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Elliotte Friedman

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For the news, obviously.

Saw a report today that Paul Molitor was "invited" back for 2018, but nothing is signed. Forgive my ignorance, but WTF is going on there?
 
Richard Justice was on Korneiser last week and said it's 50-50 whether Molitor wants to be back.
 
They should give him three years. Maybe hard feelings about the lack of confidence at the trade deadline?

How San Diego Summit propelled reeling Twins to postseason

That article is almost a parody of itself.

Inspiring song lyrics! Team meeting! Key pieces traded away!

The Twins got good because their young players blossomed and they had an equally fungible reliever to replace the one they traded.

The Royals and Angels and Orioles probably had the same types of team meetings and attitudes. They just didn't have the talented, energetic, emerging young players to put them over the top. Maybe their managers need an iPod.
 
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That article is almost a parody of itself.

Inspiring song lyrics! Team meeting! Key pieces traded away!

The Twins got good because their young players blossomed and they had an equally fungible reliever to replace the one they traded.

The Royals and Angels and Orioles probably had the same types of team meetings and attitudes. They just didn't have the talented, energetic, emerging young players to put them over the top. Maybe their managers need an iPod.

First, Elliotte asked why might Paul Molitor leave, and this story helped underscore the tension between the clubhouse and the front office far better than anything the Tribune, the competing newspaper, has written on the topic.

Second, young players had emerged before the mid-season slump that caused ownership to bail on this season. That Berardino used the lyrics from the song Molitor wrote about on the clubhouse white board only suggest to me that Berardino asked a lot of questions.
 
Hey, he wrote what they told him. Nothing wrong with the article. It's just that what they told him was nonsense. But I believe they believe the team meeting is why they won. Good thing Molitor had that Springsteen song on his iPod.
 
It wasn't nonsense at all and nobody said it is why they won. The players on the team consider it the turning point in their season. It was.
 
Red Sox fire Farrell. It was obviously his fault no starter could get into the fifth against the Astros. He was IMO an utterly average manager. Odds are overwhelming that's what the next guy will be, too. Sox getting back into bad habit of thinking PR can win ballgames.
 
Talk radio and the subset of fans it caters to here (and everywhere) has been after Farrell's scalp for the last three years. Ownership is extremely PR conscious. Worse, I think ownership believes that managers are responsible for "clubhouse culture" whatever that is, and that if the Sox were happier warriors, somehow they'd be better than the Astros. Won't they surprised when David Price is the same oversensitive moody guy in 2018 he is now and that Dustin Pedroia is gloomy because his career is winding down, not because the manager doesn't love him.
Farrell won the exact same number of games this year as he did last, minus David Ortiz, meaning minus the league leader in doubles, RBI, slugging percentage and OPS. He won the same number of games with the team that hit the fewest number of homers in the AL, playing in Fenway. And for the second straight year, his team got bounced in the playoffs because the starting pitchers failed.
He ain't John McGraw. But he got a raw deal today.
 
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