RIP Natasha Richardson

[slappy4428]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

Damn...
Doesn't sound like a bad accident, but hit something the wrong way and it triggers something else...

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

She and Dennis Quaid, who is almost never bad.

And, hard to remember, a brilliant and innocent Lindsay Lohan.

 

[JR]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

Left Montreal in a private jet

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/603508

A Toronto Star reporter was the only media representative to watch as Richardson, lying heavily-wrapped in blankets in an intensive-care bed, tubes covering her face, was loaded into a yellow ambulance at the hospital.

Neeson was already crouched down inside the back of the ambulance watching as she was loaded. He looked extremely worried.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

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I grew up skiing. I worked as a junior ski patrol in high school and would spend almost all of my Christmas and spring breaks on the slopes.

I don't want my kids anywhere near the slopes. Never mind the cost, but it is just insane the number of people who have died or been very badly injured in recent years.

A close friend of mine, lost his brother in a skiing accident about 10 years ago. This was a guy who could ski as well as anyone.

 

[finishthehat]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

Left Montreal in a private jet

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/603508

A Toronto Star reporter was the only media representative to watch as Richardson, lying heavily-wrapped in blankets in an intensive-care bed, tubes covering her face, was loaded into a yellow ambulance at the hospital.

Neeson was already crouched down inside the back of the ambulance watching as she was loaded. He looked extremely worried.

She's suffering from brain swelling and they put her in a plane? Wouldn't the change in air pressure be a bad thing? (I'm no doctor, to be sure.)

 

[I Digress]

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Sounds like a closed head injury. I think the key there is reducing the pressure on the brain.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

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On that movie set, they were in a little village in Wicklow, and there were all these little kids running around, and Neeson and Richardson spent a lot of time playing with them and, finally, Neeson said to the director, you know, if there were these big doings here, there'd be kids coming out to see. And the kids got to be in the movie.
Like I said, good people, the two of them.

 

[Small Town Guy]

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Was just talking a few days about the couple as Liam is a good friend to a nun in Cape Town who's a friend of my wife's family. That was bad news as well because the lady is terminally ill. My wife's also seen them around NYC farily often and says they always appear to be madly in love with each other.

 

[DocTalk]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

Left Montreal in a private jet

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/603508

A Toronto Star reporter was the only media representative to watch as Richardson, lying heavily-wrapped in blankets in an intensive-care bed, tubes covering her face, was loaded into a yellow ambulance at the hospital.

Neeson was already crouched down inside the back of the ambulance watching as she was loaded. He looked extremely worried.

She's suffering from brain swelling and they put her in a plane? Wouldn't the change in air pressure be a bad thing? (I'm no doctor, to be sure.)

If there is brain swelling (cerebral edema), the goal is to decrease it aggressively with medications. Since the skull is a closed box, there is no place for the swelling to go and brain tissue can be damaged. Often pressure within the skull is measured with a pressure monitor (commonly called a bolt) that is placed by a neurosurgeon and medications are titrated to get the appropriate effect. Flying in a pressurized airplane would not be a problem and trauma victims are often flown by helicopter or fixed wing to a hospital where a neurosurgeon that does trauma is available.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

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If you can't fall in love while playing opposite each other in Anna Christie, there's no romance left in the world.

 

[finishthehat]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

Left Montreal in a private jet

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/603508

A Toronto Star reporter was the only media representative to watch as Richardson, lying heavily-wrapped in blankets in an intensive-care bed, tubes covering her face, was loaded into a yellow ambulance at the hospital.

Neeson was already crouched down inside the back of the ambulance watching as she was loaded. He looked extremely worried.

She's suffering from brain swelling and they put her in a plane? Wouldn't the change in air pressure be a bad thing? (I'm no doctor, to be sure.)

If there is brain swelling (cerebral edema), the goal is to decrease it aggressively with medications. Since the skull is a closed box, there is no place for the swelling to go and brain tissue can be damaged. Often pressure within the skull is measured with a pressure monitor (commonly called a bolt) that is placed by a neurosurgeon and medications are titrated to get the appropriate effect. Flying in a pressurized airplane would not be a problem and trauma victims are often flown by helicopter or fixed wing to a hospital where a neurosurgeon that does trauma is available.

Ah, thanks. I just thought with that thing where you have to yawn to get your ears popped as you climb, that it'd be something to avoid.

 

[93Devil]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

Left Montreal in a private jet

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/603508

A Toronto Star reporter was the only media representative to watch as Richardson, lying heavily-wrapped in blankets in an intensive-care bed, tubes covering her face, was loaded into a yellow ambulance at the hospital.

Neeson was already crouched down inside the back of the ambulance watching as she was loaded. He looked extremely worried.

She's suffering from brain swelling and they put her in a plane? Wouldn't the change in air pressure be a bad thing? (I'm no doctor, to be sure.)

If there is brain swelling (cerebral edema), the goal is to decrease it aggressively with medications. Since the skull is a closed box, there is no place for the swelling to go and brain tissue can be damaged. Often pressure within the skull is measured with a pressure monitor (commonly called a bolt) that is placed by a neurosurgeon and medications are titrated to get the appropriate effect. Flying in a pressurized airplane would not be a problem and trauma victims are often flown by helicopter or fixed wing to a hospital where a neurosurgeon that does trauma is available.

