I mean, WTF

[KG]

This whole thing is just terrible.

 

[Pete Incaviglia]

I keep reading the links, wire stories, etc. just because I seriously cannot believe it even happened. It's that far out there, to the point it doesn't even seem possible.

 

[JR]

I keep reading the links, wire stories, etc. just because I seriously cannot believe it even happened. It's that far out there, to the point it doesn't even seem possible.

Yup.

Evil doesn't begin to describe it.

 

[gingerbread]

I keep reading the links, wire stories, etc. just because I seriously cannot believe it even happened. It's that far out there, to the point it doesn't even seem possible.

Yup.

Evil doesn't begin to describe it.

A very sad story on the the victim.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080801.wbus-victim01/BNStory/National/home

Amazing portrait pulled together under horrific conditions.
I wonder if the accused was one of the passengers doing ecstasy?

 

[Pete Incaviglia]

I immediately wondered the same thing GB. I've never done e, but have friends who have. And the stories are insane.

 

[Smallpotatoes]

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/story/4207370p-4799735c.html

As if there weren't enough candidates for asshole of the year, somebody on Facebook decides to make a joke about this.

 

[ArnoldBabar]

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/story/4207370p-4799735c.html

As if there weren't enough candidates for asshole of the year, somebody on Facebook decides to make a joke about this.

What a stupid story for the paper to publish, making a big deal out of a facebook troll and bringing him attention. What the guy posted wasn't outrageous, it was thoroughly predictable.

 

[Starman]

No death penalty in Canada, so the poor misunderstood Mr. Li will get plenty of psychological counseling (at taxpayer expense of course) to see if he can recover from this misfortune and go on to live a productive life.

Rah rah, sis boom bah.

 

[Beef03]

No death penalty in Canada, so the poor misunderstood Mr. Li will get plenty of psychological counseling (at taxpayer expense of course) to see if he can recover from this misfortune and go on to live a productive life.

Rah rah, sis boom bah.

Well it sounds like he got a **** kicking some time between his stand off with police and his court appearance. I believe the Globe piece said his face was all bruised -- that is unless he landed on his face when he was pulled out the window of the bus by the cops.

My guess is he is a skitzopheranic who went off his meds. Only reasonable explanation I can come up with. One way or another -- even if it is in a mental institution -- I don't see him ever being allowed back out in to society to resume his 'productive life' as a paper delivery boy. At tax payers expense yes - which sucks, but mind you state sanctioned executions aren't exactly on the cheap, especially with all of the appeals that take place.

 

[User 1019]

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/story/4207370p-4799735c.html

As if there weren't enough candidates for asshole of the year, somebody on Facebook decides to make a joke about this.

We have lots of trolls like that around here.

 

[Pete Incaviglia]

No death penalty in Canada, so the poor misunderstood Mr. Li will get plenty of psychological counseling (at taxpayer expense of course) to see if he can recover from this misfortune and go on to live a productive life.

Rah rah, sis boom bah.

Well it sounds like he got a **** kicking some time between his stand off with police and his court appearance. I believe the Globe piece said his face was all bruised -- that is unless he landed on his face when he was pulled out the window of the bus by the cops.

My guess is he is a skitzopheranic who went off his meds. Only reasonable explanation I can come up with. One way or another -- even if it is in a mental institution -- I don't see him ever being allowed back out in to society to resume his 'productive life' as a paper delivery boy. At tax payers expense yes - which sucks, but mind you state sanctioned executions aren't exactly on the cheap, especially with all of the appeals that take place.

Except the fact is Canada doesn't enough have a life sentence. I believe, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, Canada's "life sentence" is only 25 years with no chance of parole.

 

[Iron_chet]

It is 25 years to life so you don't automatically get out after 25 years. 25 Years is the minimum.

People like Clifford Olsen or Paul Bernardo will never get out of prison. There is also a provision where someone can be held indefinitely regardless of what they have been convicted of providing they can be declared a "dangerous offender".

