BCS is out....

[Paper Dragon]

When you put making money over the integrity of your league, you don't deserve to have fans.

And yet you root for the cheating Patriots ... thanks again for weighing in. You're always good for a laugh.

 

[schiezainc]

When you put making money over the integrity of your league, you don't deserve to have fans.

And yet you root for the cheating Patriots ... thanks again for weighing in. You're always good for a laugh.

Oh, ha ha! I see what you did there! You took the actions of one idiotic coach in one idiotic moment and applied it to represent a franchise with almost 50 years of history behind it.

That's so original!

Of course, I'm sure you're still calling out White Sox fans right? Cause they totally cheated too! Yeah!

 

[hockeybeat]

When you put making money over the integrity of your league, you don't deserve to have fans.

Please, pass that message on to the following leagues:

• National Football League
  280 Park Avenue
  NY, NY 10017
  
• National Basketball Association
  Olympic Tower, 645 5th Ave.
  New York, NY 10022
  
• Major League Baseball
  350 Park Avenue
  New York, NY 10022
  
• The National Hockey League
  1251 Avenue of the Americas, 47th Floor
  New York City, NY, 10020-1198

 

[schiezainc]

When you put making money over the integrity of your league, you don't deserve to have fans.

Please, pass that message on to the following leagues:

• National Football League
  280 Park Avenue
  NY, NY 10017
  
• National Basketball Association
  Olympic Tower, 645 5th Ave.
  New York, NY 10022
  
• Major League Baseball
  350 Park Avenue
  New York, NY 10022
  
• The National Hockey League
  1251 Avenue of the Americas, 47th Floor
  New York City, NY, 10020-1198

Hate to thread jack more than I already have, but in what ways have those leagues ruined their integrity on a scale comparable to this bull**** BCS nonsense?

 

[hockeybeat]

When you put making money over the integrity of your league, you don't deserve to have fans.

Please, pass that message on to the following leagues:

• National Football League
  280 Park Avenue
  NY, NY 10017
  
• National Basketball Association
  Olympic Tower, 645 5th Ave.
  New York, NY 10022
  
• Major League Baseball
  350 Park Avenue
  New York, NY 10022
  
• The National Hockey League
  1251 Avenue of the Americas, 47th Floor
  New York City, NY, 10020-1198

Hate to thread jack more than I already have, but in what ways have those leagues ruined their integrity on a scale comparable to this bull**** BCS nonsense?

Here's the dirty little secret about big money sports. Ready? Owners, commissioners, league presidents, those in charge, they don't care about the "integrity of the game(s)." As long as the cash registers are ringing up sales, as long as there is revenue coming in from TV and radio and luxury boxes, that's all that matters.

What about the regular fan, you say? Those who are charged with overseeing the big money sports do not care about you or me. We don't make up a big percentage of their revenues. Why do you think ALDS and ALCS East Coast games were starting after 8 P.M.? It ain't about the fans who filled the Fens and Orange Juice Dome.

 

[schiezainc]

When you put making money over the integrity of your league, you don't deserve to have fans.

Please, pass that message on to the following leagues:

• National Football League
  280 Park Avenue
  NY, NY 10017
  
• National Basketball Association
  Olympic Tower, 645 5th Ave.
  New York, NY 10022
  
• Major League Baseball
  350 Park Avenue
  New York, NY 10022
  
• The National Hockey League
  1251 Avenue of the Americas, 47th Floor
  New York City, NY, 10020-1198

Hate to thread jack more than I already have, but in what ways have those leagues ruined their integrity on a scale comparable to this bull**** BCS nonsense?

Here's the dirty little secret about big money sports. Ready? Owners, commissioners, league presidents, those in charge, they don't care about the "integrity of the game(s)." As long as the cash registers are ringing up sales, as long as there is revenue coming in from TV and radio and luxury boxes, that's all that matters.

What about the regular fan, you say? Those who are charged with overseeing the big money sports do not care about you or me. We don't make up a big percentage of their revenues. Why do you think ALDS and ALCS East Coast games were starting after 8 P.M.? It ain't about the fans who filled the Fens and Orange Juice Dome.

I'm not saying I'm against these leagues making money. ****, the NFL can move games to South Africa and I wouldn't care. It's their perogative.

But, what justification can you give me for the BCS? The NCAA is the only major league I can think of that doesn't have a legit tournament for its championship. It's up to a system of computers, formulas and equations to decide who is going to be going to the championship game.

Sure, sometimes there might be a clear-cut favorite. That clear-cut favorite might kill everyone en route to a win in the BCS title game, but when you take the intangibles out of your sport, you don't have a sport, you have an organized activity.

