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1. Are you a U.S. Citizen? (If no, then don’t fill out survey.)
YES 307
NO 0

2. Do you consider yourself to be a Muslim first, an American first, or both equally?
MUSLIM FIRST 214
AMERICAN FIRST 4
BOTH EQUALLY 86
UNDECIDED 3

3. Is the American government at war with the religion of Islam?
YES 208
NO 79
UNDECIDED 20

4. Can a good Muslim be a good American?
YES 292
NO 11
UNDECIDED 4

5. Did Muslims hijack planes and fly them into buildings on 9/11?
YES 117
NO 139
UNDECIDED 51

6. Did the U.S. government have advance knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and allow the attacks to occur?
YES 200
NO 70
UNDECIDED 37

7. Did the U.S. government organize the 9/11 attacks?
YES 106
NO 151
UNDECIDED 50


8. Are the tapes of Osama Bin Laden, claiming responsibility for the 9/11 attacks and threatening future attacks, real or fake?
REAL 126
FAKE 129
UNDECIDED 52

9. Did Muslims commit the July 2005 train and bus bombings in London?
YES 140
NO 104
UNDECIDED 63

10. The Canadian government says it stopped a plot by Canadian Muslims in June 2006 to attack targets in Canada. Do you believe there was a real plot by Muslims?
YES 61
NO 202
UNDECIDED 44

11. The British government says it stopped a plot by British Muslims in August 2006 to bomb planes flying to America. Do you believe there was a real plot by Muslims?
YES 66
NO 191
UNDECIDED 50

12. Is Al Qaeda a real organization, operated by Muslims who are trying to attack America?
YES 149
NO 109
UNDECIDED 49

13. Is Al Qaeda attacking America because Al Qaeda hates American freedoms?
YES 17
NO 269
UNDECIDED 21

14. Is Al Qaeda attacking America because Al Qaeda hates American involvement in the Muslim world?
YES 228
NO 54
UNDECIDED 25

15. Is it justifiable for the U.S. government to do any of the following in an attempt to prevent terrorist attacks in America:

a. taking religion and ethnicity into account as one factor when deciding whom to interview and search at airports?
YES 37
NO 258
UNDECIDED 12

b. monitoring activities at American mosques?
YES 43
NO 255
UNDECIDED 9

c. listening to phone calls of people in America whom the government claims are connected in some way with Al Qaeda?
YES 64
NO 232
UNDECIDED 11

d. having an informer pretend to support or encourage violence against America, to see if the targeted Muslims will decide to attack American targets?
YES 35
NO 258
UNDECIDED 14

e. monitoring Muslim charities in America, in the hopes of preventing funding for possible terrorist attacks?
YES 52
NO 242
UNDECIDED 13

f. focusing Immigration & Customs Enforcement resources on deporting Muslim illegal aliens, who have not been convicted of terrorism, in the hopes of disrupting possible Al Qaeda attacks?
YES 29
NO 263
UNDECIDED 15

g. allowing Muslim illegal aliens to stay in America if they agree to work as informants, monitoring the Muslim community for the government?
YES 21
NO 277
UNDECIDED 9

h. torturing suspected Al Qaeda members to get information about possible planned attacks?
YES 14
NO 278
UNDECIDED 15

16. Do you believe that your local mosque is being monitored by wiretaps, government agents, or informants?
YES 227
NO 59
UNDECIDED 21

17. Do you believe that your personal phone calls are being listened to, or that your personal mail or email is being read, by the U.S. government?
YES 205
NO 78
UNDECIDED 24

18. Do you believe that your home is bugged by the U.S. government?
YES 97
NO 189
UNDECIDED 21

19. Do you believe that the U.S. government has secretly searched your home?
YES 43
NO 245
UNDECIDED 19

20. If you, or a member of your family, have been questioned by the federal government at any time after 9/11, how were you treated during the interview?
TREATED WELL 65
TREATED BADLY 25
NOT APPLICABLE 217

21. Should Iran develop nuclear weapons?
YES 161
NO 123
UNDECIDED 23

22. Should America attack Iran to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons?
YES 10
NO 292
UNDECIDED 5

23. Was America justified in invading Iraq in 2003?
YES 8
NO 294
UNDECIDED 5

24. Should American troops leave Iraq immediately, or stay there until the Iraqi government and Iraqi military are stronger?
LEAVE NOW 199
LEAVE LATER 86
UNDECIDED 22

