Running 2015-16 NFL coaching carousel thread

[dixiehack]

And we're off.

 

[bigpern23]

Midseason coaching changes are generally pretty pointless.

 

[Riptide]

Midseason coaching changes are generally pretty pointless.

These early-season changes are more fun anyway.

 

[RubberSoul1979]

If Tomsula goes 1-15 or 2-14, do the 49ers give him the boot? Does his seat flare up to "fire me" levels as this season spirals out of control?

Great description of this in-over-his-head coach today, courtesy of Lowell Cohn (one of the best columnists out here).

"I see Tomsula I want to order a cut of meat. I see him behind the counter of a butcher shop wearing a white apron stained in red blood. He smiles when he sees me and says he has a deal on pork butt. He rubs his bloody hands on his apron and prepares the butt. He handles a game plan like a butcher handles meat. No finesse. Slam. Bang."

 

[Jake_Taylor]

When a college program fires a coach during the season I get it. You can get a start on the search and hope you don't fall too far behind in recruiting. Do pro teams really think they are going to salvage anything by firing a coach in the middle of the season?

 

[bigpern23]

When a college program fires a coach during the season I get it. You can get a start on the search and hope you don't fall too far behind in recruiting. Do pro teams really think they are going to salvage anything by firing a coach in the middle of the season?

Unlike the other pro sports, there's almost no advantage to be gained with a midseason coaching change and, more often than not it actually hurts an already crappy team. NFL schemes are too complicated, and the personnel is usually to0 tailored to the scheme for a new coach to come in and have any meaningful success.

An NBA coach can come in at midseason, light a fire under his team, run some new offense and turn things around. If an NFL coach comes in and tries to put in a new offense in midseason, the team will more likely just nose dive even further.

 

[dixiehack]

If an NFL coach comes in and tries to put in a new offense in midseason, the team will more likely just nose dive even further.

Bet the Dolphins wish they thought of that in the Suck for Luck season.

 

[Tarheel316]

If Tomsula goes 1-15 or 2-14, do the 49ers give him the boot? Does his seat flare up to "fire me" levels as this season spirals out of control?

Great description of this in-over-his-head coach today, courtesy of Lowell Cohn (one of the best columnists out here).

"I see Tomsula I want to order a cut of meat. I see him behind the counter of a butcher shop wearing a white apron stained in red blood. He smiles when he sees me and says he has a deal on pork butt. He rubs his bloody hands on his apron and prepares the butt. He handles a game plan like a butcher handles meat. No finesse. Slam. Bang."

Sure he's in over his head. The guy got promoted from defensive line coach to head coach. It didn't take Jed and Trent long to wreck this team.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Gotta think Lovie is next up.

 

[Bronco77]

Philbin was a below-average head coach, but the Dolphins' problems go far beyond him -- starting with the owner, who should've let Philbin at the end of last season but gave him a contract extension instead (after keeping Jeff Ireland around far too long as GM).

Campbell very well may wind up being in over his head, but I think he'll get that team to at least play with a bit more passion. It's a sad state of affairs when the most memorable hit by someone in a Dolphins uniform this season was Miko Grimes' head-butt of a Miami-Dade cop.

 

[sgreenwell]

Philbin was a below-average head coach, but the Dolphins' problems go far beyond him -- starting with the owner, who should've let Philbin at the end of last season but gave him a contract extension instead (after keeping Jeff Ireland around far too long as GM).

Campbell very well may wind up being in over his head, but I think he'll get that team to at least play with a bit more passion. It's a sad state of affairs when the most memorable hit by someone in a Dolphins uniform this season was Miko Grimes' head-butt of a Miami-Dade cop.

Agree with this. There is some talent on the team, and it seems like they were underperforming. They're 1-3, not 0-6, so they have a tiny chance to recover and make the playoffs, although I believe they have two games left with the Patriots, so good luck.

One thing I did find odd - When was the last time a tight end coach was promoted to head coach?

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Campbell sounds like Mike Tice. Good luck, Miami.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Agree with this. There is some talent on the team, and it seems like they were underperforming. They're 1-3, not 0-6, so they have a tiny chance to recover and make the playoffs, although I believe they have two games left with the Patriots, so good luck.

One thing I did find odd - When was the last time a tight end coach was promoted to head coach?

The Dolphins essentially gave up on the season by installing him as the interim guy.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

It always amused me when Dolphin whiners would ***** that "Dave Wannstedt ruined the Dolphins!" Umm, it's been over a decade. Now what's the excuse?

 

[Bronco77]

It always amused me when Dolphin whiners would ***** that "Dave Wannstedt ruined the Dolphins!" Umm, it's been over a decade. Now what's the excuse?

The excuses are Wayne Huizenga, Nick Saban, Randy Mueller, Cam Cameron, Bill Parcells, Tony Sparano, Jeff Ireland, Stephen Ross, Dawn Aponte, Dennis Hickey, Mike Tannenbaum and Philbin (and I'm probably overlooking a few other passengers in the clown car). In other words, everybody who has been in an ownership/management/head coaching position since Wannstedt.

 

[DanOregon]

I don't think Philbin was that "hands-on" as a hc and it seems clear he hasn't recruited the best staff. (The Incognito stuff really was poorly handled). I don't care how dynamic a candidate is, I wouldn't hire an HC without knowing what kind of staff he would put together. I also wonder if there are issues with Ross. He's been rebuffed by a few sought-after coaches. I don't anticipate having Tannenbaum as GM is going to attract many big names either.

 

[Starman]

Caldwell has to be high on the list at 0-4, but would Bill Ford give Matt Millen protege and apprentice Martin Mayhew a chance to hire a third coaching regime , even as an interim, when you've barely got #2 paid off?

There's every possibility the Lions will go to 0-6 or 0-8. At some point they've got to decide that anyone and everyone in the organization who was ever alone in a room with Millen must be eradicated -- a decision they should have made about 0.02 seconds after the decision to fire Millen.

 

[wicked]

Philbin should've been fired after Incognito. It was clear then that he had no clue what was going on in the locker room.

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Agree on Caldwell.
Chip Kelly wouldn't surprise me. His mad scientist approach to the Iggles isn't working and players - such Murray - are not happy. He makes the turn at 2-6 or 1-7, he's gone.

 

[dixiehack]

Agree on Caldwell.
Chip Kelly wouldn't surprise me. His mad scientist approach to the Iggles isn't working and players - such Murray - are not happy. He makes the turn at 2-6 or 1-7, he's gone.

He may leave anyway. There's a line of colleges a block long willing to promise him public blowjobs for life, and Texas figures to be at the head of said line.