BCS is out....

[trifectarich]

I've stated on here before about my view of a 16-team playoff that would incorporate the bowls, most of which would become relevant for the first time ever.

And as the devil's advocate, the people who run the various bowls have no interest whatsoever in seeing their game(s), insignificant as they may seem to some, be eliminated and replaced by an NCAA playoff game.

Trust me, the Rose Bowl committee won't lift a finger to help a semifinal or championship game in Pasadena because it means the end of the Rose Bowl, period. Somebody against somebody in an NCAA semi or quarterfinal game just isn't the Rose Bowl.

Not saying a playoff isn't the way to go. But I believe those who think you could just incorporate the curent bowl games into the process, and that the numerous people who run the bowls would give up their golden goose to the NCAA, are sadly mistaken.

So why is the Poulan Weedeater Bowl and a dozen others like it so damn important? These are the bowls that struggle to sell 1,200 tickets to the fan base of each team, and the TV ratings aren't any better than informercials at 3 a.m. Why is their survival that much of a concern to the NCAA?

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Ohio State is higher and Florida is lower than I would have thought.

 

[sg86]

Ohio State is higher and Florida is lower than I would have thought.

I don't understand everyone thinking Florida should be so high.

Their only even remotely decent win came against an overrated LSU squad. The same LSU team that gave up 300+ yards of offense to Auburn — the same Auburn that could only put up three points on Mississippi State.

They lost to Ole Miss on their own field. They've beaten a crap Hawaii squad, a crap Miami squad, a crap Arkansas squad and the atrocious Tennessee Volunteers.

OSU's road win over Mich. St. is equal to Florida's home win against LSU.

OSU's next best win is over Minnesota which is better than Florida's next best win.

 

[dooley_womack1]

I've stated on here before about my view of a 16-team playoff that would incorporate the bowls, most of which would become relevant for the first time ever.

And as the devil's advocate, the people who run the various bowls have no interest whatsoever in seeing their game(s), insignificant as they may seem to some, be eliminated and replaced by an NCAA playoff game.

Trust me, the Rose Bowl committee won't lift a finger to help a semifinal or championship game in Pasadena because it means the end of the Rose Bowl, period. Somebody against somebody in an NCAA semi or quarterfinal game just isn't the Rose Bowl.

Not saying a playoff isn't the way to go. But I believe those who think you could just incorporate the curent bowl games into the process, and that the numerous people who run the bowls would give up their golden goose to the NCAA, are sadly mistaken.

The Rose Bowl would sell out as an NCAA semifinal or final, same as it does now. And it would take home a bigger check. And it still would have a Tournament of Roses Parade, et al. It would not suffer at all. Same with Sugar, Fiesta, etc.

Difference is, something like the GMAC Bowl, which draws flies, would sell out as an NCAA tournament first-round game. Nothing to fear but fear itself.

 

[Pancamo]

How much will the economy hurt the sponsorships and the BCS?

 

[trifectarich]

I've stated on here before about my view of a 16-team playoff that would incorporate the bowls, most of which would become relevant for the first time ever.

And as the devil's advocate, the people who run the various bowls have no interest whatsoever in seeing their game(s), insignificant as they may seem to some, be eliminated and replaced by an NCAA playoff game.

Trust me, the Rose Bowl committee won't lift a finger to help a semifinal or championship game in Pasadena because it means the end of the Rose Bowl, period. Somebody against somebody in an NCAA semi or quarterfinal game just isn't the Rose Bowl.

Not saying a playoff isn't the way to go. But I believe those who think you could just incorporate the curent bowl games into the process, and that the numerous people who run the bowls would give up their golden goose to the NCAA, are sadly mistaken.

The Rose Bowl would sell out as an NCAA semifinal or final, same as it does now. And it would take home a bigger check. And it still would have a Tournament of Roses Parade, et al. It would not suffer at all. Same with Sugar, Fiesta, etc.

