Weekly global warming/climate change pissing match

[BYH]

Connecticut is going to get up to 18 inches of snow today. During Halloween weekend. With 1.3 inches in Central Park, NYC has already had its biggest snowfall ever for this time of year. But noooooo nothing's wonky. Everything is perfectly normal.

(Hurry get in before the lock!)

 

[YGBFKM]

The 18 inches of snow in Connecticut at this time of year are records, right? Nothing like this has ever happpened?

 

[Ben_Hecht]

Connecticut is going to get up to 18 inches of snow today. During Halloween weekend. With 1.3 inches in Central Park, NYC has already had its biggest snowfall ever for this time of year. But noooooo nothing's wonky. Everything is perfectly normal.

(Hurry get in before the lock!)

They don't care. They're raping Mother Earth while waiting for their first-class seats to The Rapture.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

The 18 inches of snow in Connecticut at this time of year are records, right? Nothing like this has ever happpened?

Not to this degree, anywhere near this early. Only thing close was a freak ten-inch dump in the CT
Northern Foothills even EARLIER this month . . . in the late '80's, IIRC.

 

[BYH]

The 18 inches of snow in Connecticut at this time of year are records, right? Nothing like this has ever happpened?

Records already shattered in most of the state, with the rest soon to come.

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Connecticut-October-snow-snowstorm--132771003.html?abc

And Ben is right re: late '80s freak storm.

 

[YGBFKM]

My problem with the global warming "debate" is that it takes on the characteristics of every politically charged discussion. Each side runs immediately to "The other side doesn't believe in/denies the existence of fill-in-the-blank issue." There is never any room for perspective. I agree that global warming exists and that it is harmful to the environment. But I do not agree with the Chicken Little Wing of the Democratic Party that the problem is solely man-made and capitalism should be punished for it. The solutions on the hard left would destroy the American economy (the same one those same people are so worried about when it comes to other issues), and the "It snowed today, so global warming is a crock" types on the hard right are just being purposefully ignorant. Basically, this big issue is like any big issue in the country today: The argument is what people are focused on, and the problem and realistic solutions for it gets shoved aside.

 

[BYH]

My problem with the global warming "debate" is that it takes on the characteristics of every politically charged discussion. Each side runs immediately to "The other side doesn't believe in/denies the existence of fill-in-the-blank issue." There is never any room for perspective. I agree that global warming exists and that it is harmful to the environment. But I do not agree with the Chicken Little Wing of the Democratic Party that the problem is solely man-made and capitalism should be punished for it. The solutions on the hard left would destroy the American economy (the same one those same people are so worried about when it comes to other issues), and the "It snowed today, so global warming is a crock" types on the hard right are just being purposefully ignorant. Basically, this big issue is like any big issue in the country today: The argument is what people are focused on, and the problem and realistic solutions for it gets shoved aside.

Goddamnit this type of reasoned debate isn't what I was trying to spark here!!!!!!! :D :D :D

 

[Ben_Hecht]

My problem with the global warming "debate" is that it takes on the characteristics of every politically charged discussion. Each side runs immediately to "The other side doesn't believe in/denies the existence of fill-in-the-blank issue." There is never any room for perspective. I agree that global warming exists and that it is harmful to the environment. But I do not agree with the Chicken Little Wing of the Democratic Party that the problem is solely man-made and capitalism should be punished for it. The solutions on the hard left would destroy the American economy (the same one those same people are so worried about when it comes to other issues), and the "It snowed today, so global warming is a crock" types on the hard right are just being purposefully ignorant. Basically, this big issue is like any big issue in the country today: The argument is what people are focused on, and the problem and realistic solutions for it gets shoved aside.

Goddamnit this type of reasoned debate isn't what I was trying to spark here!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Yep, that was fair. There's been a measurable degree of growth on this board (among the survivors!) regarding political issues, and that's good.

 

[HejiraHenry]

Snow someplace today is weather. It has almost nothing to do with the larger topic of climate, which I think it's fair to say that almost no one on this board has the chops to grapple with. And I don't intend to be mean about that. But if you did, you wouldn't be in sports writing, you'd be off trying to win a Nobel Prize.

 

[BYH]

I don't need a Nobel Prize to know 18 inches of snow in Connecticut on Halloween weekend isn't normal.

 

[holy bull]

OK, have you seen the commercial for "Happy Feet Two"? Well, think about it, that movie NEVER HAPPENS if the corporate interests in this country continue to trash the polar icecaps with their oil-grabbin', ozone-depletin' ways. Forget the fact that this small independent project would never have been made. There would be no penguins!!!

(Trying my darndest to get this back on its intended track in spite of all this goody-goody rational thought and calm, measured rhetoric, BYH)

 

[slappy4428]

1987... 48 hours after the Twins win the World Series... Starts snowing in Minneapolis on Halloween afternoon. By the time Trick or Treaters start, there's six inches of snow on the ground and climbing.
By the time it was done a day or so later, there's like three feet on the ground and my parents don't see their mailbox until April.

 

[Armchair_QB]

1987... 48 hours after the Twins win the World Series... Starts snowing in Minneapolis on Halloween afternoon. By the time Trick or Treaters start, there's six inches of snow on the ground and climbing.
By the time it was done a day or so later, there's like three feet on the ground and my parents don't see their mailbox until April.

Remember that very well.

Also remember getting snow flurries in early May one spring too.

 

[Stitch]

I'm just lucky to have power. Our township was spared this time, even with a foot of snow. Most of the leaves have fallen off where I live up in the middle of the Poconos, which kept trees from falling on power lines.

 

[slappy4428]

1987... 48 hours after the Twins win the World Series... Starts snowing in Minneapolis on Halloween afternoon. By the time Trick or Treaters start, there's six inches of snow on the ground and climbing.
By the time it was done a day or so later, there's like three feet on the ground and my parents don't see their mailbox until April.

I lied.. was 1991.

 

[Machine Head]

1987... 48 hours after the Twins win the World Series... Starts snowing in Minneapolis on Halloween afternoon. By the time Trick or Treaters start, there's six inches of snow on the ground and climbing.
By the time it was done a day or so later, there's like three feet on the ground and my parents don't see their mailbox until April.

I lied.. was 1991.

It just kept snowing and snowing and snowing.

 

[SpeedTchr]

1987... 48 hours after the Twins win the World Series... Starts snowing in Minneapolis on Halloween afternoon. By the time Trick or Treaters start, there's six inches of snow on the ground and climbing.
By the time it was done a day or so later, there's like three feet on the ground and my parents don't see their mailbox until April.

I lied.. was 1991.

Indeed it was. I called the Wisconsin highway patrol to ask about road conditions and was told, "you're on your own bud."

 

[Herbert Anchovy]

Now I'm going to have to be a wampa for Halloween.

 

[Machine Head]

1987... 48 hours after the Twins win the World Series... Starts snowing in Minneapolis on Halloween afternoon. By the time Trick or Treaters start, there's six inches of snow on the ground and climbing.
By the time it was done a day or so later, there's like three feet on the ground and my parents don't see their mailbox until April.

Remember that very well.

Also remember getting snow flurries in early May one spring too.

From today's Strib:

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/132858378.html

The pictures of cars brings back some memories.

 

[Brooklyn Bridge]

I'm one of the 800,000 without power. Especially difficult this time of year because of the cold. Second significant impact storm in two months. My street looks like a warzone with trees down and power lines across the road in a half dozen places