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Let me see if I get this straight --

5-19 and loser of ten in a row Gene Chizik gets a bigger job

Brady Hoke, who lost to Buffalo in the Mac championship game, gets a bigger job

Something named Doug Marrone with no head coaching experience and no real extensive college experience gets a job.

Yet Turner Gill is still at Buffalo.

Yep that seems right to me.......
 
Huggy, I should have taken you up on your offer of tickets for the International Bowl. Just got back from errands and it's looking like a pretty good game.

Dropped my kid off at the GO Station at 11:50. He thought it was a 1:00 kick-off. Oh, well.
 
zagoshe said:
Let me see if I get this straight --

5-19 and loser of ten in a row Gene Chizik gets a bigger job

Brady Hoke, who lost to Buffalo in the Mac championship game, gets a bigger job

Something named Doug Marrone with no head coaching experience and no real extensive college experience gets a job.

Yet Turner Gill is still at Buffalo.

Yep that seems right to me.......

Brady Hoke got a bigger job? I guess.
 
I'm of the thinking that Gill is waiting for a big one. One more 7 or 8 win season at Buffalo, combined with some big gigs likely opening next season, and he's going to be sitting damned pretty.

And how does a team have five turnovers in a half and only trail by three? Edsall is pretty f-ing lucky, methinks.
 
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zagoshe said:
Let me see if I get this straight --

5-19 and loser of ten in a row Gene Chizik gets a bigger job

Brady Hoke, who lost to Buffalo in the Mac championship game, gets a bigger job

Something named Doug Marrone with no head coaching experience and no real extensive college experience gets a job.

Yet Turner Gill is still at Buffalo.

Yep that seems right to me.......

Brady Hoke is a better coach than Turner Gill. Who still lost a bunch of games at Buffalo this year. Ball State only lost one. Anyway, Hoke's move was a lateral one, at best.

I'm sorry for not thinking Gill is going to be the next big mid-major to jump to a big conference and succeed. I'd like to see a 12-1 season or two before I believe that. Otherwise he's going to be another Gerry Dinardo.
 
Do you realize how bad Buffalo was before Gill got there? I mean it's obvious that you don't.

Ohio (which is complete and utter fail at football) could pencil in Buffalo as a win before Gill got there. The Bulls were worse than Washington, Wazzu and Idaho were this year.
 
BG fired its coach in 2000 after he lost to Buffalo, giving the Bulls their first D IA win.
 
sportschick said:
Do you realize how bad Buffalo was before Gill got there? I mean it's obvious that you don't.

Ohio (which is complete and utter fail at football) could pencil in Buffalo as a win before Gill got there. The Bulls were worse than Washington, Wazzu and Idaho were this year.

Actually I do. I think he needs more time.
 
mustangj17 said:
zagoshe said:
Let me see if I get this straight --

5-19 and loser of ten in a row Gene Chizik gets a bigger job

Brady Hoke, who lost to Buffalo in the Mac championship game, gets a bigger job

Something named Doug Marrone with no head coaching experience and no real extensive college experience gets a job.

Yet Turner Gill is still at Buffalo.

Yep that seems right to me.......

Brady Hoke is a better coach than Turner Gill. Who still lost a bunch of games at Buffalo this year. Ball State only lost one. Anyway, Hoke's move was a lateral one, at best.

I'm sorry for not thinking Gill is going to be the next big mid-major to jump to a big conference and succeed. I'd like to see a 12-1 season or two before I believe that. Otherwise he's going to be another Gerry Dinardo.
Hoke's move was not lateral. He's in a way better conference in a better city and a WAY better HS football state. Will he ever field a ranked team? Maybe not, but he's making over 700K and living in one of the nicest cities in the country and has a way better recruiting state.
 
mustangj17 said:
sportschick said:
Do you realize how bad Buffalo was before Gill got there? I mean it's obvious that you don't.

Ohio (which is complete and utter fail at football) could pencil in Buffalo as a win before Gill got there. The Bulls were worse than Washington, Wazzu and Idaho were this year.

Actually I do. I think he needs more time.

Why? Getting that team to 7 or 8 wins is an amazing feat given the program's history. You must work for Auburn.
 
prezclinton said:
mustangj17 said:
zagoshe said:
Let me see if I get this straight --

5-19 and loser of ten in a row Gene Chizik gets a bigger job

Brady Hoke, who lost to Buffalo in the Mac championship game, gets a bigger job

Something named Doug Marrone with no head coaching experience and no real extensive college experience gets a job.

Yet Turner Gill is still at Buffalo.

Yep that seems right to me.......

Brady Hoke is a better coach than Turner Gill. Who still lost a bunch of games at Buffalo this year. Ball State only lost one. Anyway, Hoke's move was a lateral one, at best.

I'm sorry for not thinking Gill is going to be the next big mid-major to jump to a big conference and succeed. I'd like to see a 12-1 season or two before I believe that. Otherwise he's going to be another Gerry Dinardo.
Hoke's move was not lateral. He's in a way better conference in a better city and a WAY better HS football state. Will he ever field a ranked team? Maybe not, but he's making over 700K and living in one of the nicest cities in the country and has a way better recruiting state.

He left a rising Mac conference and a team that was No. 14. In football terms I don't know. Maybe lifestyle wise it was the better move.

You are right about better recruiting though.
 
sportschick said:
mustangj17 said:
sportschick said:
Do you realize how bad Buffalo was before Gill got there? I mean it's obvious that you don't.

Ohio (which is complete and utter fail at football) could pencil in Buffalo as a win before Gill got there. The Bulls were worse than Washington, Wazzu and Idaho were this year.

Actually I do. I think he needs more time.

Why? Getting that team to 7 or 8 wins is an amazing feat given the program's history. You must work for Auburn.

I agree Chizik blows. But Gill at Auburn. Im not so sure he is ready for the SEC yet. Maybe a year or two more.
 
There's no such thing as a rising MAC team. Name me a team that has stayed on top for more than 3-4 years lately. There are teams that rarely have terrible seasons, but look at Miami, Toledo and BG lately.
 
prezclinton said:
There's no such thing as a rising MAC team. Name me a team that has stayed on top for more than 3-4 years lately. There are teams that rarely have terrible seasons, but look at Miami, Toledo and BG lately.

Central Michigan, Western too.
 
And dude, it's Mid-American Conference, not Mac conference. Holy **** that just kills me. Nothing personal.
 
mustangj17 said:
sportschick said:
Do you realize how bad Buffalo was before Gill got there? I mean it's obvious that you don't.

Ohio (which is complete and utter fail at football) could pencil in Buffalo as a win before Gill got there. The Bulls were worse than Washington, Wazzu and Idaho were this year.

Actually I do. I think he needs more time.

Turner Gill needs no more time. He is a fast-tracker.
 
prezclinton said:
And dude, it's Mid-American Conference, not Mac conference. Holy **** that just kills me. Nothing personal.

Sorry I'm playing PS2 online and typing in between plays. I should prolly stop. Ill be back later.
 
mustangj17 said:
prezclinton said:
There's no such thing as a rising MAC team. Name me a team that has stayed on top for more than 3-4 years lately. There are teams that rarely have terrible seasons, but look at Miami, Toledo and BG lately.

Central Michigan.
Central just finished their third good year in a row. They were 6-5 in '05, but that's not at the top of the conference. Before that they were a **** team. And now Lefevour is leaving.
 

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