered only by michSportsJournalists.com putting Central Michigan in.
 
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dooley_womack1 said:
My joy for Oklahoma not making it is tempered only by michSportsJournalists.com putting Central Michigan in.

Well, let's see... of the 13 voters who put the Chippies on the ballot...
One has been voting them middle of the pack for weeks and doesn't have the obvious tie (if he does I don't know about it).
And I can only see two others with Michigan ties -- and I went to Western and the other Eastern. Neither one of us has kind things to say about the Chippies, ever. Yet we put them in the top 25....
 
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slappy4428 said:
And I can only see two others with Michigan ties -- and I went to Western and the other Eastern. Neither one of us has kind things to say about the Chippies, ever. Yet we put them in the top 25....

But averaging a Western grad and an Eastern grad gets you a Chippie, I think.
 
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Mystery Meat II said:
slappy4428 said:
And I can only see two others with Michigan ties -- and I went to Western and the other Eastern. Neither one of us has kind things to say about the Chippies, ever. Yet we put them in the top 25....

But averaging a Western grad and an Eastern grad gets you a Chippie, I think.

See, thought patterns like this are why you aren't in the poll....
 

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