BCS is out....

[Piotr Rasputin]

It's not bigger than the NCAA

Apparently, it is.

As are all the major bowls, and the major conferences they are affiliated with.

Otherwise, we wouldn't be talking about the lack of a playoff. The NCAA would be able to step in and accomplish something, even with Myles Brand's flimsy "classes!!!!!" excuse.

And: if you think the Rose Bowl and its followers got over not being a traditional Big Ten/Pac-10 matchup every year, then you must not be reading the yearly bellyaching by local and national media about the loss of "tradition!" That does mean something to people. A lot of people.

 

[dooley_womack1]

And as a refresher for those not remembering it from three years ago, with one change:
--Automatic bids for the champions of the ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, Big East, SEC, Pac-10 and Mountain West.
--The champs of the WAC and the Sun Belt square off in a play-in for a berth.
--The champs of Conference USA and the MAC square off in a play-in for a berth.
--Have a committee pick seven at-large teams, and have it do the bracket.

That makes for 17 games, about half the existing bowls.

 

[shotglass]

I don't care if JoePa's corpse is propped upright in the box, Penn State has no business in the title game. It'd be just like Ohio State the last two years. Complete and total domination of a team from a **** conference by a team from a great conference.

All I can say is you obviously haven't seen them. Believe it or not, a football team can be a little more than a byproduct of its conference.

 

[dooley_womack1]

If Penn State beats Ohio State, they most definitely should be in the convo, especially if Bama keeps edging by

 

[93Devil]

If Penn State is undefeated and does not play in the title game, I may never watch college football until a playoof system is in place.

If Penn State is undefeated and is overtaken by Oklahoma or Florida for the right to play for the title, I will never watch college football until a playoff system is in place. I will also find Brand and make a loud statement about the intimacy he has with his mother and father.

And I don't even like Penn State.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

If Penn State is undefeated and does not play in the title game, I may never watch college football until a playoof system is in place.

If Penn State is undefeated and is overtaken by Oklahoma or Florida for the right to play for the title, I will never watch college football until a playoff system is in place. I will also find Brand and make a loud statement about the intimacy he has with his mother and father.

And I don't even like Penn State.

The Big Ten is so bad this year and the Big 12 and SEC are so good that I could very easily see a 1-loss team from either conference move ahead of an undefeated Penn State team.

It won't help that Penn State's season will be over a few weeks before the SEC and Big 12 are done. Granted, that can help as well since you can't lose if you're not playing...

 

[Chef]

I've said it before

I'll say it again.

Big
Crock of
****

 

[Football_Bat]

It's not bigger than the NCAA, and the money a tournament would make would far outstrip what the current bowl system produces, and the bowls would still be part of it. All I know is, there's a 64-team basketball tournament, and the final is no longer at 11:30 p.m. Eastern, as the UCLA-Memphis State final was in 73 or 74

1973.

At least it wasn't on tape delay like the NBA Finals. ;D

 

[dixiehack]

Well, TP, they seemed to get over no longer being a default Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup.

after some time, yeah, the bowl whored out to money. good for it, eh?

Whoever gets Petty for Secret Santa has got to ship this out.

http://www.cptr.ua.edu/news/roses.htm

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I've said it before

I'll say it again.

Big
Crock of
****

College football should be the best sport out there. The regular season is better than any sport, college or pro. But the postseason sucks and almost every year there is a very legitimate reason for a lot of people to be pissed about who plays for the title.

By comparison, the regular season for college hoops sucks by comparison, but the postseason is so perfect that it more than makes up for it.

A 16-team college football playoff would be the biggest sporting event in the country and would be far bigger than the Super Bowl if done right.

Instead they ruin it with this BCS **** every year.

 

[schiezainc]

Look, there's no excuse for the system the way it is.

You say the BCS makes every college football regular season game special? I call bull**** and point to the sheer number of lopsided games and pisspoor matchups.

You say it gives every team a chance to be in the title game? I call bull**** and point to the fact that unless you're Oklahoma, Ohio State, Florida, USC or Notre Dame, you could go undefeated and beat everyone you play by 60 and you're still on the bubble.

You cry about how a playoff would hurt important games like the Rose Bowl and talk about tradition? I ask you why one bowl game is more important than having a legit competition for the NCAA championship.

You talk about classes and scheduling? I point out that some teams have almost a month off from the end of their regular season to their bowl game and playing once a week seems to work for three months out the year so why not make it four?

