BCS is out....

[GB-Hack]

Penn State has no business in the title game. If it's not the Big 12 champion against the SEC champion, it's a complete and total ****ing fraud this year.

What she said, but here's a little twist - Oklahoma could win out, not win the B12 South and end up in the BCS title game.

Wasn't a conference champion provision put in after the Nebraska debacle?

No.

I remember hearing a lot of guff about that needing to happen. Good to see nothing was done. :

 

[editorhoo]

You leaving Arizona State out of Georgia's non-conference for a reason, or because you forgot the Bulldogs went there and whipped them?

Nope. Not on purpose, just an oversight. Like I said, no disrespect to the SEC. They play great football.

 

[JackReacher]

Penn State has no business in the title game. If it's not the Big 12 champion against the SEC champion, it's a complete and total ****ing fraud this year.

Probably the dumbest thing I've heard in a discussion about college football this year. And that's saying something.

 

[Mystery_Meat]

Nothing I'd love to see more than 3 undefeateds (Texas, Alabama, Penn State) at the end. Four would've been even better, but BYU spit the bit.

Utah (also MWC, just like BYU) is still undefeated, as is Boise State.

I know, but BYU at No. 9 was the only one that had a realistic shot at getting into the title picture with teams ahead of them losing. Utah and Boise are ranked too low to be there in the end and have too many rungs to climb.

Only because voters refuse to jump the little guys like they do the Oklahoma States of the world (for the record, I don't think BSU would ever belong in a title game. The MWC is probably better than the Big East and the ACC this year, so Utah could).

They jumped East Carolina this year. And got repaid with enough fail to float a floatilla of failboats

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

Penn State has no business in the title game. If it's not the Big 12 champion against the SEC champion, it's a complete and total ****ing fraud this year.

Probably the dumbest thing I've heard in a discussion about college football this year. And that's saying something.

Certainly not the dumbest I've heard, and it will likely be surpassed in the months to come anyway. I do know that the system is designed to pit undefeated teams from participating conferences against each other. If Penn State is undefeated, it belongs. We can't get into some kind of "Which conference is BETTER!!!!!!" argument.

Also, editorhoo: let's not fellate Ohio State THAT much. Yes, the play a single "name" team in nonconference every year. But the rest is filled with the likes of Ohio U. As long as a USC schedules three nonconference BCS schools just about every year (and frankly, UCLA's nonconference is seldom the Sisters of the Poor), then the bar is raised for the rest. No BCS conference school should ever schedule a D I-AA school, and they should do what they can to get the six top conferences (and a BYU or two spinkled in) to play each other in nonleague games.

 

[slappy4428]

Penn State has no business in the title game. If it's not the Big 12 champion against the SEC champion, it's a complete and total ****ing fraud this year.

Probably the dumbest thing I've heard in a discussion about college football this year. And that's saying something.

Certainly not the dumbest I've heard, and it will likely be surpassed in the months to come anyway. I do know that the system is designed to pit undefeated teams from participating conferences against each other. If Penn State is undefeated, it belongs. We can't get into some kind of "Which conference is BETTER!!!!!!" argument.

Also, editorhoo: let's not fellate Ohio State THAT much. Yes, the play a single "name" team in nonconference every year. But the rest is filled with the likes of Ohio U. As long as a USC schedules three nonconference BCS schools just about every year (and frankly, UCLA's nonconference is seldom the Sisters of the Poor), then the bar is raised for the rest. No BCS conference school should ever schedule a D I-AA school, and they should do what they can to get the six top conferences (and a BYU or two spinkled in) to play each other in nonleague games.

Several years ago Ohio State, very publicly, decided to play all the D1 and IAA schools in Ohio as well as Youngstown State in order to give themselves a win, but opting to give those schools one goodsize paycheck game.
Playing a D-1AA outside Ohio, yeah. You are right. Playing Youngstown State? I argue with you. good for OSU; more larger state schools (Hello Alabama and Auburn) should do that.

