WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE?

[Appgrad05]

We have one of those guys, his title is a typist.
Essentially, he put the paper together in those pre-computer days. When we went digital, no one had the heart to tell him he was out of a job, so he makes more than any of us and basically surfs the internet for five hours a day (and people wonder why he keeps pushing back his retirement).

 

[RedCanuck]

despite what the ****s in circuation told you, no, no, people don't like to read names, which is why you don't read the white pages until you fall asleep at night. if it were that ****ing easy we'd print the phone book, run the mugs we have with names and we'd all be out of work in a week or so.

Especially in individual sports, people, i.e. grandmothers, parents, and athletes, do like reading names and will buy a paper because of it. The ****s in circulation don't have to tell me that, so much as the coaches and parents who are always trying to get more names in my damn paper have proven.

I don't see any problem with devoting a small chunk of my space to agate to give them that, while concentrating the bulk of space on my stories, which gives the people who don't want to read names something worth reading.

There are both types of readers and it is a fallacy that you can't somehow adhere to both. Agate can be a necessary evil, particularly when it saves you a time-eating phone call asking why Little Local Timmy isn't listed in your rag at all.

 

[Tom Petty]

despite what the ****s in circuation told you, no, no, people don't like to read names, which is why you don't read the white pages until you fall asleep at night. if it were that ****ing easy we'd print the phone book, run the mugs we have with names and we'd all be out of work in a week or so. 

Especially in individual sports, people, i.e. grandmothers, parents, and athletes, do like reading names and will buy a paper because of it.  The ****s in circulation don't have to tell me that, so much as the coaches and parents who are always trying to get more names in my damn paper have proven.

I don't see any problem with devoting a small chunk of my space to agate to give them that, while concentrating the bulk of space on my stories, which gives the people who don't want to read names something worth reading.   

There are both types of readers and it is a fallacy that you can't somehow adhere to both.  Agate can be a necessary evil, particularly when it saves you a time-eating phone call asking why Little Local Timmy isn't listed in your rag at all.

then the bar at your paper was lowered to white page levels long, long ago.

 

[expendable]

despite what the ****s in circuation told you, no, no, people don't like to read names, which is why you don't read the white pages until you fall asleep at night. if it were that ****ing easy we'd print the phone book, run the mugs we have with names and we'd all be out of work in a week or so. 

Especially in individual sports, people, i.e. grandmothers, parents, and athletes, do like reading names and will buy a paper because of it.  The ****s in circulation don't have to tell me that, so much as the coaches and parents who are always trying to get more names in my damn paper have proven.

I don't see any problem with devoting a small chunk of my space to agate to give them that, while concentrating the bulk of space on my stories, which gives the people who don't want to read names something worth reading.   

There are both types of readers and it is a fallacy that you can't somehow adhere to both.  Agate can be a necessary evil, particularly when it saves you a time-eating phone call asking why Little Local Timmy isn't listed in your rag at all.

then the bar at your paper was lowered to white page levels long, long ago.

It happens. And the problem gets too big for any one man to fight. Worse for me is that my publisher's kids swim on the local Y-team, which means not only does it get in, it gets prime space with a photo taken by my boss from the stands (yes sir, that is a great photo :. Can I have a raise?).

 

[Tom Petty]

despite what the ****s in circuation told you, no, no, people don't like to read names, which is why you don't read the white pages until you fall asleep at night. if it were that ****ing easy we'd print the phone book, run the mugs we have with names and we'd all be out of work in a week or so. 

Especially in individual sports, people, i.e. grandmothers, parents, and athletes, do like reading names and will buy a paper because of it.  The ****s in circulation don't have to tell me that, so much as the coaches and parents who are always trying to get more names in my damn paper have proven.

I don't see any problem with devoting a small chunk of my space to agate to give them that, while concentrating the bulk of space on my stories, which gives the people who don't want to read names something worth reading.   

There are both types of readers and it is a fallacy that you can't somehow adhere to both.  Agate can be a necessary evil, particularly when it saves you a time-eating phone call asking why Little Local Timmy isn't listed in your rag at all.

then the bar at your paper was lowered to white page levels long, long ago.

