24: Redemption

[2muchcoffeeman]

It was OK...took a while to warm up. The ending was predictable yet worthwhile, where Jack has to do the noble thing in order to get the kids freed. And he looked happy in the last image, which is something you rarely get to see.

I think that's the "redemption" part: he turned himself in so that the children would get out on the last chopper, thus beginning the process of redeeming himself to himself for his past sins, real or imaginary. He's been flagellating himself for a long time now.

And the elimination of dopey drug guy was original even by 24 standards.

There's a plot point related to that which is going to be lurking in Season/Day 7 literally for hours, I think.

 

[Rhody31]

Yep. Just saw the ad.

Now i just wish they'd lower the prices on the first five seasons.

Go to Best Buy on XMas Eve.
Each season is 20 bucks - at least it has been the last two years. Fox drops the prices of all their shows, including the ones they produce and don't air on Fox.

 

[DanOregon]

I liked it. What 24 does better than any show is set up moments where you have no idea which way things are going to go - the land mine, the kid with the gun, the kids at the gate of the embassy.
Good stuff.

 

[schiezainc]

I'll tell you what. If season 7 is all about Jack trying to get redemption for his past sins and it spreads throughout the day, it has the potential to be one of the best seasons of the series.

I mean, think of all the people he killed and/or all the deaths he was responcible for, think of all the extreme things he did to others and try to find a way where he can turn that around.

In the beginning, you could justify it all by saying he was doing what was best for the country, but now it seems as if those acts are weighing on his conscience and it'll take a bigger act than just "being a hero" to scrub the blood off his hands.

 

[greenlantern]

Cannot wait for Jan. 11.
By the way, I think the show's pattern will make this seaon a good one.
Season One: Awesome.
Season Two: Crap (Oh no. Kim's caught in a bear trap. Her storyline ruined the whole season for me.)
Season Three: Awesome
Season Four: Too predictable.
Season Five: Awesome.
Season Six: Average. Nothing amazing after awhile.
Season Seven: ??? I predict Awesome.

 

[BYH]

Cannot wait for Jan. 11.
By the way, I think the show's pattern will make this seaon a good one.
Season One: Awesome.
Season Two: Crap (Oh no. Kim's caught in a bear trap. Her storyline ruined the whole season for me.)
Season Three: Awesome
Season Four: Too predictable.
Season Five: Awesome.
Season Six: Average. Nothing amazing after awhile.
Season Seven: ??? I predict Awesome.

Gotta disagree. I thought season two, even with Kim's stupid ****ing storyline with Johnny Drama, was the best season of network TV I'd ever seen. And what a cliffhanger.

They nearly lost me during season three, what a pile of crap that was for half a year. It saved itself with the most shocking scene ever (the execution of Chappelle) and the subsequent oh no they didn't act of killing an entire hotel. Season four was pretty good, season five was outstanding (w/another great cliffhanger), season six jumped the shark about nine times.

Not really expecting awesome out of this season, but I'll tune in and try to suspend disbelief every week anyway.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

I watch 24 every time it's on, but I haven't LOVED it since the end of Season 2, when they had some woman just walk up to David Palmer and transmit some fast-acting poison into his body with a handshake. This after they spent the entire first season setting up an elaborate scheme to assassinate him. Who knew it was so easy??

Then Season 3 starts and the resolution is, "Oh, he's fine."

Absolutely ruined the first two seasons.

 

[BYH]

I watch 24 every time it's on, but I haven't LOVED it since the end of Season 2, when they had some woman just walk up to David Palmer and transmit some fast-acting poison into his body with a handshake. This after they spent the entire first season setting up an elaborate scheme to assassinate him. Who knew it was so easy??

Then Season 3 starts and the resolution is, "Oh, he's fine."

Absolutely ruined the first two seasons.

He wasn't fine...he lived, obviously (until he got shot in the neck), but I'm pretty sure he was still weakened by whatever it was she gave him. They made it a point to show his screwed-up hand as often as possible.

 

[JakeandElwood]

Season 3 was my favorite. They had IMO the best villian, and then he was killed by an even better villain. Season 2 was second best for me, and I'm optimistic about the new one after last night.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

I watch 24 every time it's on, but I haven't LOVED it since the end of Season 2, when they had some woman just walk up to David Palmer and transmit some fast-acting poison into his body with a handshake. This after they spent the entire first season setting up an elaborate scheme to assassinate him. Who knew it was so easy??

Then Season 3 starts and the resolution is, "Oh, he's fine."

Absolutely ruined the first two seasons.

He wasn't fine...he lived, obviously (until he got shot in the neck), but I'm pretty sure he was still weakened by whatever it was she gave him. They made it a point to show his screwed-up hand as often as possible.

Come on! They left the freaking president convulsing on the curb, then come back with his scarred hand? No drama about his recovery? Hardly any insight into what were his diminished capacities? It was weak, and you are too easily pleased if you accepted it.

Worse resolution of a cliffhanger in TV history. Second-worst is when Sorkin had Bartlett's daughter get kidnapped on West Wing, then quit the show, and the new writers' resolution after a couple weeks of anguish was, "Oh, we found her!"