Difference is, something like the GMAC Bowl, which draws flies, would sell out as an NCAA tournament first-round game. Nothing to fear but fear itself.

I'm not sure about those semifinal sellouts. You want Ohio State to sell 20,000 tickets to a Rose Bowl and then the next week do it again for, say, the Fiesta? Some schools might be able to pull this off (Ohio State among them), but I think it's a relatively small number. Even Southern Cal; is it going to send a ton of fans on consecutive weekends in New Orleans and Miami?

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Ohio State is higher and Florida is lower than I would have thought.

I don't understand everyone thinking Florida should be so high.

Their only even remotely decent win came against an overrated LSU squad. The same LSU team that gave up 300+ yards of offense to Auburn — the same Auburn that could only put up three points on Mississippi State.

They lost to Ole Miss on their own field. They've beaten a crap Hawaii squad, a crap Miami squad, a crap Arkansas squad and the atrocious Tennessee Volunteers.

OSU's road win over Mich. St. is equal to Florida's home win against LSU.

OSU's next best win is over Minnesota which is better than Florida's next best win.

I don't care where either game was played. Beating Michigan State is not even close to being the equivalent of beating LSU.

 

[dooley_womack1]

Because, of course there are only 20,000 Ohio State fans in the nation.

 

[king cranium maximus IV]

Ohio State is higher and Florida is lower than I would have thought.

The thing about Florida- as much as Herbie & Co. want to imagine that Ole Miss is straight up badass and not a bad loss, the Rebs are still 3-4 (1-3 SEC). Florida is Ole Miss' only SEC win- not Vandy, not South Carolina.

So yeah. Baaad loss.

 

[Tom Petty]

I've stated on here before about my view of a 16-team playoff that would incorporate the bowls, most of which would become relevant for the first time ever.

And as the devil's advocate, the people who run the various bowls have no interest whatsoever in seeing their game(s), insignificant as they may seem to some, be eliminated and replaced by an NCAA playoff game.

Trust me, the Rose Bowl committee won't lift a finger to help a semifinal or championship game in Pasadena because it means the end of the Rose Bowl, period. Somebody against somebody in an NCAA semi or quarterfinal game just isn't the Rose Bowl.

Not saying a playoff isn't the way to go. But I believe those who think you could just incorporate the curent bowl games into the process, and that the numerous people who run the bowls would give up their golden goose to the NCAA, are sadly mistaken.

The Rose Bowl would sell out as an NCAA semifinal or final, same as it does now. And it would take home a bigger check. And it still would have a Tournament of Roses Parade, et al. It would not suffer at all. Same with Sugar, Fiesta, etc.

Difference is, something like the GMAC Bowl, which draws flies, would sell out as an NCAA tournament first-round game. Nothing to fear but fear itself.

you''re discounting the rose bowl as just another bowl game. it is not.

 

[dooley_womack1]

It's not friggin' God and shouldn't hold change hostage. If it doesn't want to be part of the playoffs, fine. It can host North Texas against Idaho for all I care.

 

[king cranium maximus IV]

I've stated on here before about my view of a 16-team playoff that would incorporate the bowls, most of which would become relevant for the first time ever.

And as the devil's advocate, the people who run the various bowls have no interest whatsoever in seeing their game(s), insignificant as they may seem to some, be eliminated and replaced by an NCAA playoff game.

Trust me, the Rose Bowl committee won't lift a finger to help a semifinal or championship game in Pasadena because it means the end of the Rose Bowl, period. Somebody against somebody in an NCAA semi or quarterfinal game just isn't the Rose Bowl.

Not saying a playoff isn't the way to go. But I believe those who think you could just incorporate the curent bowl games into the process, and that the numerous people who run the bowls would give up their golden goose to the NCAA, are sadly mistaken.

The Rose Bowl would sell out as an NCAA semifinal or final, same as it does now. And it would take home a bigger check. And it still would have a Tournament of Roses Parade, et al. It would not suffer at all. Same with Sugar, Fiesta, etc.