It happens.  And the problem gets too big for any one man to fight.  Worse for me is that my publisher's kids swim on the local Y-team, which means not only does it get in, it gets prime space with a photo taken by my boss from the stands (yes sir, that is a great photo :.  Can I have a raise?). 

ex - with that, i say i'm sorry. publishers with kids should never be allowed to speak to their own sports departments.

i feel your pain, really, kind of. i started in ****dunk usa, just became SE of the section, which was respected by those who read it. we covered preps like nobody's biz and pretty much kicked ass. new pub comes in, and decides to introduce the whole 'names and faces' line of **** to the paper's readers and staff. dip**** actually wrote his version of what sports stories should look like and filed 'em. sooner than later, he became tired of seeing his laundry list of names buried on page 4. before he was able to get around to firing my ass, he had a 'change of heart' and moved back to the ****ty little town he moved from.

i left that stop many years ago, but still see the stupid look on ****tard's face when he explained to me what 'true journalism' really was all about. even though i no longer have to stomach white pages journalism, every time i read about it or see it, i pray to god that douchebag is tasting the bottom side of sack while watching hockey in a prison cell somewhere in one of those northern states he came from.

****ing white pages journalism ... that statement is an oxymoron in itself.

 

[Tom Petty]

despite what the ****s in circuation told you, no, no, people don't like to read names, which is why you don't read the white pages until you fall asleep at night. if it were that ****ing easy we'd print the phone book, run the mugs we have with names and we'd all be out of work in a week or so. 

Especially in individual sports, people, i.e. grandmothers, parents, and athletes, do like reading names and will buy a paper because of it.  The ****s in circulation don't have to tell me that, so much as the coaches and parents who are always trying to get more names in my damn paper have proven.

I don't see any problem with devoting a small chunk of my space to agate to give them that, while concentrating the bulk of space on my stories, which gives the people who don't want to read names something worth reading.   

There are both types of readers and it is a fallacy that you can't somehow adhere to both.  Agate can be a necessary evil, particularly when it saves you a time-eating phone call asking why Little Local Timmy isn't listed in your rag at all.

i don't know why i bother ... you have long ago become someone's *****.

oh yeah, tell LLT i said hello and congrats on swimming the 200 in 58 minutes.

 

[Bamadog]

despite what the ****s in circuation told you, no, no, people don't like to read names, which is why you don't read the white pages until you fall asleep at night. if it were that ****ing easy we'd print the phone book, run the mugs we have with names and we'd all be out of work in a week or so.

Especially in individual sports, people, i.e. grandmothers, parents, and athletes, do like reading names and will buy a paper because of it. The ****s in circulation don't have to tell me that, so much as the coaches and parents who are always trying to get more names in my damn paper have proven.

I don't see any problem with devoting a small chunk of my space to agate to give them that, while concentrating the bulk of space on my stories, which gives the people who don't want to read names something worth reading.

There are both types of readers and it is a fallacy that you can't somehow adhere to both. Agate can be a necessary evil, particularly when it saves you a time-eating phone call asking why Little Local Timmy isn't listed in your rag at all.

then the bar at your paper was lowered to white page levels long, long ago.

It happens. And the problem gets too big for any one man to fight. Worse for me is that my publisher's kids swim on the local Y-team, which means not only does it get in, it gets prime space with a photo taken by my boss from the stands (yes sir, that is a great photo :. Can I have a raise?).

ex - with that, i say i'm sorry. publishers with kids should never be allowed to speak to their own sports departments.

i feel your pain, really, kind of. i started in ****dunk usa, just became SE of the section, which was respected by those who read it. we covered preps like nobody's biz and pretty much kicked ass. new pub comes in, and decides to introduce the whole 'names and faces' line of **** to the paper's readers and staff. dip**** actually wrote his version of what sports stories should look like and filed 'em. sooner than later, he became tired of seeing his laundry list of names buried on page 4. before he was able to get around to firing my ass, he had a 'change of heart' and moved back to the ****ty little town he moved from.

i left that stop many years ago, but still see the stupid look on ****tard's face when he explained to me what 'true journalism' really was all about. even though i no longer have to stomach white pages journalism, every time i read about it or see it, i pray to god that douchebag is tasting the bottom side of sack while watching hockey in a prison cell somewhere in one of those northern states he came from.