A team like Texas might ultimately win this year, but how can you say they're the legit champ and that they're better than everyone else if they don't prove it?

Yes, I know, they might have the best regular season this year. Whoopdie do. So did the Pats last year and look how that turned up.

No playoff tournament=no reason to watch.

 

[Armchair_QB]

No playoff tournament=no reason to watch.

Then shut your ****ing piehole and don't watch. Several million other people think your opinion is a steaming pile of ****.

 

[hockeybeat]

When you put making money over the integrity of your league, you don't deserve to have fans.

Please, pass that message on to the following leagues:

• National Football League
  280 Park Avenue
  NY, NY 10017
  
• National Basketball Association
  Olympic Tower, 645 5th Ave.
  New York, NY 10022
  
• Major League Baseball
  350 Park Avenue
  New York, NY 10022
  
• The National Hockey League
  1251 Avenue of the Americas, 47th Floor
  New York City, NY, 10020-1198

Hate to thread jack more than I already have, but in what ways have those leagues ruined their integrity on a scale comparable to this bull**** BCS nonsense?

Here's the dirty little secret about big money sports. Ready? Owners, commissioners, league presidents, those in charge, they don't care about the "integrity of the game(s)." As long as the cash registers are ringing up sales, as long as there is revenue coming in from TV and radio and luxury boxes, that's all that matters.

What about the regular fan, you say? Those who are charged with overseeing the big money sports do not care about you or me. We don't make up a big percentage of their revenues. Why do you think ALDS and ALCS East Coast games were starting after 8 P.M.? It ain't about the fans who filled the Fens and Orange Juice Dome.

I'm not saying I'm against these leagues making money. ****, the NFL can move games to South Africa and I wouldn't care. It's their perogative.

But, what justification can you give me for the BCS? The NCAA is the only major league I can think of that doesn't have a legit tournament for its championship. It's up to a system of computers, formulas and equations to decide who is going to be going to the championship game.

Sure, sometimes there might be a clear-cut favorite. That clear-cut favorite might kill everyone en route to a win in the BCS title game, but when you take the intangibles out of your sport, you don't have a sport, you have an organized activity.

A team like Texas might ultimately win this year, but how can you say they're the legit champ and that they're better than everyone else if they don't prove it?

Yes, I know, they might have the best regular season this year. Whoopdie do. So did the Pats last year and look how that turned up.

No playoff tournament=no reason to watch.

I'm not justifying the NCAA's stance. I think it's ridiculous. There should be a playoff. But I learned a long time ago not to tilt at windmills; that Don Quixotic quests usually end badly.

Until the school presidents want a playoff system, only then will change come.

 

[schiezainc]

No playoff tournament=no reason to watch.

Then shut your ****ing piehole and don't watch. Several million other people think your opinion is a steaming pile of ****.

Aww, shucks, that would hurt my feelings if I gave a **** what you thought douche.

 

[zagoshe]

There is no way a one-loss team from the Big Ten should get anywhere close to the title game but.....

If Penn State is undefeated there is no way any team with a loss should jump ahead of them to get into the title game, I don't care what conference they come from.

Any team that goes through a season undefeated in a major conference deserves a shot at the title (heck seeing how much parity is abound, I'm thinking any undefeated team deserves a shot at the title) if there isn't two other undefeateds out there.

And you can say whatever you want about schedules --- but let's review -- Florida has one loss because of, um, Mississippi and USC has one loss because of, um, Oregon State -- in other words it is hard to win every game these days.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

Then shut your ****ing piehole and don't watch. Several million other people think your opinion is a steaming pile of ****.

Actually, several million people don't think his opinion is a steaming pile of ****, but we watch anyways.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

The opinion about college football is shared by more than you might think, A_QB. I think college football's idea of crowning a national champion is as full of holes as the Chase for the Cup.

The difference is the other sports leagues are a little less transparents about being a shameless money grab. But the NCAA - at least with the BCS - and NASCAR are brazen. I care, many people don't. Life goes on.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

Yes, the BCS is a complete sham. But if my alma mater manages to one day win the BCS Championship, guess what? I won't care. They'll have been in the right place at the right time.

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

Penn State has no business in the title game. If it's not the Big 12 champion against the SEC champion, it's a complete and total ****ing fraud this year.

Disagree, and I'm in SEC land.

 

[micropolitan guy]

I've stated on here before about my view of a 16-team playoff that would incorporate the bowls, most of which would become relevant for the first time ever.

And as the devil's advocate, the people who run the various bowls have no interest whatsoever in seeing their game(s), insignificant as they may seem to some, be eliminated and replaced by an NCAA playoff game.

