FHRITP

[LongTimeListener]

I suppose in Baron's world that's a relevant analogy.

 

[User 11148]

FTUTPMO ...

 

[JC]

Here's a woman who is suing the company for firing her for uninstalling an app that let her employer keep track of her whereabouts all 24 hours.

US employee sues after 'being fired for deleting app' that tracked her location | Technology | The Guardian

All it takes is just one person to bring up overtime provisions.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

I suppose in Baron's world that's a relevant analogy.

Either you're on the clock or you're not. It's not that difficult a concept.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Both of which are related to alleged off the clock behavior.

 

[User 11148]

Think I may go lead an anti-immigration rally. Not because I'm anti-immigration, but because it just sounds fun. I'm sure my employer won't mind, but even it does, **** 'em ... I'm off the clock!

 

[Starman]

**** him in the ass.

He should have gotten a union job with a contract which gave him specific protection and an appeals/grievance process for situations like this.

Otherwise, at-will employment.

**** him in the ass. Hasta la vista, ****nuts.

 

[User 11148]

**** him in the ass.

He should have gotten a union job with a contract which gave him specific protection and an appeals/grievance process for situations like this.

Otherwise, at-will employment.

**** him in the ass. Hasta la vista, ****nuts.

LOL Starman ... never get bogged down with facts. This story's from Canada ... at-will employment does not exist in Canada.

 

[JC]

I think he is union, even if he's not, you can get fired up here for just about anything these days.

If he is union, they'll grieve and likely win but the ****heads name will always be mud.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Think I may go lead an anti-immigration rally. Not because I'm anti-immigration, but because it just sounds fun. I'm sure my employer won't mind, but even it does, **** 'em ... I'm off the clock!

Precisely.

I'm sure if there was an issue that you truly cared about, and wanted to protest, you wouldn't like it if your employer told you that you weren't allowed to, upon penalty of firing, just because they disagreed with you.

 

[JC]

And when the boycotts of that business start, what do you think happens to DQ's job?

 

[JC]

This article answers the union mon union question in regards to this case. You're ****ed if you're non-union.

The Toronto Star

 

[Baron Scicluna]

And when the boycotts of that business start, what do you think happens to DQ's job?

The boycotts end when the employer announces that, while he disagrees with his employee, his employee has a Constitutional right to his opinion, and is allowed to do what they want when they are off the clock. The protesters move on to the next cause of the moment within a week.

Or, if it's that important to the employer, make a contract with the employee that spells everything out, including what is or is not permitted during off-the clock hours. But that might mean some negotiation on the employer's part.

 

[JC]

Good lord Baron, wake up.

Show me this constitutional right you speak of.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

In this day and age, if you do that **** in front of TV cameras (or on social media) you're getting fired. And deservedly so.

 

[User 11148]

And when the boycotts of that business start, what do you think happens to DQ's job?

DQ is tenured at a state university, so his job will be OK for awhile ... But only until such time as the Kafkaesque machinery he'd encounter got kicked into full gear. I can assure you, however, that if it came down to a conflict between DQ's free speech rights and his university's interests ... well, we know which one's coming out on top.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Good lord Baron, wake up.

Show me this constitutional right you speak of.

First Amendment right to free speech.

Yes, there are private consequences to that. But the employee is only paid for their time that they are working. What they do off the clock is not the employer's business. If the employer considers them a representative of the company when they're supposed to be off the clock, then they should be paying them for that time.

Put it another way: You root for a certain NHL team and buy tickets to see them play. Your employer doesn't like that team, and likes the rival team instead. Employer says, don't go to the game, or you're fired, because someone could see you at the game and think the employer likes that team too. You're good with that?

 

[User 11148]

I have a good friend who works for a big, big Anheuser-Busch distributor. I'd guess he pulls down $200K+ ... If someone at his firm saw him drinking a Coors Light, he'd be fired by the next morning.

He really needs to talk to his firm about overtime.

 

[exmediahack]

This is the unintended consequence (albeit a positive one) to the social media age. Some level of accountability when people recklessly violate social norms. I welcome this.

Remember 20 years ago, when some Jets fans were throwing snowballs at Giants Stadium? One, I believe, hit an opposing trainer or assistant coach. Even that pre-social media age, people were able to identify the guy.

 

[heyabbott]

I have a good friend who works for a big, big Anheuser-Busch distributor. I'd guess he pulls down $200K+ ... If someone at his firm saw him drinking a Coors Light, he'd be fired by the next morning.

He really needs to talk to his firm about overtime.

I know someone who is a GM at a Pepsi bottling plant, same thing. But a low level employee shouldn't be held to that standard. You want loyalty, you pay for it.

But FHRITP like ****** is a firing offense. And **** FSU Tampa and the NFL for Jameis.