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

That's fair for tOSU . . . . and I get scheduling Youngstown State for Tressel.

But what's every other school's excuse?

 

[Armchair_QB]

That's fair for tOSU . . . . and I get scheduling Youngstown State for Tressel.

But what's every other school's excuse?

Everybody wants 7 home games because they want the revenue.

 

[Mystery_Meat]

That's fair for tOSU . . . . and I get scheduling Youngstown State for Tressel.

But what's every other school's excuse?

Everybody wants 7 home games because they want the revenue.

And the schools that play designated victim like the money, too.

 

[schiezainc]

The BCS is an absolute piece of **** and until a playoff system is created, college football is a sham.

A sham.

Simple, true and anyone with an IQ of over 24 knows it.

Little League baseball has a playoff, bowling leagues have playoffs, college football? Oh, it's too complicated.

Suck it BCS! I refuse to watch any college games until you are nonexistent.

 

[Paper Dragon]

The BCS is an absolute piece of **** and until a playoff system is created, college football is a sham.

A sham.

Simple, true and anyone with an IQ of over 24 knows it.

Little League baseball has a playoff, bowling leagues have playoffs, college football? Oh, it's too complicated.

Suck it BCS! I refuse to watch any college games until you are nonexistent.

We're all so glad you weighed in.

 

[ScribePharisee]

Penn State has no business in the title game. If it's not the Big 12 champion against the SEC champion, it's a complete and total ****ing fraud this year.

You can make that argument. But good luck telling that to the voters if you have an 82-year-old Joe Paterno (who has already been screwed out of two titles in his life, and may never get this close again) sitting there with an undefeated team. I guar-an-damn-tee you they'd pull a Segei Bubka-esque vault over whoever's No. 2.

Then it's sentiment and not strength of teams?

 

[Armchair_QB]

The BCS is an absolute piece of **** and until a playoff system is created, college football is a sham.

A sham.

Simple, true and anyone with an IQ of over 24 knows it.

Little League baseball has a playoff, bowling leagues have playoffs, college football? Oh, it's too complicated.

Suck it BCS! I refuse to watch any college games until you are nonexistent.

I'm sure college football will find a way to survive without you.

 

[ScribePharisee]

Best of luck and leave the cash register open on your way out.

 

[zagoshe]

The thing I don't like about the BCS is that at the end of it all -- only the top two teams are relevant. I really think in this age of parity it should be meaningful to the top six -- and there is a playoff (with the top two teams getting a bye).

But I have no real issues with how it is calculated -- it seems to be balanced enough to be a reasonable evaluation of teams

 

[dooley_womack1]

I've stated on here before about my view of a 16-team playoff that would incorporate the bowls, most of which would become relevant for the first time ever. It would make March Madness look like a bake sale. But, sigh, it never gets traction here

 

[hockeybeat]

I've stated on here before about my view of a 16-team playoff that would incorporate the bowls, most of which would become relevant for the first time ever. It would make March Madness look like a bake sale. But, sigh, it never gets traction here

Dooles, my man, your theory makes far too much sense. And between the school presidents, conferences, bowls and host cities, we can't have that. Oh no. The American public needs the Poulan Weed Eater Independence Bowl. How will we ever survive without it?

 

[trifectarich]

Penn State has no business in the title game. If it's not the Big 12 champion against the SEC champion, it's a complete and total ****ing fraud this year.

Why don't we wait until the games are played? The BCS title game gets it wrong more often than right, so if that happens again, why should we be surprised?

 

[schiezainc]

When you put making money over the integrity of your league, you don't deserve to have fans.

 

[DanOregon]

So checking out the top 10, I figure Texas, Alabama, Penn State and perhaps Florida and USC could post an L at this point and still stay in the top 10, which might meen bad news for the non-BCS teams. The good news is that I don't see many teams behind the non-BCS schools that look ready to rise up and pass them in the rankings.