Selection Sunday thread

[Hammer Pants]

Re: Countdown to Selection Sunday thread

If you're below .500 in your league you should not, ever, under any circumstance get an at-large bid.

It's happened before to ACC and SEC teams.

 

[Cosmo]

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Missou St RPI is 38, Bradley is 43.... both have a shot, but I doubt it

The Bears are 22-10, 12-6 and beat Wisconsin. I think they're in.

Bears had a better profile and better conference record last year. They don't deserve to be in, not after tanking against Winthrop at home in a national TV game.

You mean the same Winthrop which won its conference tournament yesterday? The fact that they got jobbed the last TWO years and played a better non-conference schedule this year means they should get in.

And Oz.... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Winning the Big South tournament is not a special achievement. Trust me on this one. Only one team in that league other than Winthrop was above 270 in the RPI going in. And the last two years will have no consequence on this year's Missouri State team. None whatsoever. The committee will look at this year's team, and that's it.

And that Santa Clara win? Who cares? Santa Clara is No. 93 in the RPI. That won't even register. The only top 50 wins are against Wisconsin and the two against Bradley. Put that profile up against someone like Clemson or Florida State or even Illinois, and it's going to get torn apart. Missouri State has a chance, yes, but to even nudge them anywhere near lock category is a mistake.

 

[Bubbler]

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When I was there a couple years ago, he was probably the most popular man in Springfield. I don't know if that changed last year, but from what I understand, the consensus is not that he coached a bad team, but that they have been jobbed by the committee the last two years.

And for the record, I think this year's team was pretty damn good. It's the MVC. There are going to be losses that make someone say "what the ****" and there are going to be teams that are good who have bad losses. It's how the MVC works every year. The only two teams Mo State didn't beat at least once this year (IIRC) are the two teams who were seeded hire than them in the conference tourney.

The problem is that Missouri State had so much back from last season that the expectation was that they should at least split with Creighton and SIU. And it was home losses to teams like UNI (a not bad, not great team that MSU should beat at home) that frustrated MSU fans. Rumor has it the money people in Springfield aren't enamored of Hinson, despite his folksy media-popular ways.

Not saying he's getting clipped, but then again, it wouldn't surprise me if he did.

 

[Mystery_Meat]

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Suggested first-round matchup for NIT bracketbuilders: Hofstra at Wichita State in the Mid-Major WTF Classic.

 

[spup1122]

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To be placed at an 11 seed in nearly every bracket (some higher, some lower) and saying they're not a near-lock is semi-ridiculous to me. If they weren't a near-lock, wouldn't they either be a lower seed, or be left out of more than one of those brackets? Mr. Bracket was the only place they were left off last night when I checked.

 

[Mystery_Meat]

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To be placed at an 11 seed in nearly every bracket (some higher, some lower) and saying they're not a near-lock is semi-ridiculous to me. If they weren't a near-lock, wouldn't they either be a lower seed, or be left out of more than one of those brackets? Mr. Bracket was the only place they were left off last night when I checked.

If you're a projected double-digit seed, you're not a lock.

 

[spup1122]

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Also, for once, it seems the men are selling out Hammons while the women are struggling. I don't think they'd be selling out if the community was TOO upset with Hinson. The school loves him, too, as he seems to do a lot for the other athletic programs. When Missouri State was hosting the MVC Baseball tournament in 2004, Hinson almost burned down his home making bbq for the teams, press, employees, and school officials. It's my understanding that he does that for the team games, too, once the basketball season is over.

 

[Big Buckin' agate_monkey]

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Missou St RPI is 38, Bradley is 43.... both have a shot, but I doubt it

The Bears are 22-10, 12-6 and beat Wisconsin. I think they're in.

And when you consider Bradley's "signature" win is against Southern Illinois, the same team it lost to twice this season, it lends more weight to SMS getting the nod.

I'm hopeful for the Braves, but most on campus have accepted and embraced an NIT bid.

 

[D-3 Fan]

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And Southern Illinois is no longer a No. 3 seed.

Lowery feels that his team is a 6 at best. Creighton will be between a 7 and a 10 due to their 22-10 record.

 

[Bob Cook]

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There is a very real chance the Horizon is a two-team league. Wright State is hosting the title game, and beat Butler the last time the two teams met. Also, Butler has honked its two previous Horizon finals.

 

[D-3 Fan]

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Also, for once, it seems the men are selling out Hammons while the women are struggling. I don't think they'd be selling out if the community was TOO upset with Hinson. The school loves him, too, as he seems to do a lot for the other athletic programs. When Missouri State was hosting the MVC Baseball tournament in 2004, Hinson almost burned down his home making bbq for the teams, press, employees, and school officials. It's my understanding that he does that for the team games, too, once the basketball season is over.

That is surprising to read that about Hinson. For a long time before she went to Michigan, Cheryl Burnett, Jackie Stiles, and the women were the big show in the Hammons Center along with Spoonhour and Spoonball. Since Abrahamson-Henderson came in, they have been somewhat inconsistent but still competitive. Hinson was on the hot seat at one point in his tenure after Alford bolted up here to Iowa City, but he has done a great job.

 

[KYSportsWriter]

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No way should Duke get a No. 4 seed. But that may just be the UNC fan in me coming out.

 

[Lester Bangs]

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Here is the spnited conference breakdown:

Big East 7; ACC 6; Big 10 5; Pac-10 5; Big 12 5; SEC 4; MVC 3; Mt. West 2; WAC 3; A-10 2; CAA 2.

One bid conferences (20):
C-USA, Horizon, WCC, MidAmerican, Big West, Patriot, Ivy, Southern, America East, Sun Belt, Mid-Continent, Metro Atlantic, OVC, Big Sky, Atlantic Sun, Southland, NEC, Big South, MEAC, SWAC.

EDIT: To fix WAC to only 2 bids... leaving the 65th spot open for 8th Big East or 6th Big 10 or 4th MVC or something as bizarre as someone other than Memphis winning C-USA

Stanford could still make it six for the Pac-10.

Gonzaga should not make it if they lose tonight. But they will probably win because that's what they do in the WCC Tourney.

 

[Mystery_Meat]

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Gonzaga's going to be a really, really interesting case for the committee should it lose tonight. On the one hand, their RPI is low for an at-large contender and their center is out. On the other hand, wins over UNC and Texas on neutral sites and an insane non-conference schedule could carry some weight, even conceding they're not the same team they were in December.

 

[Lester Bangs]

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Gonzaga's going to be a really, really interesting case for the committee should it lose tonight. On the one hand, their RPI is low for an at-large contender and their center is out. On the other hand, wins over UNC and Texas on neutral sites and an insane non-conference schedule could carry some weight, even conceding they're not the same team they were in December.

I would say out for sure, but there are the Texas and UNC wins and they also won at Stanford. There are an awful lot of bubble teams who will be rooting for the Zags tonight.

 

[BYH]

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Hey! The intentional foul is finally called on George Mason 365 days too late!!! Nice work Darryl Monroe! Where'd you learn that?

**** YOU MASON NATION!!! **** YOU!!!!!

 

[spnited]

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Eric Maynor just made BYH's night!

 

[BYH]

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He sure ****ing did!!! First time I've felt good in two days.

 

[Mystery_Meat]

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Well hot damn and **** the Patriots.

If ODU sneaks in, Virginia could have four teams in the NCAAs, which is probably a high for the state. Could be five if Richmond wins the Atlahahahahaha sorry no.

 

[BYH]

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I'm sure the rest of the CAA is sad about Richmond's plight.