****ing white pages journalism ... that statement is an oxymoron in itself.

Sounds like my last editor! He brought us in to ream us a new one about our "lack" of youth sports coverage even though the entire staff was out covering those dumbass baseball tournaments every single day. When I mean every single day, I went two weeks without a day off. Every day I had to drive two hours to cover some baseball tournament in a place that would have inspired Dante of the Divine Comedy fame to say:

"Hell ain't got nothin' on this place!"

Back to the story. Of course, both of the editor's sons played. He said, "Well, this is not just because my kids play" or something to that effect. The entire sports department, sitting in his office, had to bite our tongues to keep from laughing.

I could see a gigantic B.S. flag rising and flapping in the breeze.

A few weeks later, he said, "you guys are really kicking ass with your coverage." We were doing the same stuff that he chewed our asses about.

And people wonder why I left there.

 

[Tom Petty]

some people might wonder why you left bama, but i'm sure you don't stay awake too many nights.

 

[expendable]

despite what the ****s in circuation told you, no, no, people don't like to read names, which is why you don't read the white pages until you fall asleep at night. if it were that ****ing easy we'd print the phone book, run the mugs we have with names and we'd all be out of work in a week or so. 

Especially in individual sports, people, i.e. grandmothers, parents, and athletes, do like reading names and will buy a paper because of it.  The ****s in circulation don't have to tell me that, so much as the coaches and parents who are always trying to get more names in my damn paper have proven.

I don't see any problem with devoting a small chunk of my space to agate to give them that, while concentrating the bulk of space on my stories, which gives the people who don't want to read names something worth reading.   

There are both types of readers and it is a fallacy that you can't somehow adhere to both.  Agate can be a necessary evil, particularly when it saves you a time-eating phone call asking why Little Local Timmy isn't listed in your rag at all.

then the bar at your paper was lowered to white page levels long, long ago.

It happens.  And the problem gets too big for any one man to fight.  Worse for me is that my publisher's kids swim on the local Y-team, which means not only does it get in, it gets prime space with a photo taken by my boss from the stands (yes sir, that is a great photo :.  Can I have a raise?). 

ex - with that, i say i'm sorry. publishers with kids should never be allowed to speak to their own sports departments.

i feel your pain, really, kind of. i started in ****dunk usa, just became SE of the section, which was respected by those who read it. we covered preps like nobody's biz and pretty much kicked ass. new pub comes in, and decides to introduce the whole 'names and faces' line of **** to the paper's readers and staff. dip**** actually wrote his version of what sports stories should look like and filed 'em. sooner than later, he became tired of seeing his laundry list of names buried on page 4. before he was able to get around to firing my ass, he had a 'change of heart' and moved back to the ****ty little town he moved from.

i left that stop many years ago, but still see the stupid look on ****tard's face when he explained to me what 'true journalism' really was all about. even though i no longer have to stomach white pages journalism, every time i read about it or see it, i pray to god that douchebag is tasting the bottom side of sack while watching hockey in a prison cell somewhere in one of those northern states he came from.

****ing white pages journalism ... that statement is an oxymoron in itself.

Actually, he's a pretty cool guy. It's a small family-owned shop (same guy) and as long as I work his stuff in -- along with some other youth stuff to keep other parents, from as he puts it, "bitching at him", I have a ton of independence otherwise. I have to choose my battles and I know I'd lose this one, so there's no reason to fight it.

 

[BillyT]

Contact the coach/YMCA.

Tell them that in order for these results to run, they have to be e-mailed to you and specify the format.

 

[DyePack]

Contact the coach/YMCA.

Tell them that in order for these results to run, they have to be e-mailed to you and specify the format.

Then lose the e-mail.

 

[Bamadog]

some people might wonder why you left bama, but i'm sure you don't stay awake too many nights.

Life is good. As for naming every kid who participates, I'm not a big fan of it at all. Why are people so obsessed with their offspring getting their 10 or 15 seconds of fame? I never have understood it, at all. Everyone says, wait until you have kids in youth sports.

Uh, I don't think I'll ever be like that.