Can a Mormon (or whatever we are) Vent?

[DanOregon]

Not even Tuesday yet.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/08/pentagon-latter-day-saints-christianity-00953583

PS - If they have such a hard-on de-listing faiths, number 1 should be whatever it is that Hegseth's version of "christianity" is.

 

[tapintoamerica]

The government has no business determining which religion belongs in which group. There should be no "groups" of belief, because of the vast differences in specifics.

Yet the IRS wades into these waters by granting tax exemption to religious organizations. I doubt the process for obtaining the exemption is particularly arduous.

 

[TigerVols]

My friends, this is the only place online that I feel like I can have a halfway decent exchange, so please indulge...

When you have a driveline coming out of your stomach and have to change the batteries on your portable life support system every 14-16 hours, you tend to be selective with the F--s you DO.give. This one has me, though, so I opine.

The war department recently released its list of recognized religions and by gosh, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints was not listed as a CHRISTIAN denomination. So, of course, hilarity has ensued.

My three or four or six takes.

1) We voted for these numbnuts. We deserve this.
2) The war department left out the hyphen in Latter-Days on the press release. Of course .
3) Sen. Mike Lee has tweeted over 40 times about this. Um, couldn't some of that energy be expended on,.oh I don't know, ENDING THE F-----G WAR?!?
4) The tired argument of whether or not Mormons are Christians regurgitates online and hasn't changed one iota since those days I wore the white shirt and tie knocking on doors in Akron and Cleveland while the community reeled from Schottenheimer mismanaging the Browns and Jordan hitting the jumper over Craig Ehlo in Game 5. It's annoying.

5) If you don't think I'm a Christian, then I won't act Christlike and will retort with an imitation of a chicken singing Celo Green and say "Cluck you" or go South Park Mormon kid and say "s--- my balls." Let me know which one you prefer.

6) I am a child of God, follower of Christ, Father of 2 and stepfather of 5 (Total of 7 -- Mormon quota! )And many other things ending with "Springsteen fan" Full list available upon request. So there

Wow! I feel better. Thank you.

Preach on, @daytonadan1983!
That said -and I certainly don’t have a horse in this race - it’s my understanding in order for a religion to be considered Christian it has to believe Jesus Christ is the only Messiah, and that he rose from the dead, and that the Bible is authoritative. With “Jesus Christ” in its name, sure makes me assume it’s Christian and meets the criteria.

 

[Gym Beam]

Yet the IRS wades into these waters by granting tax exemption to religious organizations. I doubt the process for obtaining the exemption is particularly arduous.

And the only question that likely needs to be answered is, "Do you claim to be a religious organization?"

 

[mpcincal]

I think he probably meant Jesus instead of God.

I would definitely say any religion that believes Jesus was their savior is a "Christian" one.

Except for Catholics, who somehow think they are above "Christian."

(I married a Catholic, so I can make that joke.)

Yes, I did mean Jesus. Brain fart on my part.

And, as what they call a lapsed Catholic, you're spot on with that comment.

 

[wicked]

it was the reason the Pilgrims left England - a right to practice their faith as they saw fit.

The Puritans were major league assholes. My wife, a history teacher by trade, and I were discussing this a few days ago. They’re a lot like the current White House chuckle****s — they’re all for freedom of religion as long as it’s their religion.

 

[TrooperBari]

The Puritans were major league assholes. My wife, a history teacher by trade, and I were discussing this a few days ago. They’re a lot like the current White House chuckle****s — they’re all for freedom of religion as long as it’s their religion.

If memory serves, part of the reason the Puritans left -- for the Netherlands, initially -- was that they thought Oliver Cromwell was too tolerant of other religions.

 

[Driftwood]

Where does someone who falls between a Deist and a Druid fall into this? Asking for a friend.

 

[tapintoamerica]

Self-identified Christians of all races and denominations went for Trump 61%-38% and represented 62% of the electorate in 2024. The other 38% of the electorate went for Harris 65%-32%.

Methodology

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

 

[daytonadan1983]

So....a day later...

You gotta give Mike Lee some props for all the social media clicks and column inches generated because of a needed tweaking of a few words of a poorly executed bureaucracy form and acting as if he was Bruce Willis in Armageddon. What happens when he achieves something of actual importance -- he gonna get translated?

And am I the only who noticed not a peep came out of Salt Lake City-- LDS Church Headquarters -- about this global crisis? Hmmm.

Oh, well, at least we had a good discussion here. I also went South Park Mormon on a couple of Christian Nationalists. And I didn't have to use my AK. I guess it was a good day....

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Somewhat random observation...

I live in an area with a very large LDS population, so I know a hell of a lot of Mormons. They are, with very few exceptions, some of the nicest, kindest, most thoughtful people I have been around.

We also have a lot of Mormon politicians here, who are elected in large part because of their support from church members. And by and large, those politicians are some of the most ****ty, vile people you will ever run across. Just absolutely loathsome.

I know the church has issued some kind of guidance that members should perhaps start thinking a little more about their beliefs when they vote. Don't know if that's going to mean anything.

 

[Shropshire Slasher]

I too know a lot of LDS members. I will say (putting it mildly) that the church has a lot of "unusual doctrines," but they are good family people. Generally just good people, full stop.

The funny thing is, we have two LDS missionaries who come into my store 10 minutes before close just about every night, walk a lap, and then walk out. (They are female and their name tags say "Sister." The males' name tags say "Elder.") I'm guessing they're just checking off a stop on their beat.