Survivor: Blood Vs. Water

[partain]

Bringing back Colton apparently.

Oh well, I was looking to dump a few shows this season anyway. He really took being mean and hateful to new levels. You'd think a gay republican from the south would have a little more sympathy for minorities.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I like the concept of playing with and against loved ones, but I hate that they are reviving Redemption Island.

 

[DanOregon]

I've never been one to pooh-pooh a season before it airs or gnash my teeth at returning players, but this season just doesn't interest me. It isn't so much bringing back Colton, or Redemption Island, and I think loved ones is an interesting twist, BUT - would have been more interesting if it wasn't returning players against their loved ones, it would have been more interesting if it wasn't obvious everyone had another connection on the island, it would have been more interesting if there were far fewer returning players, maybe six total.
The biggest thing I watch the show for is seeing how strangers develop relationships and a social structure, and how that changes as first impressions give way to actual performance, strategy and social skills. This one has the stink of a reunion show.

 

[MTM]

Rupert again? Really?
It's his fourth time. Can't the producers find anybody new?

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I've never been one to pooh-pooh a season before it airs or gnash my teeth at returning players, but this season just doesn't interest me. It isn't so much bringing back Colton, or Redemption Island, and I think loved ones is an interesting twist, BUT - would have been more interesting if it wasn't returning players against their loved ones, it would have been more interesting if it wasn't obvious everyone had another connection on the island, it would have been more interesting if there were far fewer returning players, maybe six total.
The biggest thing I watch the show for is seeing how strangers develop relationships and a social structure, and how that changes as first impressions give way to actual performance, strategy and social skills. This one has the stink of a reunion show.

I think that's my problem with this season and it's that, it could be so much better with a few tweeks here or there...

I would make everybody play with a member of their immediate family. Mix up the tribes, eliminate Redemption Island and you have another watchable season.

I'll still watch at the beginning of this season, but I have a feeling I'll bail after a few weeks...

 

[Buck]

Speaking as a fan, I don't need any twists.
I like the regular game.

 

[bigpern23]

Speaking as a fan, I don't need any twists.
I like the regular game.

Has there ever been a "regular game?" Seems like every season always has new twists, turns, rules and surprises.

I despise that they're bringing Colton back.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I don't mind returning players as long as they don't always do it. I like all-star seasons.

I think as soon as Russell had that season where he found an immunity idol almost every week, they should have gotten rid of it.

Redemption Island was the worst idea this show has ever had.

 

[Buck]

Speaking as a fan, I don't need any twists.
I like the regular game.

Has there ever been a "regular game?" Seems like every season always has new twists, turns, rules and surprises.

I despise that they're bringing Colton back.

The first several seasons didn't really have twists.
I guess the hidden immunity idols were a twist.

I just don't have any use for redemption island. I think it ruins the season.
I've got no use for everybody in a single camp.
I've got no use for returning players anymore.

I enjoy two teams of new players with two challenges - reward and immunity - per episode.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I guess now that I think about it, I would rather have regular seasons with the occasional all-stars mixed in every 10 seasons (five years) or so. I think that was one of the problems Survivor and Big Brother for that matter, had in recent seasons was that too many returning players for too many seasons made the pool to have an occasional player return seem a bit more shallow. It does get a bit absurd when some people play a fourth time, although, I didn't mind so much the season Boston Rob won.

They need to focus on new players for awhile so people can actually care enough to want someone to come back for a second time. They haven't done that in a few years, and I don't think there is anyone in this cast who anyone is dying to see again.

 

[bigpern23]

I guess now that I think about it, I would rather have regular seasons with the occasional all-stars mixed in every 10 seasons (five years) or so. I think that was one of the problems Survivor and Big Brother for that matter, had in recent seasons was that too many returning players for too many seasons made the pool to have an occasional player return seem a bit more shallow. It does get a bit absurd when some people play a fourth time, although, I didn't mind so much the season Boston Rob won.

They need to focus on new players for awhile so people can actually care enough to want someone to come back for a second time. They haven't done that in a few years, and I don't think there is anyone in this cast who anyone is dying to see again.

Agreed. And it's interesting that last season Probst said he didn't think we'd see any more players from before All-Stars (I think that was roughly the halfway point in terms of season, right?). He also said, initially, that Survivor would never bring back Colton because he had simply gone too far. Sadly, he soon walked back on that statement and here we are with a season of too many returning players, including the worst human being the show has ever featured.

 

[MTM]

At least we won't have to watch Russell Hantz and his idiot nephew.

I'm sure they were lined up before Brandon's meltdown last season.

 

[bigpern23]

At least we won't have to watch Russell Hantz and his idiot nephew.

I'm sure they were lined up before Brandon's meltdown last season.

I'd watch Brandon's lunacy over Colton every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

[Buck]

I don't want to see Brandon or Colton again.
Or Ben Wade.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

At this point, if they said, "Nobody who has ever played before, will play again." I would be fine with that.

When they did the first all-stars, most of them were people who people wanted to see play again.

If you get behind completely new casts rather than overshadow them by some player coming back who was never that popular in the first place then they'll be better off in the long run.

The season where Rob and Russell were captains was one thing... They needed a ratings boost and they got it that season and people actually wanted to see those two play again.

Is anybody clamoring to see Gervase again? I don't think so.

 

[bigpern23]

At this point, if they said, "Nobody who has ever played before, will play again." I would be fine with that.

When they did the first all-stars, most of them were people who people wanted to see play again.

If you get behind completely new casts rather than overshadow them by some player coming back who was never that popular in the first place then they'll be better off in the long run.

The season where Rob and Russell were captains was one thing... They needed a ratings boost and they got it that season and people actually wanted to see those two play again.

Is anybody clamoring to see Gervase again? I don't think so.

The problem, Mizzou, is that the general public seems to disagree with you. Ratings for seasons with returning players are always higher than for all-new casts.

 

[DanOregon]

I liked the season where they brought back people who had to evacuated out for medical reasons.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I liked the season where they brought back people who had to evacuated out for medical reasons.

Yeah, I kind of thought that was cool too...

 

[Mizzougrad96]

At this point, if they said, "Nobody who has ever played before, will play again." I would be fine with that.

When they did the first all-stars, most of them were people who people wanted to see play again.

If you get behind completely new casts rather than overshadow them by some player coming back who was never that popular in the first place then they'll be better off in the long run.

The season where Rob and Russell were captains was one thing... They needed a ratings boost and they got it that season and people actually wanted to see those two play again.

Is anybody clamoring to see Gervase again? I don't think so.

The problem, Mizzou, is that the general public seems to disagree with you. Ratings for seasons with returning players are always higher than for all-new casts.

You're right. They got huge ratings for the Rob vs. Russell showdown, but the problem is, do they have anyone who people care enough about (or hate enough) to bring back? Apparently Colton qualifies, so maybe that's not a terrible move.

The show typically does pretty well ratingswise and has never really been in danger of being canceled, which is pretty impressive after all these seasons.

 

[Huggy]

I maintain a Survivor made up of those who were voted out first would be great.