You talk about smaller schools losing Bowl money? I say a playoff tournament would crush the amount of ad revenue and ticket sales currently generated just because it would draw average sports fans to the events as well as the current diehards. Look at the MLB playoffs. Casual fans are likely to watch this year's crappy World Series simply because the Phillies and Rays each came out of left field and over the course of a couple of weeks now have captivated audiences around the country. The ratings may not be great, but they would be vastly superior than the ones that would have happened had Bud Selig come out at the end of September and announced that this year's MLB championship game will feature "Philadelphia vs. Tampa Bay".

Any other arguments? I'd love to hear them.

 

[hockeybeat]

Look, there's no excuse for the system the way it is.

You say the BCS makes every college football regular season game special? I call bull**** and point to the sheer number of lopsided games and pisspoor matchups.

You say it gives every team a chance to be in the title game? I call bull**** and point to the fact that unless you're Oklahoma, Ohio State, Florida, USC or Notre Dame, you could go undefeated and beat everyone you play by 60 and you're still on the bubble.

You cry about how a playoff would hurt important games like the Rose Bowl and talk about tradition? I ask you why one bowl game is more important than having a legit competition for the NCAA championship.

You talk about classes and scheduling? I point out that some teams have almost a month off from the end of their regular season to their bowl game and playing once a week seems to work for three months out the year so why not make it four?

You talk about smaller schools losing Bowl money? I say a playoff tournament would crush the amount of ad revenue and ticket sales currently generated just because it would draw average sports fans to the events as well as the current diehards. Look at the MLB playoffs. Casual fans are likely to watch this year's crappy World Series simply because the Phillies and Rays each came out of left field and over the course of a couple of weeks now have captivated audiences around the country. The ratings may not be great, but they would be vastly superior than the ones that would have happened had Bud Selig come out at the end of September and announced that this year's MLB championship game will feature "Philadelphia vs. Tampa Bay".

Any other arguments? I'd love to hear them.

The missing class argument is a joke. How many basketball players miss class during the conference and national tournament(s)? What is the difference between that and football, other than the networks and school presidents don't want a playoff?

 

[Tom Petty]

Well, TP, they seemed to get over no longer being a default Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup.

after some time, yeah, the bowl whored out to money. good for it, eh?

Whoever gets Petty for Secret Santa has got to ship this out.

http://www.cptr.ua.edu/news/roses.htm

sonuvabitch.

 

[slappy4428]

Well, TP, they seemed to get over no longer being a default Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup.

after some time, yeah, the bowl whored out to money. good for it, eh?

Whoever gets Petty for Secret Santa has got to ship this out.

http://www.cptr.ua.edu/news/roses.htm

consider the source...

 

[micropolitan guy]

I did not say a playoff wouldn't work.

I said the scenario of using the current bowl system wouldn't work. The bowl organizers are not bigger than the NCAA, but they have no interest whatsoever in killing their own games by working with the NCAA in a playoff scenario.

Have you ever talked to a member of the Rose Bowl, or Fiesta Bowl, or Sun Bowl committees? I have. If their game goes away, so does their connection with football. There still would be a Rose Parade, a Fiesta Bowl and Sun Bowl basketball tournament, etc., and their year-round charity work would continue, but the Rose Bowl, Fiesta Bowl and Sun Bowl would cease to exist. Period. Would the world end? Probably not.

The semifinal games would probably sell out. The round of 16 and round of 8 games at neutral sites, probably not. That's why the I-AA, II and III games are on-campus until the finals.

 

[shotglass]

The whole point with the bowl system -- we all know it, but I don't think enough people make it clear to the public -- is the little old men in the colored blazers.

They still wield power because of their bowls and their money. Once they no longer wield power, the path for a college football playoff will be cleared.

 

[trifectarich]

I've said it before

I'll say it again.

Big
Crock of
****

College football should be the best sport out there. The regular season is better than any sport, college or pro. But the postseason sucks and almost every year there is a very legitimate reason for a lot of people to be pissed about who plays for the title.

By comparison, the regular season for college hoops sucks by comparison, but the postseason is so perfect that it more than makes up for it.

A 16-team college football playoff would be the biggest sporting event in the country and would be far bigger than the Super Bowl if done right.

Instead they ruin it with this BCS **** every year.

There's never been, and never will be, a season in which 16 teams have a legitimate claim to say it's the best team in the country. We have plenty of sports with too many teams in the playoffs. A college football playoff system with eight participants might even be one round too many.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Do you think there are 65 teams that have a legitimate claim to say they're the best hoops team in the country?

Make it eight teams, make it four, I don't care, but just make it a playoff rather than this crap they're giving us.

 

[micropolitan guy]

The NCAA will never agree to a Division I-A football playoff in which all the conferences are not represented, just like in basketball.

So 11 I-A champs and five at-large.
.

 

[dooley_womack1]

I wouldn't assume that. And the point is not if there are 16 teams with solid title hopes. The point is the possibility of a George Mason equivalent.