The Consulate Thread

[Moderator1]

Talk about it here BUT STICK TO THE TOPIC and if you can't do that without veering off into Obama sucks/Romney sucks, stay away. We're THIS CLOSE to some political conversation news, don't be a stupidhead and make us change our minds.

And stop PMing me about the first thread. I didn't lock it - but don't PM the person who did, either. It was the right call.

Carry on but do it cautiously and use your head.

 

[Moderator1]

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Let me add if we have to lock this one quickly, we will rethink what we're thinking on political talk. Yeah, that sounds like a threat. I apologize - though it may be one!

Carry on again.

 

[Azrael]

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Here's the Times' latest.


www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/world/middleeast/us-envoy-to-libya-is-reported-killed.html?hp

 

[Azrael]

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Still few details on the circumstances, but worth noting that Benghazi is a consulate, not an embassy, and not as heavily fortified.

 

[Uncle.Ruckus]

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"Make no mistake, justice will be done," President Obama said.

 

[Armchair_QB]

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Still few details on the circumstances, but worth noting that Benghazi is a consulate, not an embassy, and not as heavily fortified.

Well that makes it ok then. Carry on.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

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Still few details on the circumstances, but worth noting that Benghazi is a consulate, not an embassy, and not as heavily fortified.

Well that makes it ok then. Carry on.

Yeah, that was his point.

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[Uncle.Ruckus]

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Still few details on the circumstances, but worth noting that Benghazi is a consulate, not an embassy, and not as heavily fortified.

Well that makes it ok then. Carry on.

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[rejectedsportswriter]

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Still few details on the circumstances, but worth noting that Benghazi is a consulate, not an embassy, and not as heavily fortified.

Well that makes it ok then. Carry on.

It's about getting the facts right, but stay classy supporting the Great White Hope.

 

[Armchair_QB]

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And I'm sure it's of great comfort to the family of the ambassador who was blown up that they attacked a consulate and not an embassy.

 

[Azrael]

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And I'm sure it's of great comfort to the family of the ambassador who was blown up that they attacked a consulate and not an embassy.

It might have been the difference between him living and him dying.

Do you not think that's important?

 

[Armchair_QB]

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Still few details on the circumstances, but worth noting that Benghazi is a consulate, not an embassy, and not as heavily fortified.

Well that makes it ok then. Carry on.

It's about getting the facts right, but stay classy supporting the Great White Hope.

Uh, this is called the Embassy thread because it referred to the Cario Embassy thread that was locked.

Facts and all...

 

[Azrael]

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Was anyone hurt inside the US embassy in Cairo?

 

[Uncle.Ruckus]

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Still few details on the circumstances, but worth noting that Benghazi is a consulate, not an embassy, and not as heavily fortified.

Well that makes it ok then. Carry on.

It's about getting the facts right, but stay classy supporting the Great White Hope.

Uh, this is called the Embassy thread because it referred to the Cario Embassy thread that was locked.

Facts and all...

Cairo.

And Benghazi is in Libya.

Facts and all ...

 

[YankeeFan]

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Isn't Benghazi essentially the seat of the new government?

I'm guessing it's where our Ambassador spent the majority of his time. Embassy or not, our Ambassador and his staff should be kept safe.

 

[rejectedsportswriter]

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Still few details on the circumstances, but worth noting that Benghazi is a consulate, not an embassy, and not as heavily fortified.

Well that makes it ok then. Carry on.

It's about getting the facts right, but stay classy supporting the Great White Hope.

Uh, this is called the Embassy thread because it referred to the Cario Embassy thread that was locked.

Facts and all...

Buried the lede.

 

[Armchair_QB]

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And I'm sure it's of great comfort to the family of the ambassador who was blown up that they attacked a consulate and not an embassy.

It might have been the difference between him living and him dying.

Do you not think that's important?

What's important is that two of our diplomatic compounds were attacked for no reason and an ambassador was killed - either at the consulate or in his vehicle. And if it was in his vehicle it doesn't matter if it was a consulate or an embassy.

 

[Uncle.Ruckus]

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Embassy or not, our Ambassador and his staff should be kept safe.

No kidding. But no one can be kept safe 100 percent of the time.

 

[Stoney]

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The film's trailer:



Boy, looks like a real high quality production. How many ever would've even heard of this "film", much less watched it, if not for the reaction--maybe 50?

What a ridiculous cause for international crisis. We live in an age where just about anybody with a youtube account and some basic equipment is capable of creating comparable schlock--sure hope the muslim brotherhood doesn't plan on blaming our govt and fomenting riot every time someone does.

 

[Azrael]

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And I'm sure it's of great comfort to the family of the ambassador who was blown up that they attacked a consulate and not an embassy.

It might have been the difference between him living and him dying.

Do you not think that's important?

What's important is that two of our diplomatic compounds were attacked for no reason and an ambassador was killed - either at the consulate or in his vehicle. And if it was in his vehicle it doesn't matter if it was a consulate or an embassy.

If they were trying to evacuate the consulate because it wasn't safe, it certainly matters.

On the original thread I wondered whether his security was a US Marine contingent, or US State Department security or whether it was a private contractor like Blackwater/Xe/Academi.

All of that matters, whether you try to shoehorn this into some ideological cubbyhole or not.

The foreign service, especially in the middle east, especially now, is dangerous work.