 

[Smallpotatoes]

Jr and out other Candadian members:
Has the subject of bringing back the death penalty in Canada been brought up after this?
Has there been any sort of popular support for bringing it back prior to this?

 

[JR]

Jr and out other Candadian members:
Has the subject of bringing back the death penalty in Canada been brought up after this?
Has there been any sort of popular support for bringing it back prior to this?

No.

The death penalty debate ended 40 years ago up here.

It's a total non-issue. I mean, none.

Sure, there's some advocates who want to bring back the noose but they're mostly ignored.

 

[Pete Incaviglia]

Weird sort of threadjack here, but this is a very well-written story about someone receiving their lethal injection.

It also illustrates why, and I'm assuming here, some don't think the death penalty is effective in its current method:

“I feel insulted by whoever decided to say that lethal injection was cruel and unusual punishment to the inmates,” she said. “I feel like that’s a slap in the face to everybody’s family that had to go through something that we had to endure. If that is cruel, just imagine being stabbed and beat with a hammer or worst of all, losing your child.”

I'm sure the people on the bus who saw the stabbing, the others who saw the beheading, and those who saw the "eating" — not mention, at the least, the parents of this victim, who not only senselessly lost a son but can't even have an open casket funeral if they wanted — think lethal injection is kind compared to what the suspect allegedly did.

 

[schiezainc]

Weird sort of threadjack here, but this is a very well-written story about someone receiving their lethal injection.

It also illustrates why, and I'm assuming here, some don't think the death penalty is effective in its current method:

“I feel insulted by whoever decided to say that lethal injection was cruel and unusual punishment to the inmates,” she said. “I feel like that’s a slap in the face to everybody’s family that had to go through something that we had to endure. If that is cruel, just imagine being stabbed and beat with a hammer or worst of all, losing your child.”

I'm sure the people on the bus who saw the stabbing, the others who saw the beheading, and those who saw the "eating" — not mention, at the least, the parents of this victim, who not only senselessly lost a son but can't even have an open casket funeral if they wanted — think lethal injection is kind compared to what the suspect allegedly did.

I like the allegedly part. That makes it poetic.

 

[Tom Petty]

What I don't understand is the "standoff" part of the story. If the killer was the only one left on the bus, why didn't the police or Mounties or whatever just open fire on the guy and be done with it? I mean, **** that dude. Shoot him to **** and let the passengers take a whack at him, too.

thanks, chief wiggum.

 

[Pete Incaviglia]

Weird sort of threadjack here, but this is a very well-written story about someone receiving their lethal injection.

It also illustrates why, and I'm assuming here, some don't think the death penalty is effective in its current method:

“I feel insulted by whoever decided to say that lethal injection was cruel and unusual punishment to the inmates,” she said. “I feel like that’s a slap in the face to everybody’s family that had to go through something that we had to endure. If that is cruel, just imagine being stabbed and beat with a hammer or worst of all, losing your child.”

I'm sure the people on the bus who saw the stabbing, the others who saw the beheading, and those who saw the "eating" — not mention, at the least, the parents of this victim, who not only senselessly lost a son but can't even have an open casket funeral if they wanted — think lethal injection is kind compared to what the suspect allegedly did.

I like the allegedly part. That makes it poetic.

Innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Iron_chet]

Jr and out other Candadian members:
Has the subject of bringing back the death penalty in Canada been brought up after this?
Has there been any sort of popular support for bringing it back prior to this?

No.

The death penalty debate ended 40 years ago up here.

It's a total non-issue. I mean, none.

Sure, there's some advocates who want to bring back the noose but they're mostly ignored.

JR hit this on the head. Even though I live in a province where that sentiment may be more prevalent, there is no renewed call for the death penalty.

I think that if the Bernardo case did not rally the population to press for the death penalty, nothing will.

 

[Smallpotatoes]

From what I've read, the accused killer is facing second-degree murder charges (because the prosecutors don't think they can prove premeditation) so even if there were a death penalty, he wouldn't be eligible for it anyway.