Trust me, the Rose Bowl committee won't lift a finger to help a semifinal or championship game in Pasadena because it means the end of the Rose Bowl, period. Somebody against somebody in an NCAA semi or quarterfinal game just isn't the Rose Bowl.

Not saying a playoff isn't the way to go. But I believe those who think you could just incorporate the curent bowl games into the process, and that the numerous people who run the bowls would give up their golden goose to the NCAA, are sadly mistaken.

 

[Oz]

Penn State has no business in the title game. If it's not the Big 12 champion against the SEC champion, it's a complete and total ****ing fraud this year.

Disagree, and I'm in SEC land.

I also disagree, and I'm in Big 12 land.

A one- or two-loss champ from the Big 12 or SEC shouldn't get any guarantee. Bottom line, the two teams who deserve it most ought to get the shot, regardless of their conferences.

If Penn State runs the table, it would be tough to penalize them for Ohio State's sins. You can only penalize Ohio State for Ohio State's sins.

 

[prezclinton]

Penn State has pretty much murdered everyone. Ohio State should have nothing to do with the decision of where Penn State is ranked. To say any one-loss team could be ranked ahead of them is ludicrous and would be a complete travesty.
The Big Ten has been down, but the ACC and Big East don't even have any business having an automatic bid.

 

[Tom Petty]

I've stated on here before about my view of a 16-team playoff that would incorporate the bowls, most of which would become relevant for the first time ever.

And as the devil's advocate, the people who run the various bowls have no interest whatsoever in seeing their game(s), insignificant as they may seem to some, be eliminated and replaced by an NCAA playoff game.

Trust me, the Rose Bowl committee won't lift a finger to help a semifinal or championship game in Pasadena because it means the end of the Rose Bowl, period. Somebody against somebody in an NCAA semi or quarterfinal game just isn't the Rose Bowl.

Not saying a playoff isn't the way to go. But I believe those who think you could just incorporate the curent bowl games into the process, and that the numerous people who run the bowls would give up their golden goose to the NCAA, are sadly mistaken.

nice post.

i think the folks who run the rose bowl also care a bit about tradition, as well.

and people talk about what a steaming pile of **** the BCS is, but fail to remember that not all that long ago we didn't even have a championship game.

 

[editorhoo]

Penn State has no business in the title game. If it's not the Big 12 champion against the SEC champion, it's a complete and total ****ing fraud this year.

Probably the dumbest thing I've heard in a discussion about college football this year. And that's saying something.

Certainly not the dumbest I've heard, and it will likely be surpassed in the months to come anyway. I do know that the system is designed to pit undefeated teams from participating conferences against each other. If Penn State is undefeated, it belongs. We can't get into some kind of "Which conference is BETTER!!!!!!" argument.

Also, editorhoo: let's not fellate Ohio State THAT much. Yes, the play a single "name" team in nonconference every year. But the rest is filled with the likes of Ohio U. As long as a USC schedules three nonconference BCS schools just about every year (and frankly, UCLA's nonconference is seldom the Sisters of the Poor), then the bar is raised for the rest. No BCS conference school should ever schedule a D I-AA school, and they should do what they can to get the six top conferences (and a BYU or two spinkled in) to play each other in nonleague games.

Piotr,

I was expecting this type of retort from someone, and it's all good.

When you are a big-time college program in a big-time conference, I think the whole idea with your non-conference schedule is to play one big-time team and two or three others who are decent, but you know you should probably beat. My point was that SEC teams don't exactly challenge themselves with their non-conference schedule. How often does an SEC team travel north of the Mason-Dixon line, or west of the Mississippi? Rarely.

I have no problem with OSU playing Youngstown State, Ohio, Toledo, etc., as long as they schedule one big-name team, as well. Like someone noted on this thread, Ohio State made it very public about 15 years ago that it was going to play smaller Ohio schools because it gives those schools money and promotes the sport within in the state, creating a trickle-down effect to the high schools.

I wasn't trying to fellate the Buckeyes so much as I was merely defending them. They challenge themselves with the likes of USC, Texas, Washington, Virginia Tech, UCLA. When was the last time an SEC team played Texas or USC in the regular season?

Also, I think the bottom line with my argument that Ohio State is, and has been, one of the top college football programs for about 60 years, and I'm sick of drive-by fans giving them ****.

I guarantee that the NFL is thankful for the talent the Buckeyes have provided them.

 

[User 1019]

Arkansas played Texas just a few weeks ago.

Not west of the Mississippi, but I'm pretty sure Alabama opened this season with Clemson. Tennessee played UCLA for the last couple of years. Alabama opened with Oklahoma a handful of years back -- and lost a close one. I'm pretty sure USC beat the dog **** out of Arkansas the last couple of years. Ole Miss played Wake Forest this season.

Just a few off the top of my head.