Thank you. You're right. Plus, Ron Dante looked more like Archie.
That is a sweet coiffe. Looks like a big nest of pubes
RIP David Cassidy
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That is a sweet coiffe. Looks like a big nest of pubes
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The common denominator between the Monkees and the Archies was Don Kirshner.
Per Wikipedia:
"In the early 1960s, Kirshner was a successful music publisher as head of his own company, Aldon Music, which later was sold to Screen Gems-Columbia Music. With Al Nevins, Kirshner brought performers such as Bobby Darin together with songwriters and musicians. He'd later became president of COLGEMS, a subsidiary of the COLPIX label, in 1966.
Kirshner was hired by the producers of the Monkees to provide hit-worthy songs to accompany the television program, within a demanding schedule. Kirshner quickly corralled songwriting talent from his Brill Building stable of writers and musicians to create catchy, engaging tracks which the band could pretend to perform on the show. This move was not because of any lack of the Monkees' talent but was required in order to keep up with the demanding schedule to churn out ready-to-go recordings to give each week's episode its own song. While Mike Nesmith and Peter Tork were already experienced musicians – and Davy Jones was an established musical performer – as a working band, they had little experience; and Micky Dolenz was completely new to drums. Each Monkee was retained for vocal duties but they did not actually play instruments on the records.
The formula worked phenomenally well – the singles "Last Train to Clarksville", written by Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart, and "I'm a Believer" and the first two Monkees albums were produced and released in time to catch the initial wave of the television program's popularity. The lead guitar on "Last Train To Clarksville", "Valleri" and the Monkees theme was written and played by Louie Shelton. After a year, the Monkees wanted a chance to play their own instruments on the records. They also wanted additional oversight into which songs would be released as singles. Further, when word belatedly came out that the band had not played on the first season's songs, a controversy arose, and the public expressed a desire to hear the television stars perform their own music."
Kirschner essentially did the same thing with the Archies, except that he took on the producer role as well. He avoided the talent/ego/personality conflicts that he'd had with the Monkees by hiring studio musicians to make the music and having the series star cartoon characters. Boom, no more conflicts. If someone got too cocky about being the "star" they could be fired and replaced. This made things much easier for the producer.
Kirschner later did "Ic Concert", then "Don Kirschner's Rock Concert" as well as being music supervisor for a number of TV series and movies and running record labels.
Per Wikipedia:
"In the early 1960s, Kirshner was a successful music publisher as head of his own company, Aldon Music, which later was sold to Screen Gems-Columbia Music. With Al Nevins, Kirshner brought performers such as Bobby Darin together with songwriters and musicians. He'd later became president of COLGEMS, a subsidiary of the COLPIX label, in 1966.
Kirshner was hired by the producers of the Monkees to provide hit-worthy songs to accompany the television program, within a demanding schedule. Kirshner quickly corralled songwriting talent from his Brill Building stable of writers and musicians to create catchy, engaging tracks which the band could pretend to perform on the show. This move was not because of any lack of the Monkees' talent but was required in order to keep up with the demanding schedule to churn out ready-to-go recordings to give each week's episode its own song. While Mike Nesmith and Peter Tork were already experienced musicians – and Davy Jones was an established musical performer – as a working band, they had little experience; and Micky Dolenz was completely new to drums. Each Monkee was retained for vocal duties but they did not actually play instruments on the records.
The formula worked phenomenally well – the singles "Last Train to Clarksville", written by Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart, and "I'm a Believer" and the first two Monkees albums were produced and released in time to catch the initial wave of the television program's popularity. The lead guitar on "Last Train To Clarksville", "Valleri" and the Monkees theme was written and played by Louie Shelton. After a year, the Monkees wanted a chance to play their own instruments on the records. They also wanted additional oversight into which songs would be released as singles. Further, when word belatedly came out that the band had not played on the first season's songs, a controversy arose, and the public expressed a desire to hear the television stars perform their own music."
