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writer200707

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I am trying to find out who else there is to read for college basketball. Andy Katz is putrid. He just kisses everyone's ass and doesn't even break that much anymore. The new guy at CBS isn't bad, but he's no Gregg Doyell.
 
Sticking with ESPN.com, the Forde Minutes column should be starting up any...time...now.

Great weekly look at hoops, as he does with football with the Forde-Yard Dash.
 
writer200707 said:
I am trying to find out who else there is to read for college basketball. Andy Katz is putrid. He just kisses everyone's ass and doesn't even break that much anymore. The new guy at CBS isn't bad, but he's no Gregg Doyell.

Gary Parrish, your (oops, I mean Doyel's) replacement, is a solid college hoops writer. And he doesn't engage in the "look at me, I'm so controversial" BS that you (oops, I mean Doyel) did.

That being said, you (oops, I mean Doyel) were (was) not afraid to take on any of the sacred cows. Your (oops, his) scathing piece on Calhoun last season after the Doug Wiggins was outstanding. It takes balls to go after a HOF coach like that, even if you're not on the beat.
 
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This is not Gregg Doyel. I am just a big college basketball fan who is also a writer for a small paper. I wish I made what Doyel makes. What do you think of Seth Davis, Jeff Goodman and Mike Decourcy? Seth Davis doesn't really seem to care about anything but TV anymore.
 
I think Andy Katz is great actually. It's unbelievable to see the kind of sources the guy has. I don't think any writer in America gets down to the nitty gritty of college basketball (from a real hard-core's perspective, not your typical simplistic media fluff) the way he does. Yes he seems to kiss a bit of ass here and there, but realistically I don't see any other way he'd be able to get the access he does without doing that. Don't think he pushes it too much either, and as long as you know to take certain things with a grain of salt, I don't think its a huge issue either. You can't argue with the fact that he's a great writer, a super hard worker, and extremely prolific. I don't always agree with everything he says, but you have to respect what he does there on his blog and in the occasional article.

Other writers I enjoy...

Mike DeCourcy. Gets lost sometimes over on the Sporting News, but he's a great writer, a very well respected guy in the industry and really loves his hoops.

Frank Burlison. Different style of writing, but I really respect his opinion on players. Another guy who travels his ass off and is a well respected guy in his specific niche.

Gary Parrish. Very good writer, I've liked him since his days at the Commercial Appeal. Also really prolific and has a good sense for knowing when to push certain buttons right as a topic gets hot. I like him a lot more than Doyel, who always came off to me as a huge prick and very clearly "borrowed" a lot of his stuff from various sources on the net.

Luke Winn- Kinda hit or miss now that he's got that blog, but I've read some very good stuff from him from time to time.

Dan Wetzel- I don't see enough from him these days I feel, but this guy has the juice without a doubt, and he's not afraid to use it. He seems to know college basketball inside out.

Last one...Kyle Whelliston...from Midmajority.com. Also writes for ESPN Insider.
 
JonathanG said:
Frank Burlison. Different style of writing, but I really respect his opinion on players. Another guy who travels his ass off and is a well respected guy in his specific niche.

Thank you. I worked with him at my first shop. GREAT guy. Knows as much about the state of national HS and college hoops as any writer in America. He does the Best in the West for the Press-Telegram. The hardest hardcore hoops junkie in America he is. GREAT guy, too.
 
I don't think that Frank Burlison writes for Fox anymore. Jeff Goodman is their national guy and it looks like he may be as connected as Katz or anyone else from the way he's broken stories so far this year. I'm not sure who he is, but he's done a good job since I've been reading.

Does Wentzel still cover college hoops? Where is he?
 
DeCourcy's a nice guy. But God have mercy on your soul if you ever suggest he STFU.

("No More Acronyms?" Anybody?)

(I need to stop posting on this board when I'm drunk.)
 
writer200707 said:
I don't think that Frank Burlison writes for Fox anymore. Jeff Goodman is their national guy and it looks like he may be as connected as Katz or anyone else from the way he's broken stories so far this year. I'm not sure who he is, but he's done a good job since I've been reading.

Does Wentzel still cover college hoops? Where is he?

Wetzel's last column it looks like was about soccer:

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=dw-beckham011107&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I also see a very recent NBA article. Damn shame if you ask me if he's out of the NCAA scene. I enjoyed his stuff.

Here's Burlison's archive at the Press Telegram:

http://www.presstelegram.com/frankburlison

Always worth the trip in my opinion. Here he is on Fox: http://msn.foxsports.com/writer/archive?authorId=48

He also works with Fox's little sister Scout.com. Does great stuff during the summer on the sneaker camps.

About Goodman, I know he is from the Boston area. He runs the National Prep Showcase in Wocester which I attended a few months ago. Probably one of the most organized tournaments I've been to. Seems like a good guy too, although I can't say I know him too well. I know he also writes occasionly for the Boston Herald as well.
 
You can't honestly like Whelliston (sp). Some stuff I read (lower conf. previews) had many errors and he didn't bother doing any research, or so it seemed.
 
I really don't judge writers by how good their editors are. Some outlets have a guy with an Ivy League Master's degree in English on call 24/7 to edit stuff, and some don't. I can see why other people (especially on this board) would see it differently. To me, originality/creativity is a lot more important, as in offering me a perspective that I wouldn't find elsewhere. Needs to be thoughtful and well written of course. Here is an article from Whelliston I read this past week for example: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=2726437&type=story. This kid Trey Johnson has been leading the NCAA in scoring all season, and I haven't read even one decent story about him. Compare that with the love-fest last year around Morrison and Redick, where basically the same exact story was regurgitated 1000 times over in a span of 3 months. That's why I'll go out from time to time to see what Whelliston's been up to.
 

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