25. Was America justified in invading Afghanistan after 9/11?
YES 51
NO 248
UNDECIDED 8


26. Is violence by Muslims against American civilians acceptable, in retaliation for the American government’s actions in the Muslim world?
YES 23
NO 274
UNDECIDED 10

27. Is violence by Muslims against the American military overseas acceptable, in retaliation for the American government’s actions in the Muslim world?
YES 134
NO 154
UNDECIDED 19

28. Is violence by Muslims against the American military in the U.S. acceptable, in retaliation for the American government’s actions in the Muslim world?
YES 73
NO 211
UNDECIDED 23

29. Is violence by Muslims against American government officials acceptable, in retaliation for the American government’s actions in the Muslim world?
YES 51
NO 231
UNDECIDED 25

30. If you learned about a plot by Muslims to attack targets inside America, would you tell law enforcement authorities?
YES 234
NO 39
UNDECIDED 34
 
Congrats Poin, that gun is smoking. You get your Muslim-hating star of the day.
 
my problem with this survey, and the speech of some righties, is that by using just muslims to classify terrorists, it generalizes the person involved and makes it seem like a war on the religion itself.

that is why it is important to say radical extremists. you have to differentiate when talking about a subject like this.

otherwise, it's just like saying to stop gang violence in LA (or another big city), you're going to arrest and interroagte all black people. it's absurd.

there is a way to go about a problem such as this, and by generalizing an entire religion and deeming them evil doesn't help anyone.
 
51 percent of all Americans also believe some absurd stuff:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/22/opinion/polls/main965223.shtml
 
Oh, Poin will pull out what will be around here forever known around here as "The Hondo Defense". (He was smart enought to remove his dumbass Cindy Sheehan thread)

It doesn't matter how stupid, ignorant, bogus or asinine any link you post is, just say, "It's just there for discussion. I'm not taking sides. I claim no responsibility for the links I throw up. Just because I post items that reference irrational anti-Muslim, anti Cindy Sheehan points of view, it doesn't mean I'm anti-Muslim. I'm chicken**** neutral"
 
You guys leave Dexter alone. He is doing us a favor.

It's far simpler, easier and less stressful to hate, fear and villify an entire religion than to have to sift through and hate just the crazies.
 
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1. Are you guys saying Poindexter made that entire survey up?
2. How is posting the survey indicative of a hatred of Muslims?
3. I notice that 35 percent of the respondents said there is no such thing as Al-Qaida (Question 12), but 75 percent of the respondents say Al Qaida is attacking the U.S. because of U.S. involvement in the Muslim world (No. 14). Which is it folks. Is there an Al Qaida or not.
4. I would be interested in this follow-up question to the majority of respondents of Question 5 who said Muslims did not fly planes into the buildings on 9-11: "Who did, and why did they have all those Saudi passports?"
 
Apparently it's not politically correct to look at the common denominator involved in the terror attacks and hate of the entire country.
 
Perhaps hondo's questions can be answered by actually clicking on the link and reading the disclaimer stating that this is not a scientific survey, but in fact a form passed out at the annual convention of this organization and submitted voluntarily. That might explain the inconsistencies, which as hondo points out shows that the questions were not answered honestly in many cases.

The good thing is that this proves that Muslims are liars and we can't trust anything they say.
 
JR said:
Oh, Poin will pull out what will be around here forever known around here as "The Hondo Defense". (He was smart enought to remove his dumbass Cindy Sheehan thread)

It doesn't matter how stupid, ignorant, bogus or asinine any link you post is, just say, "It's just there for discussion. I'm not taking sides. I claim no responsibility for the links I throw up. Just because I post items that reference irrational anti-Muslim, anti Cindy Sheehan points of view, it doesn't mean I'm anti-Muslim. I'm chicken**** neutral"

He didn't pull this survey off what you would call a right-wing web site. It came from the Islamic Society of North America national convention.
 
hondo said:
1. Are you guys saying Poindexter made that entire survey up?
2. How is posting the survey indicative of a hatred of Muslims?
3. I notice that 35 percent of the respondents said there is no such thing as Al-Qaida (Question 12), but 75 percent of the respondents say Al Qaida is attacking the U.S. because of U.S. involvement in the Muslim world (No. 14). Which is it folks. Is there an Al Qaida or not.
4. I would be interested in this follow-up question to the majority of respondents of Question 5 who said Muslims did not fly planes into the buildings on 9-11: "Who did, and why did they have all those Saudi passports?"