Ah, thanks. I just thought with that thing where you have to yawn to get your ears popped as you climb, that it'd be something to avoid.

Actually, I think your ears pop because of air pressure in your lungs and the lower portions of your body, not your head.

 

[Small Town Guy]

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Several outlets are reporting she's brain dead.

 

[txsportsscribe]

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wow, just saw a local cbs report that she has been taken off life support. how sad.

 

[DocTalk]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

Left Montreal in a private jet

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/603508

A Toronto Star reporter was the only media representative to watch as Richardson, lying heavily-wrapped in blankets in an intensive-care bed, tubes covering her face, was loaded into a yellow ambulance at the hospital.

Neeson was already crouched down inside the back of the ambulance watching as she was loaded. He looked extremely worried.

She's suffering from brain swelling and they put her in a plane? Wouldn't the change in air pressure be a bad thing? (I'm no doctor, to be sure.)

If there is brain swelling (cerebral edema), the goal is to decrease it aggressively with medications. Since the skull is a closed box, there is no place for the swelling to go and brain tissue can be damaged. Often pressure within the skull is measured with a pressure monitor (commonly called a bolt) that is placed by a neurosurgeon and medications are titrated to get the appropriate effect. Flying in a pressurized airplane would not be a problem and trauma victims are often flown by helicopter or fixed wing to a hospital where a neurosurgeon that does trauma is available.

Ah, thanks. I just thought with that thing where you have to yawn to get your ears popped as you climb, that it'd be something to avoid.

Actually, I think your ears pop because of air pressure in your lungs and the lower portions of your body, not your head.

The things that pop are the eustachian tubes that connect the middle ear to the nose and back of the throat.

 

[Lugnuts]

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Doc, how does this happen?

What was going on inside her brain?

How can a guy beat the crap out of another guy in boxing and be fine (sort of), but this woman can die from a seemingly minor fall?

 

[AMacIsaac]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

Left Montreal in a private jet

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/603508

A Toronto Star reporter was the only media representative to watch as Richardson, lying heavily-wrapped in blankets in an intensive-care bed, tubes covering her face, was loaded into a yellow ambulance at the hospital.

Neeson was already crouched down inside the back of the ambulance watching as she was loaded. He looked extremely worried.

She's suffering from brain swelling and they put her in a plane? Wouldn't the change in air pressure be a bad thing? (I'm no doctor, to be sure.)

If there is brain swelling (cerebral edema), the goal is to decrease it aggressively with medications. Since the skull is a closed box, there is no place for the swelling to go and brain tissue can be damaged. Often pressure within the skull is measured with a pressure monitor (commonly called a bolt) that is placed by a neurosurgeon and medications are titrated to get the appropriate effect. Flying in a pressurized airplane would not be a problem and trauma victims are often flown by helicopter or fixed wing to a hospital where a neurosurgeon that does trauma is available.

That's not what Mother Lindros said.

 

[DocTalk]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

Doc, how does this happen?

What was going on inside her brain?

How can a guy beat the crap out of another guy in boxing and be fine (sort of), but this woman can die from a seemingly minor fall?

It's all speculation right now because we don't know the type of brain injury that is present. There are a couple of options:
Epidural hematoma, where blood accumulates between the brain and the skull because some veins that bridge from the bone to the tissue covering the brain (the dura) get torn and bleed. usually this requires emergency surgery

Intracerebral bleed with edema or bleeding in the brain tissue itself causing the brain to swell and squash itself against the bone of the skull

Axonal sheer injury, where there is no visible injury but the brain tissue is torqued inside the brian and swelling happens without bleeding.

The latter two may not require an operation because there is nothing to fix; the treatment is trying to control swelling and pressure within the skull.

As to why somebody gets hurt in a fall and another person doesn't...theology and existentialism are not my fortes.

 

[sportschick]

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http://www.wowowow.com/entertainment/liz-smith-natasha-richardson-life-support-lenox-hill-hospital-243237

Link to her being taken off life support today. So sad.

 

[Lugnuts]

Re: Natasha Richardson in serious accident

It's all speculation right now because we don't know the type of brain injury that is present. There are a couple of options:
Epidural hematoma, where blood accumulates between the brain and the skull because some veins that bridge from the bone to the tissue covering the brain (the dura) get torn and bleed. usually this requires emergency surgery

Intracerebral bleed with edema or bleeding in the brain tissue itself causing the brain to swell and squash itself against the bone of the skull

Axonal sheer injury, where there is no visible injury but the brain tissue is torqued inside the brian and swelling happens without bleeding.

The latter two may not require an operation because there is nothing to fix; the treatment is trying to control swelling and pressure within the skull.

Wow. Have you ever had something like this happen with a patient? Any positive outcomes?


Is there a genetic predisposition for... severe complications from brain injury?

Oversimplifying the question, but if somebody "bruises easily," could that apply to the brain as well?