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I'm fine with a one-year deal. Grossman being around should help push Orton, and the team needs depth at QB. The Bears aren't going to spend big money on a QB, so their choices are limited. Having to pick the lesser of two evils, I'd rather have Grossman than Griese.
 
Angelo: The Isaiah Thomas of the NFL.

Grossman is and always has been awful. A.W.F.U.L.
 
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Beaker said:
Any truth to the McNabb to the Bears rumors?

A rumor that barely deserves the name.

It's nonsense the Inquirer's Don McKee pretty much pulled out of his arse. McNabb signed a 12-year deal in 2002. The Iggles would stand to lose a ton of money, and they're not going to trade him to an organization they and their fans have hated for the better part of 20 years.
 
Lee Jackson Beauregard said:
Beaker said:
Any truth to the McNabb to the Bears rumors?

A rumor that barely deserves the name.

It's nonsense the Inquirer's Don McKee pretty much pulled out of his arse. McNabb signed a 12-year deal in 2002. The Iggles would stand to lose a ton of money, and they're not going to trade him to an organization they and their fans have hated for the better part of 20 years.

Both the Vikings (Childress) and the Ravens (Harbaugh) have already expressed interest.

And if the Eagles are to deal him, now is the time:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3136522

John Clayton in December:

"With his 12-year, $108 million contract under review in the next 13 months, McNabb might be in his last season in Philadelphia. Emotionally, Andy Reid might have a tough time letting him go, but there is a hard business decision that has to be made with regard to McNabb.

At 31, McNabb is at the crossroads of his Eagles career. With McNabb's contract running out in 2009, Philadelphia has to extend him or trade him."
 
Great Decatur Staleys/Chicago Bears QBs, 1920-date:

(1) Sid Luckman













(2) Jim McMahon






END OF LIST
 
Wait a minute, isn't this at least his third or fourth chance?
 
Ben_Hecht said:
Great Decatur Staleys/Chicago Bears QBs, 1920-date:

(1) Sid Luckman













(2) Jim McMahon






END OF LIST

Vince Evans would like to have a word with you.

Seriously, how does one team continually fail in its search for a QB?
 
BYH said:
Ben_Hecht said:
Great Decatur Staleys/Chicago Bears QBs, 1920-date:

(1) Sid Luckman













(2) Jim McMahon






END OF LIST

Vince Evans would like to have a word with you.

Seriously, how does one team continually fail in its search for a QB?

Because They're a running team!
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I have no idea
 
The Bears should get Byron Leftwich or Jake Plummer or Jeff Garcia or someone. Just not Grossman. He does, and will always, suck. Every year Bears fans say he is good but he just isn't.
 
Starving Journalist said:
The Bears should get Byron Leftwich or Jake Plummer or Jeff Garcia or someone. Just not Grossman. He does, and will always, suck. Every year Bears fans say he is good but he just isn't.

Those kind of Bears fans are dead to this kind of Bears fan.

I'd say re-signing Grossman made sense. If I'd just had a stroke.
 
Starving Journalist said:
The Bears should get Byron Leftwich or Jake Plummer or Jeff Garcia or someone. Just not Grossman. He does, and will always, suck. Every year Bears fans say he is good but he just isn't.

I'm a Bears fan and I say he sucks. I gave up on the rumour that he was good during last preseason when all the Bears could talk about was how improved he was and he went on to turn the ball over something like 10 times three brief pre-season appearances. The guy couldn't carry Rick Mirer's jock. Why? because he'd probably fumble it.
 
I'm going to correct myself.

They HAD Bobby Layne, briefly, as a third-stringer behind Luckman.

But Halas had seen the personality type, endless times before, and knew Layne
was "trouble".

And away he went.
 
Write-brained said:
Both the Vikings (Childress) and the Ravens (Harbaugh) have already expressed interest.

And if the Eagles are to deal him, now is the time:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3136522

John Clayton in December:

"With his 12-year, $108 million contract under review in the next 13 months, McNabb might be in his last season in Philadelphia. Emotionally, Andy Reid might have a tough time letting him go, but there is a hard business decision that has to be made with regard to McNabb.

At 31, McNabb is at the crossroads of his Eagles career. With McNabb's contract running out in 2009, Philadelphia has to extend him or trade him."

McFlabb's contract breakdown:

2008: $9,635,000 ($6.3 M base salary)
2009: $9,206,000 ($9.2 M base salary)
2010: $10,006,000 ($10 M base salary)

He can be cut with a smaller cap penalty in after 2009, or no penalty after 2010.

Moreover, the Eagles aren't married to Kevin Kolb. They were putting subtle feelers out last spring.
 
It's not just QB that has been a talentless void for decades. Talking to my brother the other day, I mentioned that the Bears haven't drafted for **** on offense for most of my life. They fail consistently drafting QBs, RBs and WRs. I've never understood how the team can draft so successfully on one side of the ball year after year, but never get it right on the other side. The Bears have a legacy of great running backs, but the only decent one they've drafted since Payton in the mid-70s was Neal Anderson -- and that was 21 years ago. Receivers? It's been all downhill since Harlon Hill in the mid-50s.
 
Bears' passing offense, last 22 years:

2007 -- 3362 yards, 18 TDs
2006 -- 3281 yards, 24 TDs
2005 -- 2201 yards, 11 TDs
2004 -- 2641 yards, 9 TDs
2003 -- 2905 yards, 12 TDs
2002 -- 3316 yards, 22 TDs
2001 -- 3072 yards, 20 TDs
2000 -- 3005 yards, 12 TDs
1999 -- 4352 yards, 25 TDs ----> Gary Crowton's first year as OC
1998 -- 3277 yards, 16 TDs
1997 -- 3501 yards, 14 TDs
1996 -- 3350 yards, 19 TDs
1995 -- 3838 yards, 29 TDs
1994 -- 3230 yards, 19 TDs
1993 -- 2270 yards, 7 TDs
1992 -- 3334 yards, 17 TDs
1991 -- 3292 yards, 16 TDs
1990 -- 2827 yards, 14 TDs
1989 -- 3262 yards, 21 TDs
1988 -- 3173 yards, 13 TDs
1987 -- 3420 yards, 23 TDs
1986 -- 2912 yards, 12 TDs
 
They won with ******* Billy Wade in '63, for heaven's sake . . . and could, because the defense -- for that time frame -- was unGodly. '85's was better, of course, because it was bigger and quicker, but for the time . . . '63's was very, very stingy. And that was with Bill George, not Butkus, who hadn't arrived, yet.
 

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