Kirschner essentially did the same thing with the Archies, except that he took on the producer role as well. He avoided the talent/ego/personality conflicts that he'd had with the Monkees by hiring studio musicians to make the music and having the series star cartoon characters. Boom, no more conflicts. If someone got too cocky about being the "star" they could be fired and replaced. This made things much easier for the producer.
Kirschner later did "Ic Concert", then "Don Kirschner's Rock Concert" as well as being music supervisor for a number of TV series and movies and running record labels.
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Thank you. You're right. Plus, Ron Dante looked more like Archie.
I knew I'd seen that 'do before.
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They are fascinating. The Monkees psychedelic movie "Head" was directed by Bob Rafelson and co-written by Jack Nicholson (their next project together was Five Easy Pieces).
Carole King-Gerry Goffin wrote "Pleasant Valley Sunday"
The guy who wrote "Daydream Believer" was a former member of the Kingston Trio.
Two time Oscar winner Paul Mazursky wrote the TV pilot.
Davy Jones appeared in a scene from "Oliver!" (Artful Dodger) on the same episode of the Ed Sullivan Show that introduced the Beatles to the U.S.
Mike Nesmith's mom invented liquid paper.
The show won an Emmy for Outstanding Comedy Series.
And this.
Hell, I half-expected Charles Manson to have turned up at some point. As a guest-star pre-Helter Skelter, of course (the show was cancelled the year before the Tate-LoBianco murders)
PS - Andy Kim gave off a serious Guccione vibe in that photo.
Carole King-Gerry Goffin wrote "Pleasant Valley Sunday"
The guy who wrote "Daydream Believer" was a former member of the Kingston Trio.
Two time Oscar winner Paul Mazursky wrote the TV pilot.
Davy Jones appeared in a scene from "Oliver!" (Artful Dodger) on the same episode of the Ed Sullivan Show that introduced the Beatles to the U.S.
Mike Nesmith's mom invented liquid paper.
The show won an Emmy for Outstanding Comedy Series.
And this.
Hell, I half-expected Charles Manson to have turned up at some point. As a guest-star pre-Helter Skelter, of course (the show was cancelled the year before the Tate-LoBianco murders)
PS - Andy Kim gave off a serious Guccione vibe in that photo.
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Kirschner tapped a lot of Brill Building songwriters for the Monkees. You left off the near perfect, incandescent pop song, "I'm a Believer", written by Neal Diamond.
Lead vocal by Mickey Dolenz.
Lead vocal by Mickey Dolenz.
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Kirshner actually said that he was happy to move on to the Archies because the stars couldn't argue with him. This was after the Monkees refused to do "Sugar Sugar" and Nesmith had his infamous fist-through-the-hotel-wall moment.
This is gold.
This is gold.
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The definitive version.
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I haven’t seen it but I’ll look for it.
This is the weirdest thing I have ever seen on screen. Eraserhead by David Lynch
Eraserhead - Wikipedia
I saw it at the Key Theater in Georgetown many years ago, it played right before the midnight showing of Rocky Horror
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Ha! I almost responded to his post with "Never seen Eraserhead?"
Saw it when I was probably 13 or 14, on a double bill with Tod Browning's "Freaks." It may be weirder than "Freaks", which is saying something.
I've probably seen "Eraserhead" six or seven times. Still couldn't tell you what it's about.
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Part of the, maybe the only, reason they named the movie, Head, was if there was a follow up they could advertise it as "from the people who gave you Head."
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True story: I saw the title of this thread and thought: "Oh David Crosby, in total organ failure. That makes sense."
Nope David Cassidy. Who is 9 years younger that Crosby... who will obviously live forever on borrowed organs, and the most potent weed.
Nope David Cassidy. Who is 9 years younger that Crosby... who will obviously live forever on borrowed organs, and the most potent weed.
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THAT is the song that kept making it onto my mix CDs. I thought that was a great song. And Dolenz mugging through that performance ... hilarious.
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Yeah, that's as good an explanation as I've heard.
(You think the film is as weird as it could possibly get.... and then the baby shows up.)
