For old NASL fans...

[Simon_Cowbell]

I just got done watching "Once in a Lifetime", the documentary on the New York Cosmos.

Crazy, turbulent, beautiful account, centered on that ridiculous year in New York City, 1977, including that glorious day, four days after the arrest of David Berkowitz, when the Cosmos sold out Giants Stadium for a playoff game against my team, the Fort Lauderdale Strikers.

These guys were, really, like the goddamned Beatles that year.

Extras on the DVD include a video that I never thought I would see again, including a Soccer Bowl 1980 highlights extra (against Fort Lauderdale). For Chicago Sting fans, there is a similar package from the 1981 title game. And one on Pele's final game.

One really surprising quote comes from Johann Cruyff (who I have never really warmed to for his Dutch-team freeze-out of my favorite player, Jan van Beveren), who says that if European soccer had any sense, they would adopt the tie-breaker format the NASL had (overtime, followed by the from-the-35-yard-line, 5-second shootouts). Those guys are usually so provincial about soccer.

And, wow, the overflowing ego of Giorgio Chinaglia is something to watch.

Anyway, if you were sitting in an NASL stadium regularly, as I was from 1977-1981, this is absolutely must viewing.

 

[forever_town]

See, most of the people I spent time with when I went to MLS matches blasted the NASL. Too many foreign players, not nearly enough Americans. And the tiebreaker was considered an abomination.

In fact, one of the things I praise Don Garber for is the fact that most of MLS's changes the past few years have made MLS more closely resemble real footy. Before he got there, MLS was a caricature of a soccer league. Now it has more of the feel of the REAL football.

 

[pallister]

I saw the Chicago Sting beat the Montreal Manic, I think in '81. I've never been a big soccer fan, but I enjoyed the hell out of that game. I think the final score was 10-3. What's the name of that Chicago film?

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

See, most of the people I spent time with when I went to MLS matches blasted the NASL. Too many foreign players, not nearly enough Americans. And the tiebreaker was considered an abomination.

In fact, one of the things I praise Don Garber for is the fact that most of MLS's changes the past few years have made MLS more closely resemble real footy. Before he got there, MLS was a caricature of a soccer league. Now it has more of the feel of the REAL football.

Over penalty kicks, the NASL shootout is superior.

 

[forever_town]

I find both the shootout or penalty kicks odious.

If it's a Cup final, I'd prefer playing golden goal until someone wins.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

BTW, some nice interview material with the late, great music mogul Ahmet Ertegun, who co-founded the Cosmos in 1971.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

I find both the shootout or penalty kicks odious.

If it's a Cup final, I'd prefer playing golden goal until someone wins.

I don't think that a goal scored 250 minutes in by one utterly worn-out team over another, undercutting that winner's chances of performing in the ensuing game is palatable.

A guy having five seconds to shoot, starting from 35 yards out is the best compromise.

 

[GB-Hack]

Except it's completely staged.

A penalty kick can be awarded in the natural flow of the game, which is why it's used to break ties. It is something that players are used to doing.

Same reason why in hockey shootouts, the shot mirrors a penalty shot with the puck starting on the center dot.

 

[dooley_womack1]

The most fascinating thing about that league was that it had a franchise in Rochester, N.Y. And I think it had the longest tenure of any franchise.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

The most fascinating thing about that league was that it had a franchise in Rochester, N.Y. And I think it had the longest tenure of any franchise.

Lancers.... first game I ever saw involved Rochester.

 

[KoM]

After watching that movie, I think the argument can be made the Chinaglia not only destroyed the Cosmos, but the entire league. Maybe he didn't directly cause either's demise, but at least hastened it.

Some of his demands and the way conducted business with the Cosmos was crazy.

That having been said, as a kid I sure did like watching him play.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

What's wrong with you people Chinaglia single-handedly put soccer on the map in the USA! If everybody would listen to him the NASL would still be around and it would be the top soccer league in the world. Players in the EPL, Serie A, La Liga and Germany's top league (which I never can spell) would be clamoring to come to America. And the USMNT would have won at least two World Cups.

And if you don't believe all that, just ask Chinaglia. He'll tell you himself.

 

[GB-Hack]

What's wrong with you people Chinaglia single-handedly put soccer on the map in the USA! If everybody would listen to him the NASL would still be around and it would be the top soccer league in the world. Players in the EPL, Serie A, La Liga and Germany's top league (which I never can spell) would be clamoring to come to America. And the USMNT would have won at least two World Cups.

And if you don't believe all that, just ask Chinaglia. He'll tell you himself.

That German league is the Bundesliga. And Chinaglia may have the largest ego of any Italian soccer player ever.

And that's saying a lot.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

I love the fact that we have someone on this board carrying a grudge against Johan Cruyff.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

I love the fact that we have someone on this board carrying a grudge against Johan Cruyff.

The man of zero nuance and limited vocabulary chirps again.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

What's wrong with you people Chinaglia single-handedly put soccer on the map in the USA! If everybody would listen to him the NASL would still be around and it would be the top soccer league in the world. Players in the EPL, Serie A, La Liga and Germany's top league (which I never can spell) would be clamoring to come to America. And the USMNT would have won at least two World Cups.

And if you don't believe all that, just ask Chinaglia. He'll tell you himself.

That German league is the Bundesliga. And Chinaglia may have the largest ego of any Italian soccer player ever.

And that's saying a lot.

Yes, yes, Bundesliga. So simple to spell, yet I rarely get it right.

Chinaglia may have the largest ego of any professional athlete in American history. He makes Michael Irvin look humble.

 

[Webster]

I met Chignalia once at a charity event -- the guy certainly has a presence. He also believes that he can fix American soccer in about 5 minutes. And everything else in maybe 10.

 

[JC]

Was 5 years old when the Vancouver Whitecaps won the soceer bowl over the Tampa bay Rowdies. I remember my dad taking me to the parade where there were over 100000 people. I grew up wih season tickets and would make the trip down to Seattle and Portland with my dad and the Whitecap booster club. Nothing but fond memories from the NASL, great memories for a kid and his dad.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

When I was a kid we had season tickets to the California Surf for every year of their existence. They came with a card that gave you free access to LA Aztecs and San Diego Sockers games. I went to most of the Aztecs home games from the Cruyff era. I've never seen an athlete dominate a game on the pro level like he could.

I vividly remember watching Cruyff in a shootout back then. He took a few strides, stopped, waited for the keeper to rush him, then chipped it over the keeper into the net. He seemed to find the whole idea pretty amusing and not terribly challenging.

People can complain about the European dominance of the NASL compared to MLS, but I got to watch George Best and Johan Cruyff on a regular basis. No complaints.

 

[Huggy]

Used to go to the odd Toronto Blizzard game (I remember the Metros-Croatia but never went to any games) at Exhibition Stadium, a truly horrid venue for soccer. Even went to a Fort Lauderdale Strikers game at Lockhart Stadium (I think that was the name of it) when we were on a family vacation. The San Diego Chicken was the big guest attraction that night. I think former German national player Gerd Muller was on the Strikers at that time.