Boom_70 said:Got anything on Afghanistan since this is what thread is about?
No, because pretty much nobody from that side of the aisle had ever called for withdrawal from Afghanistan until recently.
Boom_70 said:Got anything on Afghanistan since this is what thread is about?
Sleeper said:Boom_70 said:Got anything on Afghanistan since this is what thread is about?
No, because pretty much nobody from that side of the aisle had ever called for withdrawal from Afghanistan until recently.
Azrael said:Apple, 2003, http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Apple_(AAPL)/Data/Revenue/2003
Orange, 2011 http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/03/idUS49380+03-May-2011+HUG20110503
Boom_70 said:2003 Bush tab for Afghanistan $14 bil
2011 Obama tab $112 bil
Bamadog said:South Korea can take care of itself. I can see a reason for us to have bases in Japan, but Europe?
Justin_Rice said:Bamadog said:South Korea can take care of itself. I can see a reason for us to have bases in Japan, but Europe?
When people say, "bring the troops home," I'm not sure they realize.
Bases in Europe, the Indian Ocean, the Middle East and in Asia are necessary if we want to be able to project power globally.
Our navy needs ports. Our air force needs bases and in-flight refuelling. Our army needs pre-stagged equipment (Because moving an M1A1 is difficult!).
So I'm not judging whether or not we need bases in Europe or Japan or Korea .... but if we give those up, we give up our ability to respond to situations across the globe.
britwrit said:That's the trouble. Our military has grown into playing two roles. One is protecting and defending America (and its interests) around the world. The other is a subsidizing the defense/high tech sector, as well as providing a permanent Keynesian stimulus.
How do we change that? I don't know? At least, to start with, being honest about the two roles?
Boom_70 said:britwrit said:That's the trouble. Our military has grown into playing two roles. One is protecting and defending America (and its interests) around the world. The other is a subsidizing the defense/high tech sector, as well as providing a permanent Keynesian stimulus.
How do we change that? I don't know? At least, to start with, being honest about the two roles?
But is it worth sacrificing lives to keep the "military industrial complex" going?
Mizzougrad96 said:Man, you elect a democratic president and he escalates a couple wars and won't make a ruling on gay marriage.
Boom_70 said:The monthly cost to nation build in Afghanistan.
It's time to bring our troops and money home. We need to start nation building at home.
Eugene Robinson nails in in today Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-plan-for-afghanistan-declare-victory--and-leave/2011/06/09/AGz8LrNH_story.html