Bill Cowher's coaching status

[outofplace]

It's OK by me. It's something I would have done when I was 16 years old, too.

There is a more than valid case for negligent officiating in that game that your brethren have acknowledged. (You have not). If you want to give it another run, then say so.

Fine. You think the fix was in? Go do a story on it or STFU already. The Steelers won. We're nearly through the following season and they have already been dethroned. Learn to deal with it already.

 

[Smasher_Sloan]

Would Cowher want to coach at Alabama?

There would be few people more ill equipped for college coaching.

What makes you say that?

I can see some difficulty adjusting to the college game for somebody who has been coaching professionals for so long, but what else would hold him back?

This is a high-energy guy who can go into a recruit's house and show off a Super Bowl ring.

That said, I can't imagine why he would want the job. If he doesn't stay in Pittsburgh, I think Cowher takes a year or two off and returns somewhere else in the NFL. It's not like he'd have a hard time getting another job.

And forget Atlanta. That job's going to be open this offseason and no way Cowher coaches anywhere else in the NFL next season.

I don't think he'd do that to the Steelers and if he tried, I doubt they would give him permission. Cowher cannot coach in the NFL next year without the team's permission because he still has a year on his contract.

Cowher wants things done his way, on his terms. He ran off a GM in Pittsburgh in a power struggle. He is not the type to go recruiting, he is not the type to attend booster functions, he is not the type to play all the political games that go with navigating a major football program's administration.

He'll take next season off, maybe work TV, then write his own NFL ticket with a five-year deal somewhere for many dollars and complete control.

 

[Oz]

I'll confine further comments to a relevant thread, but I think Martz could turn some water into wine in Atlanta.

What the hell has he done in the past 5 years that would lead you to believe that??

I can't speak for LJB, but I know one reason for me -- Jon Kitna. A career 59 percent passer, he's up to 62 percent this season and should top 4,000 yards. Granted, he's got 21 picks, but it's enough for me to think Vick could get some much needed help from that system, given that's he's got far more talent.

 

[Herbert Anchovy]

Starman, Marc Bulger, for one. He mined that ore and developed him. He's still rough around the edges but not a bad player at all.

Mike Furrey. (It's a stretch, but still). The guy was a safety and he's had a very respectable year with a **** quarterback. You have to throw anything to do with the Lions out of the equation.

 

[Herbert Anchovy]

It's OK by me. It's something I would have done when I was 16 years old, too.

There is a more than valid case for negligent officiating in that game that your brethren have acknowledged. (You have not). If you want to give it another run, then say so.

Fine. You think the fix was in? Go do a story on it or STFU already. The Steelers won. We're nearly through the following season and they have already been dethroned. Learn to deal with it already.

Never!

 

[Herbert Anchovy]

LJB, why revisit history?

It's what I do. [James Earl Jones voice]

 

[Starman]

I'll confine further comments to a relevant thread, but I think Martz could turn some water into wine in Atlanta.

What the hell has he done in the past 5 years that would lead you to believe that??

I can't speak for LJB, but I know one reason for me -- Jon Kitna. A career 59 percent passer, he's up to 62 percent this season and should top 4,000 yards. Granted, he's got 21 picks, but it's enough for me to think Vick could get some much needed help from that system, given that's he's got far more talent.

Empty numbers. Nothing but cotton candy and hot air.

Starman, Marc Bulger, for one. He mined that ore and developed him. He's still rough around the edges but not a bad player at all.

Mike Furrey. (It's a stretch, but still). The guy was a safety and he's had a very respectable year with a **** quarterback. You have to throw anything to do with the Lions out of the equation.

Oh no you don't. At least 47% of the idiocy on the Lions' sidelines this year (time outs all burned with 12 minutes to go in the game, not knowing whether to go for it on 4th down or not, idiotic replay challenges, repeated false-start and delay-of-game penalties because Mr. Wizard hasn't been able to teach the stupid players how to line up and run his nuclear-quantum-physics plays) comes right back in Martz' lap. Of course, Marinelli, at least theoretically, is supposed to be the "head coach," so he gets a little more of the blame, but not much.

 

[markvid]

Would Cowher want to coach at Alabama?

There would be few people more ill equipped for college coaching.

What makes you say that?

I can see some difficulty adjusting to the college game for somebody who has been coaching professionals for so long, but what else would hold him back?

This is a high-energy guy who can go into a recruit's house and show off a Super Bowl ring.

That said, I can't imagine why he would want the job. If he doesn't stay in Pittsburgh, I think Cowher takes a year or two off and returns somewhere else in the NFL. It's not like he'd have a hard time getting another job.

And forget Atlanta. That job's going to be open this offseason and no way Cowher coaches anywhere else in the NFL next season.

I don't think he'd do that to the Steelers and if he tried, I doubt they would give him permission. Cowher cannot coach in the NFL next year without the team's permission because he still has a year on his contract.

Cowher wants things done his way, on his terms. He ran off a GM in Pittsburgh in a power struggle. He is not the type to go recruiting, he is not the type to attend booster functions, he is not the type to play all the political games that go with navigating a major football program's administration.