Difference is, something like the GMAC Bowl, which draws flies, would sell out as an NCAA tournament first-round game. Nothing to fear but fear itself.

you''re discounting the rose bowl as just another bowl game. it is not.

Good for it. Who's a big Rose Bowl? Who's a big Rose Bowl? You are! Yesyouarrre! Yesyouarrre!

 

[Tom Petty]

It's not friggin' God and shouldn't hold change hostage. If it doesn't want to be part of the playoffs, fine. It can host North Texas against Idaho for all I care.

you're obviously not from the west coast and don't understand the tradition in pasadena. i thought your discounting the rose bowl with your north texas v. idaho line was telling.

history and tradition mean something. since you don't understand it, you're first in line to **** all over it, and i can't buy into that.

 

[dooley_womack1]

It's not bigger than the NCAA, and the money a tournament would make would far outstrip what the current bowl system produces, and the bowls would still be part of it. All I know is, there's a 64-team basketball tournament, and the final is no longer at 11:30 p.m. Eastern, as the UCLA-Memphis State final was in 73 or 74

 

[Tom Petty]

I've stated on here before about my view of a 16-team playoff that would incorporate the bowls, most of which would become relevant for the first time ever.

And as the devil's advocate, the people who run the various bowls have no interest whatsoever in seeing their game(s), insignificant as they may seem to some, be eliminated and replaced by an NCAA playoff game.

Trust me, the Rose Bowl committee won't lift a finger to help a semifinal or championship game in Pasadena because it means the end of the Rose Bowl, period. Somebody against somebody in an NCAA semi or quarterfinal game just isn't the Rose Bowl.

Not saying a playoff isn't the way to go. But I believe those who think you could just incorporate the curent bowl games into the process, and that the numerous people who run the bowls would give up their golden goose to the NCAA, are sadly mistaken.

The Rose Bowl would sell out as an NCAA semifinal or final, same as it does now. And it would take home a bigger check. And it still would have a Tournament of Roses Parade, et al. It would not suffer at all. Same with Sugar, Fiesta, etc.

Difference is, something like the GMAC Bowl, which draws flies, would sell out as an NCAA tournament first-round game. Nothing to fear but fear itself.

you''re discounting the rose bowl as just another bowl game. it is not.

Good for it. Who's a big Rose Bowl? Who's a big Rose Bowl? You are! Yesyouarrre! Yesyouarrre!

good god. just stick to blowing everything georgia, fanboi.

 

[Tom Petty]

It's not bigger than the NCAA, and the money a tournament would make would far outstrip what the current bowl system produces, and the bowls would still be part of it. All I know is, there's a 64-team basketball tournament, and the final is no longer at 11:30 p.m. Eastern, as the UCLA-Memphis State final was in 73 or 74

i never said it was bigger than the NCAA. i thought we were discussing why the rose bowl folks might be resistant to a new system.

 

[slappy4428]

It's not friggin' God and shouldn't hold change hostage. If it doesn't want to be part of the playoffs, fine. It can host North Texas against Idaho for all I care.

you're obviously not from the west coast and don't understand the tradition in pasadena. i thought your discounting the rose bowl with your north texas v. idaho line was telling.

history and tradition mean something. since you don't understand it, you're first in line to **** all over it, and i can't buy into that.

YEAH! Everyone knows that UTEP and Boise State would be a MUCH bigger draw... moran!

 

[dooley_womack1]

Well, TP, they seemed to get over no longer being a default Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup.

 

[hockeybeat]

Well, TP, they seemed to get over no longer being a default Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup.

The Big Four Bowls can still host a National Championship Game in a playoff system. Just like the BCS, rotate the Championship game among the Rose, Sugar, Orange and Fiesta Bowls.

 

[Tom Petty]

Well, TP, they seemed to get over no longer being a default Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup.

after some time, yeah, the bowl whored out to money. good for it, eh?