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It appears that the country is ready to forgive A-Rod for his steroid useage. What if alleged users such as Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds came clean? Would you be as forgiving?
 
I find it easier to forgive and forget with A-Rod because he was honest about it. He didn't deny or try to cover it up. McGwire and Bonds denied it from the get go. That's where a lot of the problem with athletes are concerned. Just be honest about what happened in the past and the fans are much more likely to forgive and forget.
 
Someone mentioned this on another thread. A-Rod never admitted to anything besides making a mistake. He never said what he took or what he did or even how he did it. So what did he come clean about? Nothing really.
 
crazedchipmunk said:
I find it easier to forgive and forget with A-Rod because he was honest about it. He didn't deny or try to cover it up. McGwire and Bonds denied it from the get go. That's where a lot of the problem with athletes are concerned. Just be honest about what happened in the past and the fans are much more likely to forgive and forget.

:o :o

What was he honest about? He was "honest" 'cause he got caught and outed by four sources.
How was he honest? Was he honest when asked point blank by Kaite Couric if he ever took steroids or performance-enhancing drugs?
Now that he has been outed as a cheat, what did he really admit to? A mistake.
What did he apologize for? Being young and stupid, which was more an excuse than an apology.
Did he say he was sorry for lying? No.

How in the hell can he be considered honest?
 
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crazedchipmunk said:
I find it easier to forgive and forget with A-Rod because he was honest about it. He didn't deny or try to cover it up.

um, missed that 60 minutes episode, did ya?
 
Drip said:
It appears that the country is ready to forgive A-Rod for his steroid useage.

Useage?

Also, are you high? What leads you to this conclusion?
 
crazedchipmunk said:
I find it easier to forgive and forget with A-Rod because he was honest about it. He didn't deny or try to cover it up. McGwire and Bonds denied it from the get go. That's where a lot of the problem with athletes are concerned. Just be honest about what happened in the past and the fans are much more likely to forgive and forget.

He was honest about what?
 
crazedchipmunk said:
I find it easier to forgive and forget with A-Rod because he was honest about it. He didn't deny or try to cover it up.

He denied it in a 2007 interview. He's only copped to it now because of the Sports Illustrated story.

I am slightly more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt because he didn't try to spin it or deny it after the report. But I am still not going to forgive the fact that he 1) did steroids to begin with and 2) denied it for such a long time until he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

But I think ultimately, I'd confine myself to simply referring to him as A-Fraud or yelling that at him. I choose to remember his moving Cal Ripken, Jr. to shortstop during the 2001 All Star Game for its symbolism, not the fact that he's a steroid monkey like the rest of the ones who got caught or admitted it.
 
He came clean? I respectfully disagree. He just spun more tales to attempt covering his previous lies.
 
Drip said:
It appears that the country is ready to forgive A-Rod for his steroid useage. What if alleged users such as Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds came clean? Would you be as forgiving?

Pretty big conclusion to make considering the news isn't even a week old. And his "apology" is what, a day old?
 
The Good Doctor said:
Drip said:
It appears that the country is ready to forgive A-Rod for his steroid useage.

Useage?

Also, are you high? What leads you to this conclusion?
You are such a jackass on so many levels. Check out the poll. Perhaps you are the one who is high.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/poll/index?pCat=46&sCat=332
 
Drip said:
The Good Doctor said:
Drip said:
It appears that the country is ready to forgive A-Rod for his steroid useage.

Useage?

Also, are you high? What leads you to this conclusion?
You are such a jackass on so many levels. Check out the poll. Perhaps you are the one who is high.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/poll/index?pCat=46&sCat=332

Web polls directed to fanbois ... eh, no. Do better, please.
 
Drip said:
The Good Doctor said:
Drip said:
It appears that the country is ready to forgive A-Rod for his steroid useage.

Useage?

Also, are you high? What leads you to this conclusion?
You are such a jackass on so many levels. Check out the poll. Perhaps you are the one who is high.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/poll/index?pCat=46&sCat=332

I'm sorry, Drippy. I'll try harder next time. Feel free to file a complaint with HR over my behavior. I deserve it.
 
Forgive what? That he cheated and did something illegal? Haven't talked to anyone who is ready to forgive him. He's going to have his overpaid feet held to the fire for a while and he deserves every damn bit of it.
 
The Good Doctor said:
Drip said:
The Good Doctor said:
Drip said:
It appears that the country is ready to forgive A-Rod for his steroid useage.

Useage?

Also, are you high? What leads you to this conclusion?
You are such a jackass on so many levels. Check out the poll. Perhaps you are the one who is high.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/poll/index?pCat=46&sCat=332

I'm sorry, boots. I'll try harder next time. Feel free to file a complaint with HR over my behavior. I deserve it.
What you deserve is admonishment from the powers that be at SportsJournalists.com. Outing or attempted outings such as what you are doing, are not permitted on the threads.
Why are you attempting to out me or anyone else on the thread sir?
 
yeah... all is forgiven... everyone will pat A-roid on the back...

http://www.freep.com/article/20090210/COL10/90210013/Alex+Rodriguez+should+go+to+jail
 
Is it really outing if you are claiming someone used to be a different anonymous poster?
 
Drippy, I don't think outing means what you think it means. Also, I changed it before you and Hank posted. So it's actually your post that keeps the info out there. Feel free to keep it up, though.

Whining is so unbecoming of a grownup.
 
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