Republicans In '08 -- Base Jumping

[Fenian_Bastard]

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That a rich, handsome, relatively successful governor of a northern state still feels he has to pander this gracelessly to an extremist "base" that's already taken the party over the cliff in one election seems to me to be an indication of a party in some turmoil.
Jesus, Mitt. Give it up.

 

[Mighty_Wingman]

Wait...the gun lobby "has taken the (Republican) party over the cliff?"

And pandering to gun enthusiasts is nothing new, though it's rare for any candidate to do it as incompetently as Romney. Of course, he was a no-hoper from the start, though for some reason people felt the need to pretend he had a chance.

 

[leo1]

romney has raised $21 million this year. anyone who says he doesn't have a chance is delusional. calling him a "no hoper" is absurd.

 

[Mystery_Meat]

Isn't a Republican who won in New England pretty much their wet dream?

 

[JackyJackBN]

Isn't a Republican who won in New England pretty much their wet dream?

No, a Republican who can carry the South, California and New York is their wet dream. Likewise the Democrats.

 

[Mighty_Wingman]

A Republican who can win is the dream, one assumes.

And leo, last time I checked, electoral votes weren't handed out during the first quarter of early fundraising season. Romney's at his high-water mark. I'd be surprised if anyone on the Republican side seriously believes he has a chance to be the party's nominee, though it would certainly be a treat for the Dems.

 

[SCEditor]

Yeah, because the Republicans are the only ones pandering.

 

[Lamar Mundane]

Posting photo op pictures of Kerry with a gun? what a gas!

He carried a gun in Vietnam. Got shrapnel too. How about Mitt? Guiliani? W? ****? Rummie? Rush? Delay?

How about I shot my boy Blue in the face Cheney?

Republicans are the greatest Shaman in history! Play the part, Cowboy PResident who whose intellectual incuriousity has got us bogged down four years after Mission Accomplished with no end in sight.

Will Mitt campaign with W in Oct. 2008?

Cowards the lot of ya. Criticizing Kerry for a photo op. Get real.

Matt Dowd, W's pollboy, said the Lt. was dead on about Iraq. What's W's exit strategy for Iraq? Just admit he's running out the clock, sending more of our bravest to Arlington, and passing the buck to Bill Richardson.

W failed to strike oil in Texas, his Saudi buddies bailed him out. W's yella belly was exposed during the Vietnam War, his daddy got him in the champagne airforce training on an obsolete plane.

SOS.

 

[Mighty_Wingman]

Wow.

Just so you know, I think you might have missed my point.

 

[SportsDude]

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That a rich, handsome, relatively successful governor of a northern state still feels he has to pander this gracelessly to an extremist "base" that's already taken the party over the cliff in one election seems to me to be an indication of a party in some turmoil.
Jesus, Mitt. Give it up.

Yeah, that base that believes in small government, low taxes and gun rights. Extremists to the hilt. They carried Reagan down the slippery slope to hell, didn't they?

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003568720

That a rich, handsome, relatively successful governor of a northern state still feels he has to pander this gracelessly to an extremist "base" that's already taken the party over the cliff in one election seems to me to be an indication of a party in some turmoil.
Jesus, Mitt. Give it up.

Yeah, that base that believes in small government, low taxes and gun rights. Extremists to the hilt. They carried Reagan down the slippery slope to hell, didn't they?

Gee, 1984 was fun.
Guys, you both know what I'm talking about -- the marginal, theocratic Southern base of the party has hijacked the whole schmear, and it no longer sells nationwide. Now, the fact that it locked in behind a feckless incompetent and his evil VP has something to do with it, but it also has to do with the whipping on Social Security, the Schiavo fiasco, the Katrina debacle, and everything that's come out since the 2006 midterms. By all rational measures, Romney ought to be able to run nationally as the Mitt he ran as in Massachusetts. But he can't get the nomination doing that, and everyone knows it. So he has to tie himself in these kind of knots ON EVERY ISSUE -- check out the YouTube when he ran against EMK for the Senate -- just to get midway through the process. That's a problem for the eventual nominee. And anyone who can look at this administration and maintain that it has represented "small government" is on mushrooms.

 

[RokSki]

Fenian, great thread title. And an appropriate one too.

 

[leo1]

A Republican who can win is the dream, one assumes.

And leo, last time I checked, electoral votes weren't handed out during the first quarter of early fundraising season. Romney's at his high-water mark. I'd be surprised if anyone on the Republican side seriously believes he has a chance to be the party's nominee, though it would certainly be a treat for the Dems.

thanks for pointing that out, wingman. i thought electoral votes were handed out in the first quarter of the fundraising season.

you're incredibly naive to dismiss him. i'm neither voting for him (i'm a liberal) nor suggesting he'll win the nomination. at this point, the race is all about money and money keeps you in the race. as of today, his bank account makes him one of the front-runners. if after the third quarter he's suddenly at the bottom of the money list, then we'll know this quarter was a fluke. as of today he's a legitimate contender.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

And he's talking Jeb for VP. Just how much can Mitt suck it? Film at 11.

 

[cortez]

Doesn't Dann Coulter back Romney? That's gotta help

 

[Yawn]

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003568720

That a rich, handsome, relatively successful governor of a northern state still feels he has to pander this gracelessly to an extremist "base" that's already taken the party over the cliff in one election seems to me to be an indication of a party in some turmoil.
Jesus, Mitt. Give it up.

Not until you do first.

****. Only in FenPhen's world can a hunting license be a political issue with his Islamic friends shedding blood.

 

[The Big Ragu]

A Republican who can win is the dream, one assumes.

And leo, last time I checked, electoral votes weren't handed out during the first quarter of early fundraising season. Romney's at his high-water mark. I'd be surprised if anyone on the Republican side seriously believes he has a chance to be the party's nominee, though it would certainly be a treat for the Dems.

thanks for pointing that out, wingman. i thought electoral votes were handed out in the first quarter of the fundraising season.

you're incredibly naive to dismiss him. i'm neither voting for him (i'm a liberal) nor suggesting he'll win the nomination. at this point, the race is all about money and money keeps you in the race. as of today, his bank account makes him one of the front-runners. if after the third quarter he's suddenly at the bottom of the money list, then we'll know this quarter was a fluke. as of today he's a legitimate contender.

leo1, there was a story in the New York Observer last week (I believe.. might have been the week before) about Giuliani raising money in Palm Beach County, Florida. It said Romney had been the darling and had raised a ton of money, but his support had sunk into the toilet and his campaign was dying. Giuliani had managed to steal his thunder, had put a campaign infrastructure into place very quickly and had stolen the support and endorsements of most of the big-time fundraisers and local party chairmen.

Things change pretty quickly in presidential politics and the early primary season will make or break candidates' ability to raise money. So Giuliani may not even be around when things get rolling. But I'd say you wouldn't get very good Vegas odds of Romney's campaign picking up any steam from here on out or ever being taken seriously moving forward. He's all but dead, a candidate who never really stood a chance, because there's not a ton that is very substantive or compelling about him. That's really not just my opinion. It's conventional wisdom.

 

[Yawn]

It's all the sentiment from the Massachusetts liberals, who are kicking themselves trying to figure out how a Republican won public office in a socialist state.

 

[cortez]

Whereas the state of our country is completely ****ed Up. Thanks all you Bushies

 

[Yawn]

Oh but Che and Willie are coming to the rescue, and other than tales of how the first man is doing Monica in a reunion tryst and countless others, what a four-year ****up you're going to be in for.