I took the SAT years ago, thank you.

Passive-aggressive much?
 
hondo said:
JR said:
Oh, Poin will pull out what will be around here forever known around here as "The Hondo Defense". (He was smart enought to remove his dumbass Cindy Sheehan thread)

It doesn't matter how stupid, ignorant, bogus or asinine any link you post is, just say, "It's just there for discussion. I'm not taking sides. I claim no responsibility for the links I throw up. Just because I post items that reference irrational anti-Muslim, anti Cindy Sheehan points of view, it doesn't mean I'm anti-Muslim. I'm chicken**** neutral"

He didn't pull this survey off what you would call a right-wing web site. It came from the Islamic Society of North America national convention.
Did I say it was a right wing website? Pretty defensive.

But it's a bogus survey (as indicated on thhe website; however Poin conveniently left that off his post). And he bolded the part that he REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted us to notice.

And as far as I'm concerned, "Muslims for a Safe America" doesn't pass the smell test.

To wit (from their site)

Muslims For A Safe America conducted a survey at the Islamic Society of North America’s 43rd Annual Convention in Chicago from September 1, 2006 to September 4, 2006.

Let's see. That means the group has been around since 1963. How many Muslims were in the U.S. in 1963 and why did they all think America was unsafe?

I'm saying it's a fraud and the survey is bull****.
 
JR said:
hondo said:
JR said:
Oh, Poin will pull out what will be around here forever known around here as "The Hondo Defense". (He was smart enought to remove his dumbass Cindy Sheehan thread)

It doesn't matter how stupid, ignorant, bogus or asinine any link you post is, just say, "It's just there for discussion. I'm not taking sides. I claim no responsibility for the links I throw up. Just because I post items that reference irrational anti-Muslim, anti Cindy Sheehan points of view, it doesn't mean I'm anti-Muslim. I'm chicken**** neutral"

He didn't pull this survey off what you would call a right-wing web site. It came from the Islamic Society of North America national convention.
Did I say it was a right wing website? Pretty defensive.

But it's a bogus survey (as indicated on thhe website; however Poin conveniently left that off his post). And he bolded the part that he REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted us to notice.

And as far as I'm concerned, "Muslims for a Safe America" doesn't pass the smell test.

To wit (from their site)

Muslims For A Safe America conducted a survey at the Islamic Society of North America?s 43rd Annual Convention in Chicago from September 1, 2006 to September 4, 2006.

Let's see. That means the group has been around since 1963. How many Muslims were in the U.S. in 1963 and why did they all think America was unsafe?

I'm saying it's a fraud and the survey is bull****.
So who was answering the questions: Presbyterians posing as Muslims?
 
Hondo, it could be Bubba and his mouth-breathing friends in Bum**** Arkansas who made up the survey and answered it.

My bull**** meter is redlining on the website, the survey and the organization.
 
Hey poin, I'm baffled that you couldn't find this article in that search engine of yours.
http://newsblaze.com/story/20060919065156alih.nb/topstory.html
 
or this one:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/18/AR2006091800597.html
 
Chuck, I'm totally with you when you say the survey is a joke. But the two articles don't have any bearing on the survey's legitimacy. Has there been an increase in anti-Muslim violence? I'm sure. I'm sure there was an increase in violence or harassment of Germans or Japanese in America following the start of World War II. But let's keep our attention, at least in this thread, on the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the survey.
 
AlleyAllen said:
Chuck, I'm totally with you when you say the survey is a joke. But the two articles don't have any bearing on the survey's legitimacy. Has there been an increase in anti-Muslim violence? I'm sure. I'm sure there was an increase in violence or harassment of Germans or Japanese in America following the start of World War II. But let's keep our attention, at least in this thread, on the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the survey.
Yeah, I understand, but I wasn't referring to the survey. I was just referring to the cowardly actions of poin.
 

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