 

[Ace]

I watch 24 every time it's on, but I haven't LOVED it since the end of Season 2, when they had some woman just walk up to David Palmer and transmit some fast-acting poison into his body with a handshake. This after they spent the entire first season setting up an elaborate scheme to assassinate him. Who knew it was so easy??

Then Season 3 starts and the resolution is, "Oh, he's fine."

Absolutely ruined the first two seasons.

He wasn't fine...he lived, obviously (until he got shot in the neck), but I'm pretty sure he was still weakened by whatever it was she gave him. They made it a point to show his screwed-up hand as often as possible.

Come on! They left the freaking president convulsing on the curb, then come back with his scarred hand? No drama about his recovery? Hardly any insight into what were his diminished capacities? It was weak, and you are too easily pleased if you accepted it.

Worse resolution of a cliffhanger in TV history. Second-worst is when Sorkin had Bartlett's daughter get kidnapped on West Wing, then quit the show, and the new writers' resolution after a couple weeks of anguish was, "Oh, we found her!"

It wasa a bit weird. I just assumed that President Palmer had a hearty constitution -- or perhaps a weak handshake.

 

[BYH]

I watch 24 every time it's on, but I haven't LOVED it since the end of Season 2, when they had some woman just walk up to David Palmer and transmit some fast-acting poison into his body with a handshake. This after they spent the entire first season setting up an elaborate scheme to assassinate him. Who knew it was so easy??

Then Season 3 starts and the resolution is, "Oh, he's fine."

Absolutely ruined the first two seasons.

He wasn't fine...he lived, obviously (until he got shot in the neck), but I'm pretty sure he was still weakened by whatever it was she gave him. They made it a point to show his screwed-up hand as often as possible.

Come on! They left the freaking president convulsing on the curb, then come back with his scarred hand? No drama about his recovery? Hardly any insight into what were his diminished capacities? It was weak, and you are too easily pleased if you accepted it.

Shut your mouth!

It's 24. It doesn't have time for back story, or flashbacks. Even the damn filling in the blanks movie ran in real time.

I'll agree it was a little abrupt, but ****, if you're looking for logic and believability in 24, you are looking at the wrong show.

 

[Big Circus]

Cannot wait for Jan. 11.
By the way, I think the show's pattern will make this seaon a good one.
Season One: Awesome.
Season Two: Crap (Oh no. Kim's caught in a bear trap. Her storyline ruined the whole season for me.)
Season Three: Awesome
Season Four: Too predictable.
Season Five: Awesome.
Season Six: Average. Nothing amazing after awhile.
Season Seven: ??? I predict Awesome.

Gotta disagree. I thought season two, even with Kim's stupid ****ing storyline with Johnny Drama, was the best season of network TV I'd ever seen. And what a cliffhanger.

They nearly lost me during season three, what a pile of crap that was for half a year. It saved itself with the most shocking scene ever (the execution of Chappelle) and the subsequent oh no they didn't act of killing an entire hotel. Season four was pretty good, season five was outstanding (w/another great cliffhanger), season six jumped the shark about nine times.

Not really expecting awesome out of this season, but I'll tune in and try to suspend disbelief every week anyway.

I'll weigh in on this. It's worth noting that I watched the first three seasons on DVD and the rest on TV, which dovetails nicely with my opinion.

Season 1: awesome.
Season 2: equally awesome.
Season 3: even more awesome.
Season 4: worst of the bunch. Least satisfying ending I can remember in a TV season.
Season 5: a step back in the right direction.
Season 6: somewhere between 4 and 5.

So in order of awesomeness: 3, 1, 2, 5, 6, 4. Maybe it's just better when you can watch back-to-back and don't have a week to dissect. My coworker has a theory that the prime-numbered seasons are the good ones, which bodes well for this year.

 

[sporting_guista]

This was a good table-setter, but the best part about the two hours was the trailer for the upcoming season. Not sure what that says about Redemption.

 

[RedSmithClone]

What past sins is he trying to earn "Redemption" for?

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

What past sins is he trying to earn "Redemption" for?

In addition to what the Congressional committee wants to discuss, consider the things he blames himself for. The person he trusted the most at CTU during Day 1 --- Nina Meyers --- turned out to be a traitor who murdered his wife. The last time we saw Audrey Raines, she was in a coma because of him. He's alienated from his daughter, who probably thinks he really has died this time. And all those ghosts haunting him . . . all his friends and co-workers whose violent deaths he's had to come to terms with.

 

[KYSportsWriter]

What past sins is he trying to earn "Redemption" for?

In addition to what the Congressional committee wants to discuss, consider the things he blames himself for. The person he trusted the most at CTU during Day 1 --- Nina Meyers --- turned out to be a traitor who murdered his wife. The last time we saw Audrey Raines, she was in a coma because of him. He's alienated from his daughter, who probably thinks he really has died this time. And all those ghosts haunting him . . . all his friends and co-workers whose violent deaths he's had to come to terms with.

Not to mention when Michelle was killed after being called into work. And when Tony "died."

 

[Ace]

He killed Curtis to protect a terrorist!

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

He killed Curtis to protect a terrorist!

That, too. If you have to do that in real life, wouldn't you carry around a 747 full of emotional baggage?

 

[bostonbred]

I can't wait to see Chloe again.