Selection Sunday thread

[ondeadline]

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If the consensus on that Web site is correct in its prediction, Duke will have a higher seed (No. 6) in the NCAA tournament than it has in the ACC tournament (No. 7).

How many times has a team earned a higher seed in the NCAA tournament than in its conference tournament? I believe N.C. State probably did since it was a No. 6 seed in the 1983 tournament although I don't remember its ACC tournament seed.

 

[Mystery_Meat]

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I have a feeling Duke will make a run in the ACC tourney and get a top-4 seed.

I also have a feeling that the state of Virginia will have four teams in the NCAAs, but after the first day, all we'll have to cheer for are Virginia Union and Virginia Wesleyan.

 

[SportsHack1818]

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Not a Duke fan in any way, shape or form. That said ...

On Deadline, Duke getting a top six seed means the committee considers the Blue Devils one of the top 24 teams in the nation, not one of the top six.

So it's not that big a stretch that the seventh place team in the ACC could be considered among the top 24 in the country.

 

[ondeadline]

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On Deadline, Duke getting a top seed means the committee considers the Blue Devils one of the top 24 teams in the nation, not one of the top six.

I realize that, but it still is rare. Think about it. How many leagues could the No. 7 seed in the conference tournament even earn an NCAA berth.

 

[SportsHack1818]

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That's true. Out here in Big 12 country, there's debate about whether even four will get in — and should it happen, the fourth most certainly won't rate a 6 seed.

 

[Oz]

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I have a feeling Duke will make a run in the ACC tourney and get a top-4 seed.

No way. I agree that they have to at least make the semis to get top-four consideration. I just don't see them making that run, which means they draw anywhere from a No. 5 to a No. 7.

 

[jagtrader]

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If Nevada gets a 4 with no quality wins, it's a bigger sham than last year when it got a 5. The fact that it's ranked No. 10 in the nation is a complete joke.

The pendulum has swung too far in favor of the little guys.

 

[BYH]

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If Nevada gets a 4 with no quality wins, it's a bigger sham than last year when it got a 5. The fact that it's ranked No. 10 in the nation is a complete joke.

The pendulum has swung too far in favor of the little guys.

Uh huh.

 

[jagtrader]

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If the consensus on that Web site is correct in its prediction, Duke will have a higher seed (No. 6) in the NCAA tournament than it has in the ACC tournament (No. 7).

How many times has a team earned a higher seed in the NCAA tournament than in its conference tournament? I believe N.C. State probably did since it was a No. 6 seed in the 1983 tournament although I don't remember its ACC tournament seed.

I know Syracuse did it last year. The Orange went from the 9 seed in the Big East to a 5 seed in the NCAAs, mostly because the committee has the attention span of a 3-year-old. Win your conference tournament and the regular season doesn't matter.

 

[Oz]

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If Nevada gets a 4 with no quality wins, it's a bigger sham than last year when it got a 5. The fact that it's ranked No. 10 in the nation is a complete joke.

The pendulum has swung too far in favor of the little guys.

I would much rather see that (even if I disagree with it) than the No. 5 team in the nation draw a No. 6 seed, as was the case with Gonzaga not too long ago.

 

[jagtrader]

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If Nevada wants a 4 seed, it should go beat someone. An 0-1 record against the RPI top 50 doesn't cut it. Duke, the team everyone loathes, has played 17 games against the RPI top 50. If Nevada played that schedule, it would be headed to the NIT.

 

[Armchair_QB]

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So if Duke ****s the bed and loses its ACC tourney opener is it still a six seed?

 

[BYH]

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If Nevada wants a 4 seed, it should go beat someone. An 0-1 record against the RPI top 50 doesn't cut it. Duke, the team everyone loathes, has played 17 games against the RPI top 50. If Nevada played that schedule, it would be headed to the NIT.

I'm sure Nevada has been ignoring the big-time teams eager for 40 minutes of run.

The beauty of SOS is the mid-majors can never win the argument.

 

[AnotherThingComing]

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To be placed at an 11 seed in nearly every bracket (some higher, some lower) and saying they're not a near-lock is semi-ridiculous to me. If they weren't a near-lock, wouldn't they either be a lower seed, or be left out of more than one of those brackets? Mr. Bracket was the only place they were left off last night when I checked.

Every year, the last teams to get at-large bids are 11th or 12th seeds, because the lower seeds are teams from one-bid conferences that get automatic bids. So to be projected a No. 11 or 12 seed is very much on the bubble.

The problem I have with Missouri State is that after the Wisconsin win, they did nothing to enhance their profile. They had Creighton beat in Omaha and folded, lost twice more to them and twice to Southern Illinois. The Winthrop game and Creighton game in the Valley tournament were embarrassments.

Their "official" record is 21-10, because one of their wins was over a D-2 school. Why a team needing to beef up its nonconference schedule for NCAA Tournament time schedules a D-2 team is another matter entirely.

And from what I hear, Hinson is very much on the hot seat, and probably will not be back either way. Whether it's his decision or the school's depends on whether they get an NCAA bid.

 

[jagtrader]

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If Nevada wants a 4 seed, it should go beat someone. An 0-1 record against the RPI top 50 doesn't cut it. Duke, the team everyone loathes, has played 17 games against the RPI top 50. If Nevada played that schedule, it would be headed to the NIT.

I'm sure Nevada has been ignoring the big-time teams eager for 40 minutes of run.

The beauty of SOS is the mid-majors can never win the argument.

The beauty of being a mid-major is you get to be ranked No. 10 in the country without beating anyone.

 

[BYH]

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If Nevada wants a 4 seed, it should go beat someone. An 0-1 record against the RPI top 50 doesn't cut it. Duke, the team everyone loathes, has played 17 games against the RPI top 50. If Nevada played that schedule, it would be headed to the NIT.

I'm sure Nevada has been ignoring the big-time teams eager for 40 minutes of run.

The beauty of SOS is the mid-majors can never win the argument.

The beauty of being a mid-major is you get to be ranked No. 10 in the country without beating anyone.

Uh huh. Mid-majors get to cruise right into the field. OK then.

Tell it to Drexel when the Dragons are left out this weekend despite 13 road wins, including two Big East wins and a win over Creighton, or Old Dominion when it's left out despite beating top 10 Georgetown. Guaranteed one--if not both--those teams is out.

Selection committee: Play better teams!

Major conference teams: We're not playing the mid-majors! We might lose!

It really is beautiful.

 

[jagtrader]

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Old Dominion is 4-3 against the RPI top 50 and finished second in its league. It deserves a spot and it will probably get one. Drexel will probably get squeezed out like Hofstra did last year. Of course, Drexel finished fourth in the Colonial and lost in the conference semis. Not a great case.

Again, that just shows you how pitiful Nevada's schedule has been. One game against the RPI top 50? Get in the back of the line. You'll have to beat good teams in March since you haven't all season.

 

[Central-KY-Kid]

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Granted no major conference team is probably going to play Nevada on the road (Gonzaga would work here, too), but did Nevada have any offers to hit the road to play one of the big boys?

If that is the case, you can't say Nevada is completely innocent.

 

[Flying Headbutt]

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I'm starting to have this hunch that Drexel gets in. They at least should. Heck, I'd rather see them than Florida State, unless the Noles knock off UNC Friday.

 

[BYH]

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I'm starting to have this hunch that Drexel gets in. They at least should. Heck, I'd rather see them than Florida State, unless the Noles knock off UNC Friday.

There is no way Drexel gets in as the 4th-place team in the CAA. NONE.