He'll take next season off, maybe work TV, then write his own NFL ticket with a five-year deal somewhere for many dollars and complete control.

I think Mike Holmgren has ruined the coach/GM combo in the NFL. If someone with his credentials fails at it, I think it's a long, long time before anyone tries it again.

 

[Herbert Anchovy]

Oh no you don't. At least 47% of the idiocy on the Lions' sidelines this year (time outs all burned with 12 minutes to go in the game, not knowing whether to go for it on 4th down or not, idiotic replay challenges, repeated false-start and delay-of-game penalties because Mr. Wizard hasn't been able to teach the stupid players how to line up and run his nuclear-quantum-physics plays) comes right back in Martz' lap. Of course, Marinelli, at least theoretically, is supposed to be the "head coach," so he gets a little more of the blame, but not much.

Chicken salad, please to meet chicken****. Recall when Seattle beat Detroit 9-6 on opening day and Roy Williams said that they were so close to putting 40 points on the Seahawks. Yeah.

Martz has been there one year. I can't believe I'm defending this old woman. He's a kook, all right, but I think he could be imaginative with a rare talent and a reasonably talented offense that shows very little creativity or consistency.

 

[spnited]

Maybe it's time to consider that Cowher's future could be succeeding Tom Coughlin in New Jersey.

 

[Oz]

Maybe it's time to consider that Cowher's future could be succeeding Tom Coughlin in New Jersey.

If he does, it won't be in 2007. Cowher's under contract through next season, and I doubt the Steelers would sign off to allow Cowher to coach anywhere else in the league next season should he walk away.

If he coaches anywhere in 2007, it will be with the Steelers, finishing his contract. But I could easily see him taking time off and doing some studio work until another good situation presents itself someday.

 

[spnited]

Heard two very interestig popssibilites to succeed Coughlin tonight.. both of which would cost the Giants some draft picks.
Cowher was one.
This, of course, is contingent on Giants not making the playoffs. If they win in Washington on Saturday night, Coughlin is safe for another year... with some staff changes

 

[Sam Mills 51]

Steelers could block that, S-P. Still a year left on Cowher's deal. Pittsburgh could deal with a simple resignation and a year somewhere off on an island to ponder the next move, but IIRC, the Steelers could hold the last year of that deal over his head if he were doing this strictly for a move to the Meadowlands.

 

[spnited]

Here's the twist Sam... The feeling is Cowher's walking away next week, regardless.
The Giants aren't quite sure what they're doing becuase Acorsi is retiring as GM and there could be a whole new look there.
So Cowher walks. Coughlin gets canned. A month later, Giants get a new GM and ask Steelers about possible compensation if they want to talk to Cowher.
All very above board because that is the legacy of Wellington Mara that his family will uphold.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

S-P, agreed that Cowher's walking away. Otherwise, he would make it clear that he's staying.

Now if the Giants and Steelers can agree on compensation - a draft pick or two - then it makes perfect sense. You would think a team formerly owned by Wellington Mara and another by the Rooneys could put together a pretty under-the-radar deal.

I'm with the theory.

 

[Oz]

Just to start speculation as to what the Giants might have to pay the Steelers, should they want Cowher in 2007 ...

The Bucs paid the Raiders two first-round picks, a second-round pick and a third-round pick to get Jon Gruden. Oh, and $8 million cash.

The Chiefs paid second- and third-round picks for **** Vermeil when faced with tampering charges by the Rams.

The Chiefs paid only a fourth-round pick for Herm Edwards, though, last year when the Jets -- for some reason -- chose not to file tampering charges with the lead with they should have gotten more in return.

 

[spnited]

The Jets wanted Herm to go, Oz.
The Steelers have no choice in Cowher leaving, only question is if they want to keep him from coaching next year.
The whole Giants thing is major speculation. Coughlin's pretty much guaranteed to stay if they beat the Skins and make the playoffs.
The other silly coach talk about NJ is really far more interesting.

 

[Oz]

I know the Jets wanted Herm to go, but that doesn't mean they should have accepted only a fourth-round pick. Play some hardball, get at least two picks from the Chiefs. Make them sweat it out some.

As for Cowher, the Steelers probably won't him coach anywhere in the NFL next year without compensation. Give up some picks and sure they would let him coach elsewhere. If he wants time away, fine with that too.

The Giants make sense, too, given that his daughters attend Princeton and that a major reason he would want some time away is to watch them play hoops. That job would allow him to balance work with his family.

 

[fmrsped]

As for Cowher, the Steelers probably won't him coach anywhere in the NFL next year without compensation. Give up some picks and sure they would let him coach elsewhere. If he wants time away, fine with that too.

Christ, Oz, why does it always have to be about the Steelers? :)

 

[RAMBO]

S-P, agreed that Cowher's walking away. Otherwise, he would make it clear that he's staying.

Now if the Giants and Steelers can agree on compensation - a draft pick or two - then it makes perfect sense. You would think a team formerly owned by Wellington Mara and another by the Rooneys could put together a pretty under-the-radar deal.

I'm with the theory.

I like that idea.